Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

[KatieSmiles]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

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[RudyB]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

oh golly, beatle, no! i was not at all implicating you! i thought your post was magically neutral, and a balm amidst this wounding. i am sorry if you took it as a sidelong slap.

uk, i think your posts have been diplomatic as well. i was not pointing a finger at you, not a single one! i know that your situation here has been contentious at times, but i have never felt you to be out of line. no, it is not so. and i hope you haven't deleted your posts...

i was thrilled to read, beatle, your post in which you said that you find this a nice place to visit. i hope you continue to find it so. so, folks, shall we make a go at that? keeping it safe? (read the threads you enjoy and benefit from, that's what i mean to say between the lines, in addition to the direct statements) i, myself, depend on this place to air my life (as those of you who read my thread well know). i have NEVER felt persecuted here, and it's not because i'm in with the in crowd, or because i don't say what i truly feel. as i've said before, when i've had issue with a post, i address it directly and immediately. with murph, i have always always always found him to find the err in his way and step down. once or twice I was in the wrong.

i'm still so sad that it has come to this.

yours in striving for the greater good for us all.
rudy

[Slipstream]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

Long time lurker jumping in here. Against better judgement, to be honest.

What happened on this thread yesterday is a shame. A shame that things got so heated that nobody seemed to think first before posting. A shame that nobody said sorry. Or got the opportunity to say sorry . A shame that people jumped in with some really nasty 2 cents worth. A shame that there?s an air of justification about the whole sorry episode today. A shame that while all this hoohaa was going on, a thread called ?Feel like Killing Myself? languished unanswered in the Need Help ASAP forum between General Discussion and Meds.

Humour is a very individual thing. What?s funny to one person may not be funny to another. Did I find Murphy?s posts funny? Not especially sometimes. Very funny other times. But what I did see was helpful practical advice to people taking Baclofen as well as sharing his own experience.

Did I find the ?drive by thread jacking? of Dr A?s thread funny? No, I didn?t. Baclofen has saved my life. Maybe that?s why I didn?t find it funny but other people found the ?drive by thread jacking? funny. Doesn?t mean I?m right and they?re all wrong. Humour is a very individual thing.

Then there?s the Laughing Out Loud forum. A lot of posts there don?t tick all the politically correct boxes. This one doesn?t do it for me:


Race, religion, gender - take your pick. Or the fact that any joke needing the c word as a punchline generally isn?t funny. To me. But humour is a very individual thing.

To the Bacsters out there: hang in there and keep chipping away. Baclofen works. Honest.

To Everyone: we?re all in the same boat, trying to do the best we can with our crappy alcoholic lot in life. Be nice!

[Slipstream]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

Newbie. Seems I can't link until I've 2 posts. And I don't know how to quote. Aaagh!
I've just bumped the not so funny (IMHO) joke in the laughing out loud forum.

[KatieSmiles]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

Slipstream,

There will always be differences of opinion on what happened. It's done and it's time to let it go.

[RudyB]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

oh my goodness, slipstream! yours is my favorite post in a very long time.

thank you for chiming in, we need the likes of you. 'a shame that nobody said sorry.' a poignant quote.

and i am so terribly alarmed about the thread 'feel like killing myself' languishing in between these war zones! how did it never occur to me to check in there??!! i suddenly for a moment feel like a huge hypocrate, but now i realize once again that sometimes the obvious is not readily apparent.

[Lo0p]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

RudyB;1184199 wrote: hypocrate

Totally off topic but...oooh...gotcha! :H

It's spelled: hypocrite

I'm still glad we've got someone like you teaching our youth. You pass my litmus test 10 times over (5 of them are cuz I luv you :l). But I'll be damned if this isn't a double whammy! Once, because of how nazi-ish you are about spelling and grammar and twice because it's on the word hypocrite! Tooo funnaaay!!!

[LadyLush]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

Murphyx;1182901 wrote: Fuck this for a laugh, I'm outa here. I'll be back when the drama queens and poisoned dwarfs toddle off.

L8R!

Sorry, to everyone. When I said "leave" it was in reponse to this for your sake Murphy. In order to let it die. I am sorry for my contribution and I never wanted you to leave.

What a damn mess!

LL

[RudyB]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

oh god, lady, i am so glad you posted this! i was gonna pm you w my query, cause i didn't understand that post one bit. it was totally out of characeter - yours and the nature of your love of murph. sheesh louis, another big PHEW! glad to have you back and brinking clarity once again.

loOp! omg you're soooo on the money! hilarious! my mom always points out when i spell things wrong, and that's often! i ain't the world;s greatest speller. (and as we know, i can't type for shit.) just today, funny, i was talking w my students about spelling. i asked them, on a scale of one to ten, how important it was to be able to spell correctly new spanish words. most tried to win my favor and said ten or eight. one said five. (mind you, and to give you a sample of how AMAZING is my year, there are FOUR students in this class, the last of the day. like a prayer-of-a-finish to seven well-payed hours.) i went with the kid who said five. even though, i qualified, spanish is beautiful partly because it is reliably phonetic (except that h's are slient, and a few other minor things). but if you can say it, and you understand your own spelling of it, that counts the most. how many of us, really, are going to go out and start writing in spanish? rather, we should be speaking it, in order to communicate, which is the root purpose of language, no? (in fact, i had a fun banter w the superintendent today -is it '-dant', loOp?- about just that outmoded model fo teaching via the grammar method of learning a language. how learning how to speak in another tongue, durr, involves most of all the ability to PRONOUNCE things.) who cares how you spell it??!! really.

