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    #31
    Bruun's Titting UP

    I'm feeling very Taw today, again! That means vomity, it's awful, I'm spending the first 2/3 of each day feeling like I want to die, popping the anti-diarrheals and sipping water, trying to keep my stomach from volcanics. Hungover on bac, throwing up doesn't make me feel better, but much much worse. Maybe it's due to the double dehydration (al and bac). When I vomit, I feel so dehydrated, I feel like I should go to the ER. So far, today, no vomits but been nursing myself since 4am in extreme discomfort and feverish.:upset:

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      #32
      Bruun's Titting UP

      Hey Bruuun

      I'm going to get slated for this I can just see, and I know it's obvious but some of these bad SE's are probably due to the Bac/Al combination. I feel a lot better when I have AF days - no ringing in ears or feeling sick, no pooping either. Takes a few days for me to get here, and the temptation is pretty bad but it can work.

      I know going AF isn't for everyone but I'm tolerating 75-100mgs no problems, but if I drank on that I know I'd get the bad sides.

      I usually get an ear bashing for suggesting stuff like this though.

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        #33
        Bruun's Titting UP

        No worries, I know it's totally the bac v AL war in my body, my own fault. I almost went AF yesterday but then not only succumbed but went way overboard. I have much less discipline ON the bac then off it. I wish I could get an AF day in. Almost went AF. WTF

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          #34
          Bruun's Titting UP

          Bruunhilde;1055909 wrote: I'm feeling very Taw today, again! That means vomity, it's awful, I'm spending the first 2/3 of each day feeling like I want to die, popping the anti-diarrheals and sipping water, trying to keep my stomach from volcanics. Hungover on bac, throwing up doesn't make me feel better, but much much worse. Maybe it's due to the double dehydration (al and bac). When I vomit, I feel so dehydrated, I feel like I should go to the ER. So far, today, no vomits but been nursing myself since 4am in extreme discomfort and feverish.:upset:
          Sorry to hear you're so vomity, Bruun! It definitely sounds like a bac + alcohol thing...I cannot handle the hangovers when I drink too much on Bac. I hope you feel better soon. :l

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            #35
            Bruun's Titting UP

            Bruunhilde;1054663 wrote:
            Like Is, I have some terrible foot problems and was hoping the vibraams would help. I think there's a couple of things going on here. Is, let me know your thoughts:

            My feet are better when I exercise, but I can't exercise when I'm incapacitated/can't walk. Stretching helps but being a drinker, I find it hard to be disciplined to do even that. By the way, I was better at all of this, obsessive even, until I hit 40. The age-switch.
            I totally hear you on the "can't work out cuz I'm in too much damn pain"! My foot hurts no matter what I do.. working out usually makes mine worse because the joint takes a beating.
            Now that I'm not a drinker, it's amazing what kinds of routines I have time and energy for. I do a daily (ok, not EVERY day, but close) short routine for my back pain and use my inversion table, do a whole skin regimen morning and night (could never be bothered to do THAT when I was still drinking every night). You'll get there. And then you'll be stretching every day and faithfully making and using your meth lab eye cream and all kinds of other stuff!

            Bruunhilde;1054663 wrote:
            I work in a very casual environment most of the time, so I wear fit-flops, which are the only shoes I own (and I have about two dozen pair) that don't cause me pain after a couple of hours. In fact, I can go all day in them. The only thing that comes close (to painfree) is wearing socks without shoes.

            This time of year, I wear the winter fit-flop slip ons, they are U.G.L.Y. But I'm free of pain and can walk. However, having worn these for a year, I am now having more pain when I wear dress shoes for meetings, I get the crippling pain that the vibraams give me. There's something going on with the little toes. I don't know if the fit-flops have done something good or bad? I think it's probably good and the dress shoes and lack of exercise are bad.

            I was looking into getting something like fit flops (and yeah, they are ugly!) before I got my inserts. I wore regular flip flops all the time too, and could wear them ALL day long w/no problem. I didn't even realize I had foot problems, aside from the shitty joint. I would highly suggest you see if there is a Good Feet Store in your area. Even if you just go in and do the assessments just to see what you're dealing with.
            I used to think that barefoot or as close to barefoot as possible was the best thing, but it actually might be hurting you more than helping you.
            I ran with my Good Feet inserts in on Friday, did sprints on the treadmill. And I was amazed at how "right" it felt. Before I always felt like my form was off, nothing even to do with my feet. But this time, I didn't find myself making any minor adjustments to my form, because it felt right from the beginning.
            It's taken me awhile to get accustomed to the insert for the left foot. And the funny thing is that my joint issue is with the right foot, I thought the left was fine. But the reason it's still uncomfortable is because the left foot is really messed up! I looked at my flip flops (a pair I've been wearing consistently for a few years), and the left one has GOUGES in it under my heel and also really badly under the ball of the foot under the pinky toe. Damn near worn all the way through!
            In any case, I was really impressed by the place and have been recommending them left and right.

            Bruunhilde;1054663 wrote:

            Next, I'm finding that the hard sleep bac plus xanax gives me, causes me to sleep in one position for five or 7 hours straight without moving. I wake with intense pain in my other foot or hip and a numb arm from sleeping on my back. Used to only have numb arm from sleeping on my arm. I can't tell I'm leaning on one side vs the other, seems like I'm flat on my back, but this keeps happening. Maybe it's simply being in one position too long and an old mattress.

            Also, hearing things that aren't there still. Now it's the cat meowing at the door when in fact, she's across the yard taking a shit. It used to be that sound like the neighbor's TV is on at all hours, earplugs or no earplugs. In fact, worse with the earplugs...
            Even though I'm still tossing and turning (even w/the xanax), I'm finding pain points from sleeping lately too. My arms will fall asleep even after a short period of sleeping with one under the pillow (and my head). I'm really starting to wonder if my mattress could be to blame. My back issues didn't start until I started sleeping on it (it's an old mattress that I started sleeping on again recently after moving in December). I used to love the damn thing, but I think it's shot.

