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    Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

    hiya murph!

    i agree w you on lushy's avatar! it's great. where do you people find these things? i can't even manage my email, let alone find a new creative avatar or decorate tombstones.

    coka-cola has many uses. they say it can be used to clean up blood on a highway, among other things including dissolve a tooth in a glass within days. keep pourin' it down, folks! it's better than vodka!

    i ditto everything on isolde's post. especially the part about coconut oil. great stuff! (see anything by sally fallon, my diet guru, not that i have any gurus...).

    and our bodies do tell us what they need, indeed. take this example, which just came up today with my family, in exactly those words: my 4 yr old nephew was out with his mom for ice cream. he had his fill. they went home and he gobbled carrots. for many of us adults, carrots after ice cream is unthinkable. for a child still in touch with his body, the understanding was clear: 'i need vegetables', or somesuch. indeed, we can re-attune ourselves to what our bodies need if we so choose.

    fats don't make us fat. nope. (who said that?) no, murphy, it's not OBVIOUS! fats DON"T make us fat. they help us know when we're full. and if we eat good quality fats (such as from grass-raised animals in their natural environment, a la sally fallon again), we'll be healthy, simple as that (of course, so long as we couple it with a whole bunch of other basic natural things, like eating what isn't processed, for example, a la Isolde).

    the thing i've heard is: eat what you could make in your own kitchen (maybe w some initial cooking lessons, ha ha). don't eat things whose ingredients you can't even say. and definitely no trans fats (hydrogentated anything: probably rancid, and definitely hard on the heart and undigestible).

    a colleague recently told me, in the rules of weight watchers: "fruit is free". i guess she meant it's free calories, you don't have to count it. i can see how that might be true for fresh fruit, but not for dried. as the good people say: candy.

    pony, you are hilarious! was fucking laughing my ass off here, yes indeedee! and does it take you much time to find the perfect picture to go with your words? i'm truly impressed.

    ok, so murphy, i'm off to garden, with trowel cause i found one at marshall's (local dept store that is full of great shit, from bikinis to gardening essentials). pony would be happy for me. (by the way, pony, did you ever finish your gazebo?)

    enough for now. keep on with your candor, all! LOVE IT!!!!!!

    go on with your fine selves! :h
    xoxo rudyb

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      The whole vegetarian thing irritates me. A lot of the vegetarians I know all have a slightly superior air, as if they have they have somehow made a better moral choice (obviously not everyone!). I don't believe this to be the case, and indeed feel sorry for people who have forsaken the joys of a beautifully prepared fillet, for example.

      It's an issue I actually feel fairly strongly about, but I want to go to bed, so I'll throw more arguments toward it tomorrow if it looks like it is necessary.

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        terryk;1121341 wrote: Vegan "Cheesy" Foods: Cosmo's Vegan Shoppe
        Thanks Terry, all the vegan cheeses I tried before tasted like a dog's arse and believe me when I say, unfortunately I know exactly what a dog's arse tastes like. Veggie ham (sham), veggie chicken (mockle-doodle-doo), veggie bacon (fake-on) no problem, but vegan cheese? I'd rather eat kale crisps. But I'll take a look at that one.

        LadyLush;1121342 wrote: Oh, I know I need to research your diet program; Promise I will when I get back!Lady, I've seen your pics remember, you don't need to diet, you're hot baby! Have fun on the gulf. And sober is a beautiful thing isn't it?

        bleep;1121510 wrote: so I've decided on Monday to go to gym for the first time in my life. Good luck with that Bleep. Personally, I don't think it would be sensible for me to go to a gym at the moment. I'm all bac-loved up and I don't think I could trust myself being in close proximity to all that sweaty, scantilly clad totty at the moment. :h

        Ne/Neva Eva;1121604 wrote: speaking of which, please tell me that's really your car? Oh yes. If I was capable of embarrassment, which as of last Saturday I?m not (as you well know ) I might be embarrassed to admit it.

