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    Bruun's Titting UP

    Oh. and I put paprika/garlic salt/pepper on my kale chips, and agree with serenity, they burn easily.
    I can't speak to the gardening question, as the gardener in the group has sadly not accepted my proposal and I don't know squat about growing things well.

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      PROPOSAL??? What sort of proposal? This sounds WAAAAYYYYY more interesting than spinach, romaine, or even the beloved kale!!!

      Bruun, I hope you don't mind us all hijacking you and your thread!!! :l

      DG
      Sobriety Date = 5/22/08
      Nicotine Free Date = 2/27/07


      One day at a time.

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        OK, is the Kale crisps thing some sort of a joke? That was the most disgusting thing I have ever put in my mouth AND my kitchen now reeks of boiled cabbage. :yukko:

        The unexamined life is not worth living

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          Murphyx;1075814 wrote: OK, is the Kale crisps thing some sort of a joke? That was the most disgusting thing I have ever put in my mouth AND my kitchen now reeks of boiled cabbage. :yukko:
          I hope not! Horrors! I heard about it on the Cooking Channel! (maybe I should stick to programs like The Young and the Restless....)

          DG
          Sobriety Date = 5/22/08
          Nicotine Free Date = 2/27/07


          One day at a time.

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            LOL Murph, did you really do the kale chips? I don't believe it, I think you're pulling our legs. That recipe didn't look very pretty, Serenity, but I did save it thinking I may need to try it sometime. I tend to run out of food ideas because I got tired of cooking for one or two. This week at Farmers Mkt, I purchased the nasty green drink plus red beets with the greens on, for roasting and blendering (I don't juice, it gets rid of the fiber). Excuse that new word and any spelling errors today, just can't figure out how to spell things right now.

            That nasty green smoothy is bitter and I chug daily it so I don't have to do veggies if I don't want to. I do like to do rainbow kale in season over the stove with some celtic salt, like you do spinach. With or without olive oil. LOL Tracy, did your DH even drink it? Haha! I make people drink my weird concoctions all the time. My fiber (psyllium with or without soluable fibers) drink, my mud (bentonite clay) drink, my special combo of both with EmergenC thrown in. That last one I don't do really, just tried it once. I don't think the kale will grow again, my lettuce doesn't, same family right? My lettuce didn't reseed either. However, my tomato plants are still producing from last year, nothing edible but still, troopers.

            I never eat eclairs and fettucinni, ever ever ever, so it was quite a day. The funny thing is, ever since my bac experience, my tastes have changed somewhat. For example, I used to love lasagne and chicken picata, but now they sound gross. And fettucini, I used to think was a waste of calories, and no protein, what's the point? Now fettucini sounds divine. Maybe it's the separation of protein and carbs, and keeping the carbs and fats together (isn't that the theory?) that my body is liking. WTF, who knows.

            -and I'm still semi-nauseaus. This morning I had half a slice of quiche, gross. I couldn't eat the crust. I feel like a sausage outgrowing it's casing. SPLAT on the ceiling! (just for you Ne)

            And by the way, after eating all that crap, I slept in the middle of the day for 3-4 hours, AND then slept 12 hours last night. Something's going on here... HOW am I going to work tomorrow? And WHERE is that lottery win? !! Damn.

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              hmmm. bruun, I'm going to go out on a limb here. I know you'll think I'm bac-nuts, but hey, you already do!!! and you like me in spite of it. (thx, btw)

              A lot of what you're talking about smacks of bac to me.

              The decreased drinking. The carb/sweet craving. Some other things you've said here and elsewhere...

              hmmm. The studies that have actually been done? Show decreased AL consumption with just 30mg/day. or less, I think, in some cases.

              I know, I know, you're not taking it. right now. It changes our brain chemistry, right? It doesn't work like the other anti-AL meds. Which don't re-wire the hard drive of our brain. So perhaps your brain has been re-wired a bit? I dunno.

              The other tools you are using are for sure the real reason for your continued success in this struggle. I would suggest that the carb/sweet craving are related to your previous bac use, since like you, I never ate that stuff or craved it really and now I gravitate toward it. My pantry is full of bags of processed corn stuff. I've NEVER had that before. My faves are covered in sugary chemicals. again, not my thing.

