Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

[Murphyx]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

Yesterday I decided, as it was Friday, I'd quaff a few jars so I bought some bottles of my favourite ales. I opened a bottle of Bishop's Finger*, which has always been one of my favourite bottled ales, and poured it out. I got on with the cooking and had a cup of tea. Just as I was about to dish up I realised I hadn't drunk any of the bloody beer and it was going flat. So I had a chug, it tasted great, but that was it. There was no point in drinking the whole thing because I'd tasted it, enjoyed the flavour, but there was no desire to try and get a buzz on.

What a waste of fine ale! :upset:

* When I was a lad the old boys used to call Bishop's Finger, Nun's Delight. I was 17 before I understood the joke.

[bleep]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

Hah. It was bound to happen.

Not sure what Freudian implications there are in giving the finger to the Bishops Finger, I'll leave that to more subtle minds than mine...

Nice one Murph, it was yours for the taking all along, just a question of time.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

Murphyx;1065986 wrote: Red

I believe that if someone is suffering from one or more emotional/psychological problems then alcoholism may just be a symptom of those problems and no matter how much Baclofen they take or for how long, they're going to carry on drinking regardless. I also believe that you need to want to take Bac for it to work.

I didn't respond to this in the moment, because I didn't/don't think you meant to imply that there was something wrong with the people who are having a different experience with bac than you did/are.

That said, there is little correlation between length of titration or number of side effects and an underlying condition or comorbidity.

I say this because I have had extensive psychological testing. I know my IQ and my comorbidities. (there really aren't any--diagnosed with depression and ADHD at age 18. Which is just funny and completely wrong.)
I have also had VERY extensive physical tests over the last year. My baseline is my annual physical last spring before I started taking bac. I've since had A LOT of follow up tests looking for reasons that taking bac was so difficult. An MRI, CAT scan, 4 (!?) full panel blood tests, hormone/thyroid tests. You name it. Not a damn thing wrong with me, except high cholesterol. Which went up when I started taking bac because I stopped taking my cholesterol medication. (Didn't want to chance that it might get in the way of the beloved bac and the opportunity to live the rest of my life sober.)

I know you weren't implying anything. I just wanted to set the record straight, my friend. Look forward to more Murphyx wisdom, which is great! And very, very funny.
:ls

[Murphyx]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

Why would anyone think that statement was aimed at them personally? The quote (taken in isolation unfortunately) is a general reference.

I didn't/don't think you meant to imply that there was something wrong with the people who are having a different experience with bac than you did/are.Yes, of course there can be. For instance Bruun having an underlying condition of hypertension, which was exacerbated by Baclofen is a good example. I'm not suggesting she is to blame, just that she has an underlying condition which makes the Baclofen SEs intolerable.

On the emotional/psychological side, you don't think alcoholism can be a symptom of other issues? Seriously? Again, I'm not saying that is the only reason for a person to become an alcoholic, but IMO it is one.

It wasn't my intention to provide a definitive list of reasons people have SEs, there are, I'm sure lots of them including genetics, titration rates etc.

AND I'M NOT BLAMING ANYONE FOR HAVING SIDE EFFECTS! Sorry to shout but I do seem to need to repeat that.

I know my IQ

Me too. At least I did before the drink started to rot my brain. God alone knows what it's dropped down to. I'm probably approaching average now.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

Thanks, Murph. Nice response, seriously.

Sorry to single you out in my fit of pique.

As to the IQ. omg, I know. :H:H:H Referring to that is one of the things that indicates to me that I'm feeling defensive. I've always fallen bac on that number because I think, "Well, at least I know I'm smarter than you are."
Not so much on this forum, though. It's rather humbling being the dumbass of the group. But at least I feel like I'm part of the group, you know?

xx and oo my friend. Thanks for not telling me to fuck off. I deserved it.

