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    #31
    Uk and Baclofen

    Wait a sec, ukb.
    I've deleted the post and will not revisit the issue.
    I've got to get to work, too.
    I'll be here when you get back from work, if that's what you decide to do. And I hope you will.
    So will everyone else, and if you'd prefer not to hear from me, we can do that too.

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      #32
      Uk and Baclofen

      I will continue to post links since you've made it clear I must validate everything I say, and I certainly shall.

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        #33
        Uk and Baclofen

        UK, I think backing up a post only really applies to controversial posts. Nobody is doubting the Librium / Booze connection. While a day off is always a treat, I wouldn't go so far as to take one for this reason. Go get a massage or something, don't spend it searching for posts!

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          #34
          Uk and Baclofen

          Bleep

          At the moment I'm having more days off than anything else, and they aren't treats they put my job at risk. I have already said a few times that I cannot work if I drink or am feeling the effects of Bac, or just not feeling right, and I don't get sick or holiday pay(so no income either). Ho hum. A massage?unlikely during an evening shift!

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            #35
            Uk and Baclofen

            Ukblonde;1052220 wrote:
            I think Beatle mentioned having a couple of days AF really helped too, as did Bleep.
            I don't recall saying that. In fact, I felt every bit as crappy during and after my AF days as I did before.

            I started drinking again after my AF days (but at a much reduced level), and after a few days of that, I feel good and the SEs are significantly reduced.

            I think that's where I'm going to be until I hit my switch (although trying to push the drinking down as much as I can, shooting for AF days -- all this not just for the SEs, but also my health and well-being).

            All Dr. L ever said is that drinking less will lower the severity of the SEs. Nothing more nothing less.

            It's all described in my post:

            https://www.mywayout.org/community/f2...r-l-47794.html
            Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life... And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.

            Steve Jobs, Stanford Commencement Adress, 2005

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              #36
              Uk and Baclofen

              Sorry Beatle I've obvious misquoted or misread something againuch:

              Apologies and I have been reading your thread, just shows how little sinks into my thick head.

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                #37
                Uk and Baclofen

                Ukblonde;1052224 wrote: I will continue to post links since you've made it clear I must validate everything I say, and I certainly shall.
                I think you only need to validate your statements and outright advice.

                Personal experiences don't need validation.
                Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life... And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.

                Steve Jobs, Stanford Commencement Adress, 2005

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                  #38
                  Uk and Baclofen

                  Ukblonde;1052273 wrote: Sorry Beatle I've obvious misquoted or misread something againuch:

                  Apologies and I have been reading your thread, just shows how little sinks into my thick head.
                  Understood.
                  Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life... And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.

                  Steve Jobs, Stanford Commencement Adress, 2005

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                    #39
                    Uk and Baclofen

                    Just a thought: Maybe it would pre-empt a lot of the dissent here if you put your statements and questions in context (or qualify them) ... i.e. "I think..." or "In my experience..." or "This is advice based on my own experience and other information I have..."?

                    Then you wouldn't have to do so much validation... and the links could be added information, always of great value here, rather than proof that what you are saying has some base in reality.
                    Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life... And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.

                    Steve Jobs, Stanford Commencement Adress, 2005

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                      #40
                      Uk and Baclofen

                      Beatle

                      This was something I was thinking of commenting on here. You see people don't know me as a person. Actually 2 members of MWO have met me and do know me. They know that my intentions are always good. Anyone else here doesn't realise this.

                      I'll tell you something about me. I am a bit of a misfit, spent a lot of time on my own because of the bullying. As a result I can be quite blunt, straight to the point and without embellishment. This has meant some people in the real world have been offended at times, if they don't already know me as a person. It's also been speculated that I may have Aspergers.

                      I say things as they appear to me. To the point and blunt. It's not meant to offend or 'be' the word. I assume everyone will read around and will make their own opinion. It never occurs that newbies, nor anyone else would take my word or be influenced by it. I'm just trying to help. I know I come across as "telling", it's just how I am.

