Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

[coalfire]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

Hi Murphy. You have probably posted this somewhere else and I missed it but what is your relationship with alcohol post Baclofen? I see your signature saying normal relationship but do you set rules for yourself as well eg 1 with a meal/at night etc etc or can you really just drink what you want when you want with no consequences?

[Murphyx]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

Funny you should ask CF, I've been thinking about this today and I don't think 'normal' is quite accurate. Normal people get drunk and enjoy doing it. The only time I've been drunk since switching is when I titrated down too fast and I really didn't enjoy it.

I don't set a limit and I don't think about drinking, except maybe a fleeting thought when I encounter an old drinking situation. The only time I drink is when preparing dinner. It's not every time and it's not always a whole drink. The habit of having a glass when cooking is very strong with me. I could break it I suppose, but I don't see the point, so sometimes I have a drink. I don't have two because I don't want two.

If I did want 2 I would do so and if the situation arises where I fancy getting lashed up, then I'll go along with it. I can't see it happening but if it does it's not a problem. I'm not afraid of it happening and I don't feel the need to worry about it.

I think the 'normal' relationship means I neither long for it, nor am I scared of it. Alcohol is just that thing that used to be important but isn't now.

[LadyLush]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

Bleep,

A Chameleon right????

Lady

[coalfire]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

Thats flipping amazing. Deep down I want a drug where I can get pissed on a Saturday night with no consequences....which means I will be a long time waiting. I know in my heart that I do not want a drug that allows me to have a glass when cooking.It would be interesting to see what Baclofen would do if you said f**k it I am going out to get drunk tonight but I can understand why you would not want to destabilise your life by trying it. Are you curious?

[Guest]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

Coalfire that's a very interesting post - but what exactly do you mean by "consequences"? The reason I ask is that when a person is drunk, consequences often come about because that person is drunk. Things like getting into cars and driving under the influence, waking up in bed with people you don't know, sending daft or abusive emails, drunk dialling, getting into fights. spending more than you meant to. All consequences of being drunk that even normal drinkers might get after getting drunk.

I'm not sure any drug can acheive that.

[coalfire]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

Yes I think it is true that even normies have a story up their sleeves about the night they did such and such stupid thing. They do,I see it in every normie I know. However Its not every night they drink. If I drink in a pub I MUST come home and drink afterwards. MUST MUST MUST. Thats one of the things I mean about consequences. I will black out. On a good night it will be a brown out. Thats not a normal week in week out experience for a normie. Yeah they might have problems remembering the taxi ride home but generally they do not forget 70/80/90% of the night week in week out. From my own observations ,their loss of control is more sporadic and not a complete process. Mine is absolute. Thats the type of thing I mean about consequences. I doubt any drugs ability to stop that process occurring in me after 4-5 drinks and I was just curious about Murphys views on the subject ie what would happen if you decided to get drunk on Baclofen.

[coalfire]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

If someone was experiencing all 6 of the behaviours you listed(or less) regularly I wouldnt see them as a normie. 1 or 2 now and again...yeah maybe.

[Road to Recovery]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

coalfire;1097547 wrote: If someone was experiencing all 6 of the behaviours you listed(or less) regularly I wouldnt see them as a normie. 1 or 2 now and again...yeah maybe.

Coal,
I sent you a PM

[bleep]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

Hey all,

Yup, it's a chameleon. It took me a while before I noticed it changes colour, I also thought I was going mad.

Angel, this is one of the best threads on the boards. Murph has kept it funny throughout, despite some SE's, but I think Murph will even have a funny funeral. Glad you have found it, and also that it's going well for you. Don't be alarmed by the SE's - just state what's happening, and chances are someone has had it before.

I think my drinking is probably quite similar to Murph's. although it's taken me longer to work it out. I like a glass of wine when I get home from work, a big habit from the past. It is a great way to relax and forget the day, out in the garden. I often don't finish it these days, and very seldom have another. Occasionally a night out turns larger than expected, but not like before, where it would be me at home, alone, getting hammered. Now there must be an occasion, and most occasions are not worth it. In the beginning I thought this meant failure and doom, but it's happened about 3 times, and each time has been fine once I have thought about it. Murph, you've actually helped quite a bit in this respect, so thanks.

With each one, I realise more and more how much I now dislike being drunk.

[spacebebe01]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

WOW Bleep I have never noticed your colour changing lizard before, cool. i am glad that I'm too scared right now to have a drink, I just cant take that chance I stopped going out drinking years ago because my drinking had got way too out of control and it was just too dangerous for me to do, although I did take to running off and drinking in the woods so I could drink in peace without my family trying to stop me and I suppose that was pretty dangerous especially when I passed out there. Thats why I am so happy and relieved to have found baclofen and all you peeps out there, at last I honestly believe I can have a good life with my kids and not be scared of dying and leaving them any time soon (I hope) which was a constant worry for all of us.
Thanks everyone

[coalfire]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

Did you meet any teddy bears having their picnic ?:H

[LadyLush]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

Hi all,

Teddy Bears on their picnic...:H
Bebe, I use to pass out all the time outside in the field behind my house in a lawn chair. I woke up one time to find an armadillo drinking my wine!
I SWEAR, here in Texas you will see anything. Was I scared? What? The thief was drinking my wine! I chased the little varmint till he ran under a barbed wired fence.
And Angelseyes, this is a laid back thread; safe for the whole family...


Lady

[coalfire]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

LadyLush;1097578 wrote: Hi all,

. I woke up one time to find an armadillo drinking my wine!

Lady

You have no idea how exotic that sounds reading this in Ireland. I woke up to find a sheep drinking my wine would not sound half as interesting:H

[Murphyx]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

coalfire;1097581 wrote: You have no idea how exotic that sounds reading this in Ireland. I woke up to find a sheep drinking my wine would not sound half as interesting:H

In Wales, a drunk sheep would be in for a world of trouble.

[Murphyx]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

coalfire;1097535 wrote: It would be interesting to see what Baclofen would do if you said f**k it I am going out to get drunk tonight but I can understand why you would not want to destabilise your life by trying it. Are you curious?

I got pissed when I titrated down too fast and it wasn't pleasant, it just seemed necessary. It's not a matter of worrying what will happen if I do it again, I just have no desire to do it. It's no longer a fun thing to do.

I think you may be looking at this thing the wrong way round. People who try low dose baclofen and find that it reduces their desire for booze have the same idea. They think now they have a chance to tackle their drinking and they use a bunch of tools (am I the only one who thinks that term is way too penis-centric?) to keep them off it. But they will always remain alcoholics, just alcoholics in remission, so they fear alcohol and are determined never to touch the stuff again believing it will lead them back to their old ways. And they're probably correct, so they should definitely never try. But for people who have reached the switch, and I am talking about high dose bac not low dose 80mg, and have stayed at their maintenance dose, the desire for drunkenness disappears.

As I say, it might happen, if it does I doubt it will be terribly pleasant, but I know it won't lead to alcoholism because of the real switch.

Anyway CF, where you been lately? Not seen you around much. I miss your hilarious, yet tame limericks. :H