[Murphyx]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

Ne/Neva Eva;1067520 wrote: Thanks for not telling me to fuck off. I deserved it.
Karen/Ne

No you didn't and I'm sorry for my brusque reply. I'm a defensive git sometimes.
:heartsnflowers:

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

ha, me too.
thanks for the flowers!
:blush:
right bac at you!

[Murphyx]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

I've been on 125mg for the last 3 days, down from a high of 200, and will drop down to 100 tomorrow. I intend to keep dropping down every 3 days until I feel the urge to get shit-faced. If that doesn't happen I'll continue down to 0. If it does happen then I'll work my way back up and titrate down again to a safe dose.

So far, no urge to drink. I still have the weird habit thing going on where I have to pour a drink when I'm cooking the evening meal, but I either don't drink it or if I do I enjoy the taste, but the alcohol part of it just doesn't do anything for me. I have absolutely no desire to get rat-arsed and the very idea of drinking for the sake of getting drunk repels me. LOL, how fucked up is that?

I think my eyesight is improving, but I'm not sure. I wonder if the muscle relaxant property of baclofen was working on my eyes and making it more difficult to focus. Is there an ophthalmologist in the house? I suspect I may not actually need the new glasses when they finally arrive.

Except for disrupted sleep, all the SEs are gone, even the good ones sadly. But it's probably just as well, I think I was starting to get carpal tunnel syndrome.

[Topsy-Turvy-Tracy]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

Murphyx;1065986 wrote:
I believe that if someone is suffering from one or more emotional/psychological problems then alcoholism may just be a symptom of those problems and no matter how much Baclofen they take or for how long, they're going to carry on drinking regardless.

I'm not sure they'd carry on drinking regardless, but interesting to think about what happens when the crutch is gone. I've been watching the train wreck that Charlie Sheen has become and am wondering if maybe that's what the guy is really like when he's not self-medicating a serious mental illness.

Kinda scary to think about.

[Seethepony]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

RE Charlie Sheen. I think he's seriously trying to get into the Oxford book of quotations...

Charlie Sheen v Muammar Gaddafi: whose line is it anyway? | World news | guardian.co.uk

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

:H:H:H

I got 4/10, STP. My fave Sheen answer?
"I have defeated this earthworm with my words ? imagine what I would have done with my fire-breathing fists"
Please, tell me it's true.
When're you going to start in with Lindsay? Or is she too pathetic to even make fun of?

[Lo0p]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

Ne/Neva Eva;1068741 wrote: "I have defeated this earthworm with my words ? imagine what I would have done with my fire-breathing fists"

Are you fugging kidding me? I watched that interview, but he said so much crazy shit that I couldn't even single out one line. But I'll remember that one. :H

[Seethepony]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

Making fun?! I am in awe - I think - of Charlie's off-the-railsness. I mean he's pretty eloquent for someone whose clearly lost the plot.
I'm afraid Ms Lohan is someone who I'm only vaguely aware of. I heard something about her getting into trouble for drinking a beer or something. But she can't possibly be in Charlie's league of fucked-upness and she hasn't come up with any good quotes, so I'm sticking with Charlie and Muammar for all my nutty gossip needs...

[Topsy-Turvy-Tracy]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

Lohan isn't interesting. She's not intelligent enough to be interesting. Charlie, OTOH, spits out these linguistic masterpieces off the cuff - and he never seems confused for one second! He totally buys into the rather colorful word salads he spits out, and his very conviction makes it seem like, not only is he making sense, but that's he's right.

Riveting. Disturbing, but riveting. I feel like I'm committing a moral wrong by being so fascinated. He's fucked up, for sure. So why don't I just turn away? I thought the show was kinda stupid, so it's not like I'm a fan or anything.

Now his dad, OTOH . . .

[Seethepony]

Murph’s Baclofen (or should that be BacloFUN) diary

Oh, and ....

Charlie Sheen's two girlfriends: 'We take turns sleeping in the middle' | Mail Online

Ugh! I'm speechless.