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    #16
    Notes from my discussion with Dr. L

    More mouth diarrhea

    My guess is that the reason Dr. L. won't be drawn on the question of whether you will reach your switch point faster or at a lower dose if you are AF than if you are drinking is that he simply doesn't know.

    He probably has never told his patients to stop drinking and has never charted them by how much they drank in the process and how fast they reached their switch point. All he knows is that they all reached it (I'm not sure he ever said 100%, but that was the feeling), and that's all he's interested in. (And minimizing SEs through slow titration.).
    Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life... And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.

    Steve Jobs, Stanford Commencement Adress, 2005

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      #17
      Notes from my discussion with Dr. L

      ? From my notes:
      ?BDFN kicks with the GABA reception? first connection? bac undoes this connection?
      ?Like you never had any alcohol in your life. Just like magic. It stops. It turns itself off. And it will stay there for the rest of your life.?
      Great site! Glad I clocked in today to read this post. Very informative. Wonder if we should not take Bac after 18 months or keep taking a very low dose for the rest of our lives.

      AF on Bac since Sept, 2009. Still on 20mgs in two doses of 10mgs daily. :thanks:

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        #18
        Notes from my discussion with Dr. L

        In rats, and likely in people, there are 3 main situations which resulted in "relapse" after abstinence:

        Exposure to the addictive substance
        Exposure to the place where the substance was used regularly
        Stress.

        These things are best addressed with a conscious understanding and decision for abstinence at the earliest opportunity. Baclofen helps us do that.
        Sunny

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          #19
          Notes from my discussion with Dr. L

          Bugs,
          I too still take 20 mg at bedtime (AF since Jan 2010) Interesting. I take it as much to help me fall asleep as for any worry about drinking.
          S

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            #20
            Notes from my discussion with Dr. L

            Sunnyvalenting;1052677 wrote: Bugs,
            I too still take 20 mg at bedtime (AF since Jan 2010) Interesting. I take it as much to help me fall asleep as for any worry about drinking.
            S
            Hi S - I take one 10 mg in the morning and one at night - it helps me sleep maybe, as I still have some nights that I wake up from 2 to 4 times, but fall back to sleep pretty quick though. Sticking to the 20 mgs mainly to keep the stress and anxiety away or for fear of it coming back - the alcohol bit is well and truly buried is how I feel about it but hate the thought of it coming back too. :h Bugs

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              #21
              Notes from my discussion with Dr. L

              I am bumping this because it was way down on page 4, and I think it goes together with Redhead's thread. I feel different questions were answered as a result of our different interactions with Dr. L.

              Putting together this information makes sense. I think Greg talked about printing Red's thread out and showing his friends. Well, I think this would go together with that.

              AND, Neva did the same thing after her conversation or conversations with Dr. L. I can't find it now, but maybe someone else can and then copy and paste it onto Red's? In fact, I will do that with my initial post on this thread, but I also think the rest of this thread will answer other questions.

              good work everyone!
              Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life... And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.

              Steve Jobs, Stanford Commencement Adress, 2005

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                #22
                Notes from my discussion with Dr. L

                Sorry, I just want this thread to stay as close as possible to the other Dr. L questions thread...
                Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life... And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.

                Steve Jobs, Stanford Commencement Adress, 2005

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