Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

[Murphyx]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

Thanks Lush.

Yeah the antique shop, the things we do when we're rat-arsed. Not good.

BTW in the UK Lush also means good looking, as in "Oooo check out that bird with the enormous jugs. If she asked me nicely, I might just let her. She's well lush!"
Not that I would ever use such derogatory terms to describe totty...errr I mean women.

[Murphyx]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

I'm more than a little reluctant to post this because I just know that someone will jump on it to further their apparent anti-bac campaign, but sod it, here goes anyway:

I'm a trifle concerned. I'm still drinking. Only 1, or at most 2, bottles of beer per day, which is obviously ridiculously low compared with previously and within the 'safe' drinking limits, but I still feel the need to do it. The odd thing is it's only when I'm cooking. I do all the cooking in our house because Mrs Murph is out from 7am to 7pm, so it's not as though I can break this routine. Whenever I'm in the kitchen I feel compelled to open a beer. As soon as I leave the kitchen I have absolutely no desire to drink, but I go back in and I must drink. WTF

I can't not do the cooking for 2 reasons: 1) My wife is the world's worst cook, even if she claims otherwise. Seriously, she could burn a boiled egg. 2) If I suggested she should take over cooking duties when she gets home, she would most likely beat the living crap out of me (I'm a big, hairy-arsed, rugby player type of a bloke, but she's spookilly strong when riled:H), because I really don't pull my weight as far as domestic chores go. Heh, I'm a man I can't help it, it's just the way we are. DON'T JUDGE ME!!!

I've tried changing the dosage schedule so more bac is in my system to coincide with preparing the evening meal and I've tried upping the dose (I've gone up from 150mg to 200mg for the last 3 days) but it hasn't made any difference. Should I keep upping the dose until I hit another level of switch or is this routine just so deeply ingrained that it'll always be there?

I know it's not a dangerous level of drinking and I have absolutely no desire to get pissed, but it means I'm not entirely free of the beast's clutches.

What to do?

[bleep]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

I wouldn't panic Murph, just have beer while you cook. If it really means a lot to you, maybe try those low-alcohol beers?

Is it not habit playing a role, as well? I know I don't feel complete if I cook without a glass of wine. Maybe if you force it once or twice you can break the association?

[Isolde]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

Murph, I think bleep is right. It's a habit. I know because I had the same one! I did a lot of cooking too, and enjoyed it! But also would either have a glass of wine (or a beer, or a cocktail!) while cooking. That was part of the enjoyment. There were a lot of other habits that I associated with having a drink as well, but let's just leave it at cooking for now! So I tried substitution and found it helpful.
It might be worth a shot. Find something else that you really like the taste of. I used to have vodka tonics a lot, so I started subbing tonic water with a lime wedge and it was damn tasty and really hit the spot. And then I tried flavored waters with fruit juice, also really good if you find the right combo.
This may or may not help, but couldn't hurt to try! Eventually with bac, I didn't need to do the subbing anymore, there was no associaton with the habit and needing to drink something.

Otherwise, I'm with bleep again (logical guy, that one!) - just have the beer while you cook and don't stress about it. Maybe try a non-AL beer, supposedly there are actually some good ones out there and see how that goes.

Either way, excellent progress! :goodjob: Be proud of yourself for that and don't fret too much about the one beer while cooking.

[Lo0p]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

Firstly, bleep and Is are right...think about if you are comfortable with it or not. If you are then who cares? You? Certainly not then right? :H

If you either aren't entirely comfortable with it, or just "want to know what it's like to laugh at the fact that you used to drink one or two beers cooking" then I'll say this: Two things affect that. One, dose and two, time at a certain dose. At 200 you might still be doing it, but at 210 you might not. Or At 200 you might still be grabbing for that brew but on the fourth day and ever after at 200 you might not.

Murphyx;1061754 wrote:
I can't not do the cooking for 2 reasons: 1) My wife is the world's worst cook, even if she claims otherwise. Seriously, she could burn a boiled egg. 2) If I suggested she should take over cooking duties when she gets home, she would most likely beat the living crap out of me (I'm a big, hairy-arsed, rugby player type of a bloke, but she's spookilly strong when riled:H), because I really don't pull my weight as far as domestic chores go. Heh, I'm a man I can't help it, it's just the way we are. DON'T JUDGE ME!!!:H

Murphyx;1061754 wrote: or is this routine just so deeply ingrained that it'll always be there?

Categorically NO. No situation involving putting alcohol in your mouth is more powerful than baclofen.

Murphyx;1061754 wrote: What to do?

If you want it, go get it.

[LadyLush]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

Murph,

That is true too

I do have a question for all. We (or I) believe Baclofen is the "cure" for alcoholism. A person that is not an alcoholic can have one or two without drinking the whole damn case. When I drank it was for the drunk, all or none. Is 2 not okay? I personally am going AF, but I want to know that someday 1 beer at a party in my hand will be enough. I mean, I don't ever want to get drunk again. Does that make sense? or am I totally wrong?

Thanks,
Lady

[Murphyx]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

Alright guys, thanks for your comments and suggestions. I know one or two beers by themselves aren't important, but it's partly the principle of not being in complete control of this thing and partly the fear that one beer turns into 2, 2 turn into 3 and 3 turns into a full on slide into drunken crazyness again. If I'm not in control of it, then it's in control of me.