            Yup, I'm hearing stuff all the time too! I laughed my ass off at the cat taking a shit across the yard comment! :H It does always sound like there's a tv on somewhere and I just can't quite make out what's on it. Then sometimes I DO hear what's on the tv, and it's rather disturbing when I realize that it was just all in my head the whole time.
            Better Living Through Chemistry

            Switched at 180mgs of Baclofen on 1/31/11, and again on 10/8/11 at 200mgs.

            Could've been a swan on a glassy lake, could've been a gull in a clipper's wake. Could've been a ladybug on a windchime, but she was born a dragonfly.
            ~Clutch

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              #36
              Bruun's Titting UP

              two quick suggestions for physical pain and how to work out ( if you are obsessive like me) through it.
              one, a great book " the permanent pain cure" by Ming chow. former champion bodybuilder and martial artist turned healer. it's about myofascial stretching.
              two, get a wetvest and run in the deep end of the pool. boring but very effective. this is what colleges use when their runners are injured. the athletes usually come out of their injuries with weight loss and no lost fitness. you can still do sprints, intervals, whatever. maybe put a radio on the deck for the boredom. I've had great results from both. google both for more info.

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                #37
                Bruun's Titting UP

                Sorry to hear you are poorly Bruun. For me bac + booze = severe bac SE's the next day. Spinning head, loud buzzing, almost unable to function. I explained this to my wife, and she says that's what her hangovers are always like! For me, it was definitely a baclofen SE thing kicking in though, I've never had a hangover like that before!

                I have found that reducing my dose slightly means a huge reduction in SE's, so maybe drop a little for a day or two before trying again?

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                  #38
                  Bruun's Titting UP

                  Thanks Bleep, I dropped yesterday to 30mg and when I took my BP, it was very high. I'm going down to 10 or 20mg today. Note this is the first time I've taken my BP since starting bac, unfortunately, and I took four instead of three pills last night because I've been feeling so extra weird and awful, like I'm having a heart attack or something. :upset:

                  AL units yesterday = less than 1.

                  Today I'm nauseas again, exhausted, foggy, did I say nauseaus? Very very. Barely got to work.

                  Is, my neighbor has recommended that store to me. But I think I need to correct the underlying issues first. At our block party this weekend, a friend who just had a hip replacement and needs both knees and the other hip done too, said her PT and OT keep finding stuff wrong with her and it's because she's favored one side her whole life (like us) and it just ground up her joints from floor to shoulders. I was told I needed to do PT for that too, a couple of years ago, but didn't follow through. New motivation ....

                  Gratitude, thanks - so does health insurance cover this at all, the myofascial therapy?

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                    #39
                    Bruun's Titting UP

                    Note to clarify, I meant I took 4 instead of 3 BP pills, to lower my pressure. It's normal this morning but I can't take four pills a day, that's insane, and I'm only at 80mg with this happening. Hopeful Grommet has some path as guinea animal to guide my way.

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                      #40
                      Bruun's Titting UP

                      I mentioned this on another thread, Bruun: scratch a lemon and sniff it for nausea. xo
                      "Wherever you are is the entry point." --Kabir

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                        #41
                        Bruun's Titting UP

                        Thanks Red. I've been doing the ginger thing and it helps, but if I can add lemon to that and do better, I sure will.

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                          #42
                          Bruun's Titting UP

                          bruun,
                          the myofascial stretching is in his book. you can do it yourself. doesn't take long at all. it's called active release technique or ART if done by a practitioner I believe.

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                            #43
                            Bruun's Titting UP

                            Thanks Grat, I'll check it out right now.

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                              #44
                              Bruun's Titting UP

                              Bruunhilde;1056336 wrote:
                              Is, my neighbor has recommended that store to me. But I think I need to correct the underlying issues first. At our block party this weekend, a friend who just had a hip replacement and needs both knees and the other hip done too, said her PT and OT keep finding stuff wrong with her and it's because she's favored one side her whole life (like us) and it just ground up her joints from floor to shoulders. I was told I needed to do PT for that too, a couple of years ago, but didn't follow through. New motivation ....
                              Wow, that sounds insanely serious.. I don't know, I think I'd rather try the inserts first and see if that helps correct the problem before I go and get all of my major joints replaced! Not that you would need to go to such extreme measures too, but if that's what they recommended, would you go through with it?

                              It's amazing how many little (or big!) muscle imbalances we have (well, all kinds of imbalances really! :H). When I was researching a way to get rid of my back pain, I came across an ebook that had me do a few assessments and I have a high right hip, and my head and neck are too far forward from too many hours at the computer each day. They give exercises to do to counteract each type of imbalance, and I do think that there is value in that. (Apologies if I've already mentioned this before, I can't keep up with everything I post and who I tell what to!)

                              By the way, I've decided that my mattress is to blame for the back pain. Looking into a memory foam knock off on Amazon. I'll letcha know how it works out!
                              Better Living Through Chemistry

                              Switched at 180mgs of Baclofen on 1/31/11, and again on 10/8/11 at 200mgs.

                              Could've been a swan on a glassy lake, could've been a gull in a clipper's wake. Could've been a ladybug on a windchime, but she was born a dragonfly.
                              ~Clutch

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                                #45
                                Bruun's Titting UP

                                definitely get the inserts. I read the book " born to run" and tried the barefoot or minimal footbed thing and immediately got injured. I think it works for people that gradually do it. or young people. or Indian runners in Mexico that have been doing it all their life and have built those muscles,tendons stronger.

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