              I might actually start using l-glut (gasp!) again because of the great research you and others have done. And loooooove the fish oil. It's the only thing that combats my dry skin. So thanks to you and Is for that.
              hugs

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                Dude, you overcooked the kale. yuck. That's the worst. I can attest to the fact that the smell is better than hardboiled eggs on the ceiling/floor/stuck to the fridge. disgusting.

                And DG, the proposal was one of marriage, because what wife doesn't need a wife? But apparently she's not interested. boohooo :-( It's alright, though. My husband has enough to keep up with my needs!

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                  Ne, I guess I forgot to post that the idea that low dose bac might have had an impact here. Thought I had but then again, I think of doing that and then go research it before I post and wham! I never post it. Maybe I have perma-bac brain even tho I'm not usually taking it. Then again, I think I may have been waiting it out, to see if it sticks. I hate having to recant.

                  Regarding the sweet tooth, when you cut out AL, I think we all get more of a sweet tooth, that's not just bac. It's AA'ers, I know for sure. and ...I only bought the pastry because I'm supposed to "load" on this diet before going low calorie/carb. And I recalled from my childhood it was my fave. However, I got 1/3 the way through it, and I was SO over it. Being the soldier I am, I ate the rest of it anyways. And from yesterday, I got such a stomach ache I had to cancel my plans and remain in PJ's today and had GI upset. Now I have a ripping headache, which I'm medicating with a bac and a beer. I have no desire to have many beers or anything except maybe an anti-diarrheal. Ugh.

                  But you can consider me a guinea-tiger on low-dose bac, because I do continue to take 10-25mg every other day or so. And I do feel changed, but I'm also taking Lithium Orotate (Coalfire correct my spelling if you want, I can't go to the holistic thread right now to check it) which helps with AL for many people.

                  And I also loaded up HUGELY on L-glut in the past two weeks, due to it's healing properties (for the gut which you may notice has problems with all sorts of stuff these days) as well as anti-carb cravings. I mean heavy dosing, like 5000mg. It comes in a powder so I put it in one of my nasty drinks (the psyllium, the mud, or the protein) daily.

                  And kudos to you Karen for noticing. I will continue posting. Would LOVE to be a bac success story, esp for those who can't bac UP to a switch. For the record, I started it in ... was it November or December? I'll have to check FB for our old emails if it's on there.

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                    PS guinea tiger because on chat earlier we were discussing what year (Chinese) we were each born in. There's alot of rats and pigs here! I happen to be a great big pussy. Yes, I mean tiger and yes I'm whoring for a laugh.

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                      I'm a big ol cock! (rooster).

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                        LOL, GLAD to hear it.

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                          One more observation about bac, I agree with the concept that it could be used in weight loss therapy. Like topa. Both in low doses.

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                            Spellcheckk:
                            I am a sobriety tart. AA/Smart/RR philosophy, meds/diet/exercise/prayer,rabbbits feet/four leaf clovers/horseshoes. Yes please.I will have them all thank you very much.Bring them on


                            There is no way the bottle is going to be stronger than I am.

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                              Thx! :goodjob:

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                                Update for today.

                                I had a bottle of wine last night, and a beer. I went out and bought it and thought I'd only have a glass, because lately I haven't had any desire for wine until last night. As you might expect, and I should have predicted from so many previous experiences, that one glass turned into four large ones and the bottle was empty. I woke up in the middle of the night with stomach pain a few times and had to take anti-diarrheals or I'm sure I'd be vomiting and other stuff right now. Used to be a bottle was pretty reasonable for me, now it's way over the top. Something has happened to me physically so I can't tolerate it without a physical meltdown. I know AL damages the GI system and that's my problem. No more wine for me.

                                I'm feeling the hangover remorse and doomsday thoughts about work and stuff in general.

                                I do feel like I have made a final point to myself: Any future AL will be beer, beer and only beer. Preferably not my favorite beer - I find the dark beers heavier so I often only drink one. That will be my goal. It's the second beer is what lights my AL demon up and gets me in trouble.

                                It makes sense to go back the same path I came up, going from weaker to stronger drinks as I got deeper into Al. Now I'm going back down that path and I am praying desperately that I can stay that path with supplements and MWO support this time around.

                                I woke up last night thinking, I have not yet done this:

                                THANK YOU ROBERTA JEWEL for the book and the forum. And of course, thank you ALL in the forum.

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