LadyLush;1061869 wrote:

I do have a question for all. We (or I) believe Baclofen is the "cure" for alcoholism. A person that is not an alcoholic can have one or two without drinking the whole damn case. When I drank it was for the drunk, all or none. Is 2 not okay? I personally am going AF, but I want to know that someday 1 beer at a party in my hand will be enough. I mean, I don't ever want to get drunk again. Does that make sense? or am I totally wrong?

Thanks,
Lady

No Lush, you're right, you're aiming to become normal. A normal person can have a drink when they choose to, or not. Baclofen does do that, it repairs the changes the illness creates.

In my case I think the issue is something other than the illness. I think it's habit. A compulsion caused by habit rather than alcoholic craving.

Cue the self-obsessed rant: If I was the sort of person who was comfortable seeking help from others, then I might go and talk to a psychiatrist/psychologist or whatever and maybe sort it out that way. Maybe there is something in what these addiction specialists say when they talk about a chemical input only being part of the solution and therapy being necessary as well. After all, we mostly all have additional issues that need to be addressed don't we? I know I do. I've been on and off anti-depressants for the last 10 years. All of which I've bought online 'cos there's no way in hell I'd go tell a quack I need help. Where I come from, unless you're in imminent danger of dying, or at the very least a large part of you has just dropped off, you grin and bear it:H. So, I'll try to break the habit, by forcing myself to not drink while cooking. It sounds so ridiculous when I read that back; how can anyone not be able to do that? LOL. But I'm not so good at self-control, especially if it's in order to help myself. So if that doesn't work I'll try upping the dose again and see what happens. Maybe I'll just get such crappy side effects from drinking on a higher dose that I won't be able to keep it up. And the habit will be broken that way...tada!!!! Self-obsessed rant over.

Anyway, last night I woke up with my labrador pup lying on my face with his nuts dangerously close to my mouth. Was he trying to get me to teabag him? So I kicked him off the bed and then my border collie pup got up. I woke up shortly afterwards and the collie had his tongue in my ear.

I think my dogs are gay.

[Bruunhilde]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

They don't seem to be gay with each other, just you? You may be sending the wrong kind of message, Murph, if that's not your style. Very funny, thank you!

[LadyLush]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

You are killing me!

I adopt dogs and they are gay, incest, whatever it takes the to get the job done . :-)
Yes, wine again, but I am taking my pills and it all will be right with the world. Texas is warm tonight and all is well. I only drank 2 small bottles tonight (of a 4 pack ya'll) and the norm would be at least 2 bottles (big) or more! I need to post my story and will do that probably by the weekend..
Peace all and please keep me laughing; it keeps me coming back.


Thanks to all of you "Bac-o-Rats"!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lady

[LadyLush]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

To all,

Just for the record I posted earlier I am going AF,... well I am trying, that is why I chose Baclofen. I want to hold a drink but I want to control it over not controlling me. I want to dump it and not get the vacuum to suck up the residue :-)
I Tit up tomorrow.


Thanks everyone,
Lady

[bleep]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

Had a good laugh at the dogs, and Bruun's reply!

Lady, that's exactly what baclofen does, you are in the right place.

Murph, my recent little adventure has made me realise that any increase takes a good 4 or 5 days to actually work its way into your system, despite feeling SE's straight away, so maybe that's why you aren't seeing the result of bumping up your dose yet?

[Longshot]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

LadyLush;1062083 wrote: You are killing me!

I adopt dogs and they are gay, incest, whatever it takes the to get the job done . :-)
Yes, wine again, but I am taking my pills and it all will be right with the world. Texas is warm tonight and all is well. I only drank 2 small bottles tonight (of a 4 pack ya'll) and the norm would be at least 2 bottles (big) or more! I need to post my story and will do that probably by the weekend..
Peace all and please keep me laughing; it keeps me coming back.


Thanks to all of you "Bac-o-Rats"!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lady

Hey LadyL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFhv71dBW4c[/video]]YouTube - Tripawd Toby in the snow

One of my dog's toby first walks in the snow after his leg amputation over a year ago. Less than two weeks later I found myself in hospital with acute liver and kidney failure.

Fuck AA god, My motto is "I want to be the man my dogs think I am"

Does that make sense?

[Murphyx]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

bleep;1062091 wrote: Had a good laugh at the dogs, and Bruun's reply!

Lady, that's exactly what baclofen does, you are in the right place.

Murph, my recent little adventure has made me realise that any increase takes a good 4 or 5 days to actually work its way into your system, despite feeling SE's straight away, so maybe that's why you aren't seeing the result of bumping up your dose yet?

Agreed. I'm going to leave it 2 more days at this dose (that'll make 5) and then up it another 50 for another 5 days and so on.

[Murphyx]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

Bruunhilde;1062027 wrote: They don't seem to be gay with each other, just you? You may be sending the wrong kind of message, Murph
Longshot wrote: My motto is "I want to be the man my dogs think I am"

In light of Bruun's post, I hope to God I never become the man my dog's think I am.

They've started getting frisky with eachother now. Lipsticks out and everything! I think it's time for them to take a visit to the animal hospital and come home slightly lighter.

[LadyLush]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

Longshot,

Yes that makes absolute sense. I love the name of your dog. A friend of mine had to do the same thing but nemed his Tripod. I love the unique spelling of yours!
I hope you are well after the liver and kidney thing. How is that going and you are another Baclofen success right?

Murph,
You frickin' kill me...lipstick?
I read all these posts again and as far as the teabaggin' are you sure you weren't on top?
LMAO

8:00 Central time and have a meeting. Hope I can keep a straight face. I guess I am in the "giddy" stage right now. All I can say is I feel damn good!

Talk to all later