        Ne/Neva Eva;1121604 wrote: You're worried about ME turning you into a candy-ass girly-boy and you drive a VW with flowers on it??? You better be a big, bald, welshman with a swagger. I'm so incredibly thrilled at the idea, I can't even explain it. Maybe beat up old VWs do for me what tiny little hot rods do for other chicks? There?s nothing tiny about this Welsh-boy!

        Ne/Neva Eva;1121604 wrote: Tell me it runs on bio-fuel. Ahhhh, that is my greatest carbon-guilt. Sadly no. I?m actually going to sell it soon and buy something more sensible and environmentally friendly because of that. Whatever I buy, I?ll probably paint flowers on the side.

        Ne/Neva Eva;1121604 wrote:
        SO. What's the story, funny boy? No introspection needed, ftr. Posterity awaits, however.
        Yep, there?s a story and I?ll tell it soon. I?m just waiting for ? I dunno ? something to make it all clear. I can?t tell a story I don?t fully understand myself.

        Ne/Neva Eva;1121604 wrote:
        And if I eat tofu will my boobs start getting bigger rather than smaller???
        Ne, you need to send me a pic of your boobs, before I can advise you on that score.

        redhead77;1121803 wrote:
        I have no issues with killing animals for food, but I prefer to eat animals who have lived in their natural state. You know, free range and happy animals.
        Oh sure, all animals are happy to toddle off to the abattoir. Sorry, but, you know?


        redhead77;1121803 wrote:
        Lay off the high glycemic dried fruits and other stuff (imo).
        Yep, you?re right. Will do.

        redhead77;1121803 wrote:
        Protein drinks if made by you, with whey protein, are an excellent way to help combat insulin resistance and or metabolic syndrome. Whey protein is made from dairy, so I don't know if you are a vegan, or just a veggie. It is tolerated by most who don't tolerate dairy, though. Just some thoughts my friend.
        Why does everyone keep banging on about protein drinks? I don?t and never have used protein drinks, with whey or anything else in them.

        RudyB;1121323 wrote:
        i guess i assumed mycoprotein was a protein drink. tell me, please, what it is...
        Mycoprotein comes from a type of fungi and is the main ingredient in some meat replacement products (do you get Quorn in America?). It's low in fat, low calorie, zero cholestorol, zero tans fat, is high in dietary fibre and all the essential amino acids.

        The unexamined life is not worth living

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          bleep;1121845 wrote: The whole vegetarian thing irritates me. A lot of the vegetarians I know all have a slightly superior air, as if they have they have somehow made a better moral choice (obviously not everyone!). I don't believe this to be the case, and indeed feel sorry for people who have forsaken the joys of a beautifully prepared fillet, for example.

          It's an issue I actually feel fairly strongly about, but I want to go to bed, so I'll throw more arguments toward it tomorrow if it looks like it is necessary.
          Bleep, do me a favour and don't do it here. The whole "veggies think they're superior" shit gets right on my tits. You stick to your animal flesh, don't try to hoist it on the rest of us.

          Sorry to sound harsh, but just don't fucking start or it's going to kick off.

          Luvya though!

          The unexamined life is not worth living

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            Murphyx;1121850 wrote: Bleep, do me a favour and don't do it here. The whole "veggies think they're superior" shit gets right on my tits. You stick to your animal flesh, don't try to hoist it on the rest of us.

            Sorry to sound harsh, but just don't fucking start or it's going to kick off.

            Luvya though!
            No worries.

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              Murphyx;1121848 wrote: Thanks Terry, all the vegan cheeses I tried before tasted like a dog's arse and believe me when I say, unfortunately I know exactly what a dog's arse tastes like. Veggie ham (sham), veggie chicken (mockle-doodle-doo), veggie bacon (fake-on) no problem, but vegan cheese? I'd rather eat kale crisps. But I'll take a look at that one.
              I'm right with you on knowing what a dog's arse tastes like from eating all of the other vegan cheese out there, but this one is different. Someone has sold their soul to Beelzebub for this, it is so fucking good. Only comes in shreds though, and you have to melt in on pizza or nachos or burgers or chips for it to work, but it melts just like real cheese.