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                        #41
                        Uk and Baclofen

                        UK,

                        I like your postings. Make me smile sometimes because you're kind of clumsy, and sometimes they annoy me. Not you but they (the posts) But I never thought you were trying to do harm. Even when you're so blunt and to the point, I sometimes smile. I wish I could tell you a joke that would make you laugh out loud in real life. I guess you long to have a good laugh to.
                        But, regretfully, no jokes here. So sorry
                        Keep posting and I hope you will be able to keep the job and work on the probs the same time.

                        Low

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                          #42
                          Uk and Baclofen

                          Being blunt is one thing.

                          Spreading misinformation is another.

                          Making everything personal is another.

                          Attention-grabbing is yet another thing.

                          Manipulation and misrepresentation are other things entirely.

                          Bluntness is welcome here.
                          Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life... And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.

                          Steve Jobs, Stanford Commencement Adress, 2005

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                            #43
                            Uk and Baclofen

                            Ukblonde;1052299 wrote: Beatle

                            This was something I was thinking of commenting on here. You see people don't know me as a person. Actually 2 members of MWO have met me and do know me. They know that my intentions are always good. Anyone else here doesn't realise this.

                            I'll tell you something about me. I am a bit of a misfit, spent a lot of time on my own because of the bullying. As a result I can be quite blunt, straight to the point and without embellishment. This has meant some people in the real world have been offended at times, if they don't already know me as a person. It's also been speculated that I may have Aspergers.

                            I say things as they appear to me. To the point and blunt. It's not meant to offend or 'be' the word. I assume everyone will read around and will make their own opinion. It never occurs that newbies, nor anyone else would take my word or be influenced by it. I'm just trying to help. I know I come across as "telling", it's just how I am.
                            I will write you an email in response to this.
                            Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life... And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.

                            Steve Jobs, Stanford Commencement Adress, 2005

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                              #44
                              Uk and Baclofen

                              Ukblonde;1052299 wrote: I'll tell you something about me. I am a bit of a misfit, spent a lot of time on my own because of the bullying. As a result I can be quite blunt, straight to the point and without embellishment. This has meant some people in the real world have been offended at times, if they don't already know me as a person. It's also been speculated that I may have Aspergers.

                              I say things as they appear to me. To the point and blunt. It's not meant to offend or 'be' the word. I assume everyone will read around and will make their own opinion. It never occurs that newbies, nor anyone else would take my word or be influenced by it. I'm just trying to help. I know I come across as "telling", it's just how I am.
                              UK, oddly enough, your description of yourself is almost exactly as I pictured you. I have gotten used to your posts, and you show a genuine desire to get well and to help others get well, even if your advice to newbies may have been a bit skewed by your own experience. I find it interesting that you have been thought to have possible Aspergers. Did you ever see that "Autism Spectrum Quiz" that circulated on Facebook a while back? I know it's just an internet quiz, and I take it for what it's worth, but it said that people who scored 35 or higher are thought to have aspergers. I scored a 34. I know that there are a lot of studies that are showing a correlation between autism and alcoholism. I truly believe that there is one. Alcoholism is often stated as being not a disease per se, but as a symptom of an underlying anxiety disorder.

                              Anyway, I'm glad you're still posting, and I wish you the best in your journey to sobriety. :h

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                                #45
                                Uk and Baclofen

                                There was a study published recently which suggests that autism and alcoholism stem from the same dysfunction of the amygdala region of the brain which governs our fear and anxiety. Baclofen is being used to treat this anxiety.
                                New Version of an Old Drug Could Treat Autism (and Addiction Too) – TIME Healthland
                                BACLOFENISTA

                                baclofenuk.com

                                http://www.theendofmyaddiction.org





                                Olivier Ameisen

                                In addiction, suppression of symptoms should suppress the disease altogether since addiction is, as he observed, a "symptom-driven disease". Of all "anticraving medications used in animals, only one - baclofen - has the unique property of suppressing the motivation to consume cocaine, heroin, alcohol, nicotine and d-amphetamine"

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