[LadyLush]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

Rudy,

With that don't you think phonics should be spelled 'fonics'?

Just sayin'

This whole mess makes me sad. It was like a bar room brawl and I was asking him to allow us to clear it. But I got hit with a bar stool or something and it went awry!
So sorry to everyone.

Thanks Rudy for responding:l

lots of love here for you!

LL

[RudyB]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

i've been talking w my romanian friend and his deep soul about what's going on here at mwo's meds section.

england is known for its stiff, prudent way of going about things. naturally, a reaction to that, in the deepest ways -not least of all style of humour- would be to push back w totally unacceptable ways of addressing even the most banal of things. you see this in all kinds of cultural output from that empire. think mr bean, the black adder, the goodies, benny hill. good golly folks, catch up on your cultural anthropology! of course a lowly guy from wales (murph) would make all kindsa jokes in honor of the great almighty royalty that governs the everything of that narrow and tight-ass culture. durrr!

as an alcoholic, one is used to hiding, to shrouding all those undesirable characteristics we unintentionally expose when drinking problematically. when one gets sober, how liberating is it, be honest, to just let it all hang loose, and say whatever shit occurrs in the moment it does so, especially if you're in a dominant culture that forbids specifically that.

what irks me most about all this nonsense is that i see people have literally picked up the thread of the conversation mid-sentence and run in a completely missing-the-point direction, to the effect that we've killed a greater purpose. irony is lost. nuance, which is so difficult to attain in cybertext to begin with, don't exist cause folk are taking words and twisting them into new forms of long-skinny-balloon figures, not knowing the absurdity they unintentionally create. not seeing it for what it is because 'fore they know it someone has gone and gotten offended by their impulsivity and reacted. dared to write something in response. and so the story goes, on and on, winding its way into a deep, dark black hole.

que lastima.

[RudyB]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

spanish word of the day: torcido. twisted. como un arbol torcido es esta tela. que lastima.

what a shame.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACPn4AERwno[/video]]*Para Shonie* - Arbol Torcido - Macaco - YouTube

listen and interpret. please take the time to deepen on the words herein, instead of wasing time and energy and recources of mutual suport. but of course, if you don't understand spanish, ummm, i'll send something in english soon enough, 'kay?

give thanks for what works.

[Slipstream]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

The Hippocratic oath - first, do no harm - wouldn't have gone astray yesterday either.

Here's the joke I didn't find funny on the Laughing Out Loud forum. But humour is an individual thing.

Panno;1134987 wrote: A nun is sitting on a train opposite an aboriginal man who is eating a bag of prawns. Every time he eats one he spits the head at her and she throws it out the window.
Eventually she gets pissed off and pulls the emergency cord.
The aboriginal man looks at her and says " You'll get fined $50 for doing that you stupid slut". She laughs back and says " when I cry out rape and they smell your fingers you'll get 10 years you cunt".
Zenstyle;1134999 wrote: OMG!!! :H

[Greg]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

Isn't all this arguing exactly what we have to expect, from time to time, on a forum for alcoholics? This is how I, and every other alcoholic I have ever known, has behaved at certain times.

I don't know exactly who said what, who started it, or whatever, and don't have time to read it all now to find out. I'm only posting to say that Murphy was a great help to me by pointing out some pretty stuffed-up thinking on my part, such as when I thought I had cured myself of addiction by smoking marijuana in place of drinking alcohol! He was pretty tough and straight to the point about that, but he was also not offensive or rude about it, and it was something I needed to hear.

Personally I found Murphy's sense of humour always gave me a laugh, but I also know some people take offence to things that wouldn't worry others, and humour also doesn't always translate too well in writing. I simply don't know enough about what was said between people here to give an opinion, other than to say that Murph's type of humour (the parts of it I have seen) is very similar to the way my friends and I often talk to each other when we are poking fun at each other. People sometimes think we are being rude to each other when that is not the intention at all. Maybe it's part of the Aussie sense of humour, I don't know, but the British also have a similar sense of humour.

Regardless of who was at fault, I hope to see Murphy around here in future, because he contributed a lot to the forum and was genuine in his desire to fight alcohol dependence. That's what the forum is all about.

[Crunchy]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

Not the same thing at all.

That joke was posted alone. It was directed at no one. If that joke had been posted as a response to a nun or an aboriginal man who posted here, it would immediately stop being funny. It would be debasing, insulting, ugly, nasty and cruel.

All this crap about humor being in the eye of the beholder is complete garbage since the butt of the nasty "jokes" were fellow members of My Way Out. That makes them not jokes at all no matter how many winky faces and smiley faces were used. It makes them debasing, insulting, ugly, nasty, cruel remarks. The difference is as plain as day.