              -tk
              TerryK celebrates 6 years of sobriety and indifference to alcohol thanks to baclofen

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                RudyB;1121268 wrote: (btw, LoOp, you might be flattered (should) that i bother to capitalize that second 'O' - though i bet you don't care. guess i like you okay.)
                I'm not just flattered, I feel like you just gave me the sincerest form of compliment you possibly could! I am beside myself with gratitude!!! :l


                ...


                You didn't have to though: the second "0" is actually a zero. :H

                terryk;1121338 wrote:
                Hey Murph, I've been vegan since the 90's. I've always had a problem keeping the pounds off and find the *only* way for me to stay lean(er) is to cut out the starchy carbs. No pasta, bread, rice, etc. I eat lots of tofu, tempeh (soy) and homemade seitan (gluten/wheat meat), beans, nuts, and mushrooms plus all of the other vegetables I want. I agree that dried fruit is basically candy, and would recommend no fruit other than tomatoes and avocados until you get your weight under control. I know that lo0p won't believe me, but I can do a vegan ketogenic (atkin's) diet that will let me lose .5 to 1lb of fat per day. I gained 40 lbs during my titration due the baclofen side effect that made me still hungry even after stuffing my face (l-glutamine was not a help for me). I've lost about 35lbs since my switch and have had luck keeping it off by leaving out the carbs. It's the carbs that make me fat, not the olive/canola/flax/avocado/macadamia oil that I put liberally on everything else -tk

                p.s. I eat a lot of soy and it's never been a problem for me, almost 20 years of tofu (I was vegetarian before vegan) and there's no bitch tits on me.
                You're selling me a little short there. But (big one :moon, I do definitely have some things to say about it. I'm off to work today though so maaaaybe tomorrow. I'll try not to make it sting too much. :H

                I'm actually interested in this mycoprotein stuff for some friends and fam who are vegheads. I don't think it's enough
                of a substitute (or more specifically, as a single source I don't think it's varied enough), but it's better than anything else I've seen so far. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
                :nutso: I take pride in my humility :nutso:
                :what?:
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                  bleep;1121845 wrote: The whole vegetarian thing irritates me. A lot of the vegetarians I know all have a slightly superior air, as if they have they have somehow made a better moral choice (obviously not everyone!). I don't believe this to be the case, and indeed feel sorry for people who have forsaken the joys of a beautifully prepared fillet, for example.

                  It's an issue I actually feel fairly strongly about, but I want to go to bed, so I'll throw more arguments toward it tomorrow if it looks like it is necessary.
                  I have no quarrel with you, good sir bleep. I'm not trying to be judgmental, and I really don't think that MWO is the best place to debate individual politics. I almost went back and deleted what I wrote, but didn't find anything too offensive when I re-read it, so I let it stay. I just wanted to stick up for Murph a bit; I haven't had a chance to talk on his thread too much until now, so there it is.

                  -tk
                  TerryK celebrates 6 years of sobriety and indifference to alcohol thanks to baclofen

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                    Oh and...are you a reader of Lyle McDonald's stuff?
                    :nutso: I take pride in my humility :nutso:
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                      Lo0p;1121866 wrote: I'll try not to make it sting too much.
                      Sorry for the short sell, BUT :moon: I welcome you to bring it on (at your leisure).

                      -tk
                      TerryK celebrates 6 years of sobriety and indifference to alcohol thanks to baclofen

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                        murphy: ne's bobs are beautiful! (sorry, ne, hope you don't mind...)

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                          RudyB;1121879 wrote: ne: ne's bobs are beautiful! (sorry, ne, hope you don't mind...)
                          : and

                          The unexamined life is not worth living

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                            right, quorn! of course. now it all seems obvious. don't know why i assumed mycowhatveer was a protein drink. durr. yes, muirph, we get that stuff here in the us. it's awesome! keep eating it. you have my approval. tee hee.

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                              murphy, see your post #745 to explain why i'm saying ne has beautiful boobs. you said you needed to see them before something, i don't remember. and i don't know how to quote right now. pm me if you need further explanation. i don't want to embarass myself here.

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                                oh yeah, and, i meant to say 'murph:' not 'ne:'. i think i edited it since you read it and got confused. maybe that explains this very important problem. insert laughing emoitcon.

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