Uk and Baclofen

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Uk and Baclofen

ok. I'm not sure how to respond at this point.
Doesn't seem like you took the suggestion to read, instead of posting, seriously. Too bad for the misunderstanding.
I'm afraid I don't have time/room for this atm.
ukblonde, All good things, sister-in-the-sauce. Sister, battling the same demonic bitch I am. ALL GOOD THINGS TO YOU!
xo, Karen
ps. pm box is almost full. don't have time to clean it out atm, but I will later. I will NOT have a brawl in this format, it's only interesting for the people involved in it and distracts from the message of hope and A way out. krileyd at gmail, make up a username and contact me there. or don't.

[Guest]

Uk and Baclofen

How do you know I haven't been reading?Are you sat here with me for hours at the pc?

No so stop jumping to incorrect conclusions. I've have been reading this forum, as well as this section for some years now.

You told me to shut up and read.

So I have been.

I won't post anymore as there is no point, when I ask I get told to shut up and read. So I'll read and stay silent.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Uk and Baclofen

ok. good.

:H
still, in case you didn't hear it, AGAIN:
:ls and :hs and love and support to you.

[Guest]

Uk and Baclofen

In that telling me to shut up is support. Right.

As I say stop jumping to incorrect conclusions. Misinformation.

[seeking_serenity]

Uk and Baclofen

UK--baclofen is not physically addictive. There is no craving for bac, no addictive high. I have to remind myself to take my pills, or I"ll forget. That doesn't mean that sudden withdrawal is safe...baclofen is very active in the brain, and it's never a good idea to suddenly withdraw from any drug that is active in the brain. However, if one titrates down slowly/safely, from what I understand the lower doses are tolerated well, with no "rebound anxiety" as one would experience from Xanax withdrawal.

[spuddleduck]

Uk and Baclofen

whoooaaaahh. i dont want to get too involved here but i think its very unhelpful for a member to tell another to stop writing. uk is obviously trying hard here and seems to accept suggestions and advice. maybe she is doing it her way but surely its always helpful to see how different ways affect people.
uk, i hope you KEEP WRITING whatever you're doing and let us know how its going

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Uk and Baclofen

spuddleduck;1051540 wrote: whoooaaaahh. i dont want to get too involved here but i think its very unhelpful for a member to tell another to stop writing. uk is obviously trying hard here and seems to accept suggestions and advice. maybe she is doing it her way but surely its always helpful to see how different ways affect people.
uk, i hope you KEEP WRITING whatever you're doing and let us know how its going

That may have been the wrong word choice, however, I'll let it stand.
It may also be easy to take those comments, and others I've made in regards this subject, out of context.

I apologize for contributing to misunderstanding. I stand by my suggestion that before posting advice/suggestions one should do some research and/or have some personal experience. Particularly when posting on threads started or frequented by newbies.
It's the last I'll say on the subject here or anywhere else.
Best spuddle!

[Guest]

Uk and Baclofen

Does personal experience include taking Bac I wonder?because I have been.

[bleep]

Uk and Baclofen

UK, a couple of points that I think are worth noting. If you disagree, fine, and I'll say no more on the subject.

Firstly, I do think it's wrong to weigh in on a newbie's thread with doubts. With bad experiences, sure, people need to know what they are getting themselves in to here. But doubts are different. This thread, right here, is where you can air your doubts.

Second, I think you need to try and get some form a schedule for baclofen going forward, and stick to it. Erratic leaping about with dosages is bound to unhinge even a level-headed person. I would hate to see you walk away from baclofen because a poorly planned dosage schedule meant you missed out on the benefits.

Good luck. We are thinking of you. A lot!

[Guest]

Uk and Baclofen

I wasn't aware I'd weighed in on a newbies thread?

[bleep]

Uk and Baclofen

I don't know the specific thread that neva is referring to, but the principle remains inviolate, I think.

[Guest]

Uk and Baclofen

Yes of course but I keep being beaten up about it, I agree with the principle but I wish I knew what she was referring to, because she keeps coming back to it time and time again. I have done nothing but post support for newbies, good positive advice for baclofen and sent links to information for them over the last few days. I have also posted many apologies for being too stupid to do my own research. Yet I still get the same old stuff thrown at me. I don't know why I bother.

I've suffered from bullying since a child, by peers, other drinkers, employers and it's one reason I go back to drink. This just feels like bullying from someone who has the high-ground and I'm tempted to just leave the site full stop. I never thought I'd feel it here, yet I feel I'm being ground down.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Uk and Baclofen

xxx
Wrong thing to do, so I've deleted it.

[Guest]

Uk and Baclofen

Right all the above info was confirmed by other posters on here. I have read on this very forum that others have mentioned breathlessness as a side effect.

I also have PERSONAL experience with librium myself, as well as drinking on sedatives and the advice I gave was correct - you shouldn't drink on librium for many many reasons and I posted a link I'd researched about this. Of course everyone should consult their Dr but I was very concerned for someone drinking on librium because it can be quite dangerous - and that comes from personal experience(I have used librium several times) plus research I've done on the drug, including reading labels/leaflets on the medication.

Ok I'll add quotes to threads too when I've got the time, it's all stuff I've read here.

Thank you for pointing out my signature error, I was once again so stupid and thick I forgot to update it when I started drinking again.

I have now corrected it, another feck up by UKB.

I was providing advice to someone who was doing something potentially quite dangerous (which drinking on librium can be), perhaps I shall just ignore it when someone is in such a situation in future?even when I have info useful to them- all that advice was based on personal experience, knowledge of medication that I've read(which was suggested). A lot of posts on here have said that when they managed to lower AL intake, they found SEs were less and it's possible the switch was experienced sooner. I will quote the posts very soon.

I shall remember to qualify every single statement I make from now on.

[Guest]

Uk and Baclofen

Some links for information on the 'advice' I've been giving;

Librium

Librium (chlordiazepoxide)
Librium and Alcohol

The second one highlights the risks of drinking alcohol with librium

This next thread mentions a few points made by one of the good Drs regards lowered AL intake reducing SEs
https://www.mywayout.org/community/f2...r-l-47794.html

I think Beatle mentioned having a couple of days AF really helped too, as did Bleep.

The reason I advised him to consult his Dr was because as you say someone on a forum shouldn't be telling anyone to take, or not take a drug(although there are plenty of other people doing so all over this site in regards to all sorts of supplements, meds etc). He'd already come clean, and has asked for Bac so what harm would going back with more info do?I'd not mention the drinking on librium however as it can make Drs reluctant to assist as I'm sure he'd have warned him about this, and the med comes with warnings all over it too(mine had "do not drink alcohol" on the printed prescription label). If he has a sympathetic Dr good enough to prescribe a small dose, then there is a lot of hope there.

I'll find some more references soo - I've cancelled work again so I can do that instead of earning a living.