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    Bruun's Titting UP

    Winetasting, Horseback riding, and Acid Dreams

    Hey Ig, no jinx, thanks for poking me. I like knowing someone is out there...

    Anne, so sorry I totally missed your post prior to my "breakthrough" post - I read the link on ayahuasca and loved it, it sounded alot like the book I mentioned by Kira Salek. I so want to do this but I'm not sure about the trek up the river in the forest. The book scared me away, too many dangerous things in that area AND crime! The character in the story was such a hardass, I'm really not. Anyways, thanks for posting it. Do you have any idea if it's considered more or less effective than ibogaine? Ibogaine may be less expensive if you get it done in TJ (Tijuana) vs Peru, given the travel costs and need to be transported to the shaman and then pay the shaman and fly home again.

    I went horseback riding and winetasting yesterday, it was a lunch/winetasting/riding package deal we purchased months ago and I had been AF for 5 days, and yesterday I guess was AF 6 - sorta. I did wine taste, but they put maybe a tablespoon or two in each taste and there are 5-6 tastings per session. We went to two wineries, and on an empty stomach, I got a little tipsy after just that tiny bit of wine - I guess it was 1/3 glass at that point. I had expected to be fed lunch first! Then we went riding, and to another winery. OMG so hot outside but the pony was lovely and the trail very western dusty movie style, I had my hat and my horse was a sweet Palomino mare. When that was done, it was 3:30 by the time we ate our "gourmet lunch" - a chicken leg, small salad, potato chips from the bag and beans from a can. Hmph. Then we drove home, and I just walked in the door and started heating up food, stuffing it in my face. I had NO DESIRE to have any alcohol. I had less than half a glass and hadn't craved it. Amazing. And I don't feel any cravings right now, but in the evenings I do constantly need to distract myself from drinking thinking, but it's not really white knuckling. This happened, this strange sort of easy start, in my last effort to go AF - it was right after I developed some confidence that I could have AF days for the first time in my life, which had been the prior two weeks off and on. Plus I was desperate to stick to my diet, but this time around I AM DEDICATING myself to being a new person physically and emotionally, so I expect better results. My mistake the first time, of course, was that I became cocky, I thought, I can have one glass or two glasses of wine, no problem, I think I'm in control now. You KNOW where that thinking gets you, so this time I'm going to be much more careful. Yesterday was a revelation however, that I could go somewhere, have half a glass of wine over an afternoon and enjoy it without desperately racing home to get hammered. I guess the secret is to have other things to do during that time, rather than just sitting there drinking and talking, or drinking and watching TV, etc.

    Another item of note, I think I posted back in time that I had ordered neurontin (gabapentin) again and have been taking it to quell the AL cravings and it seems to help quite a bit PRN. I do have trouble sleeping lately but not sure it's due to that, because I had ten (300mg) pills previously without that issue, and I don't think they're time released. I say that because I bought 600mg this time and am splitting the pills in half, for the same dosage at cheaper prices. I thought perhaps I could attribute this experience I"m about to describe to the gabapentin but since I've never had this problem in about 13 pills, I thought, why now?
    The night before last, I was trying to sleep and it was either Friday or Saturday night, so it was right after that breakthrough. I had hallucinogenic dreams in vivid color for the first time in my life. Colors and patterns and themes, it reminded me that Beatles short film I think called The Yellow Submarine which is like a LSD dream, I had assumed. I don't recall anything about the dreams except they only lasted (I think) during the first hour of trying to sleep as I was dozing off. I woke from them in a rush, like I was experiencing waking up from an eventful dream, like what's going on!? I felt like something was different, something was happening. I don't really know how else to describe it. I had a fleeting notion that all the work I've been doing on myself and my drinking, and the neurontin or something is rewiring my brain somehow, or helping me to change things, to allow different patterns in my brain.

    So again that brings me back to you guys, thank you for all your help, I think it's making a difference and I definitely recommend that book You Can Heal Your Life if you're open to that stuff. First time I read it, I wasn't ready. But it was on hand for me, when I became ready.

    Thanks Nev, Ig, DG, Rudy, Green, Bleepster, Red, Anne, Rusty!

    And that's the news from here. Still going strong. :l

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      Bruun, I am so happy you are moving forward with your life!! We all deserve better than the AL Prison. I love what you said about "being ready." I wasn't ready for a long long long time. I couldn't make any progress either until I became ready and willing. Just wanted to share that so you know you are not alone!

      DG
      Sobriety Date = 5/22/08
      Nicotine Free Date = 2/27/07


      One day at a time.

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        Bruun,

        :yay:CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR AF DAYS!!!!!!!!:goodjob: You so deserve this reward and I admire you for never giving up!!!:l

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          Hey there my friends,

          Thanks for being so wonderful, you've both been cheerleaders for me and constant support. :l

          That whole "being ready" or able to receive the information given, or being ready to change, is something you can't give someone - or we'd all be free by now. And it's what every addict wants and is also afraid of, almost every one, I should say.

          I personally think it has alot to do with dispelling fearfulness, at least for me. Fear of not having your crutch AL, fear of never having fun again, fear of boredom, fear of being perceived "differently" or as a nerd.

          At least for me, that's where I'm heading.

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            Bruun,
            One of the games I play is the drinking game. If I drink just one, does that mean I'm better? How 'bout two? If it's every other day, a special occasion?
            What about if it's a lovely, lovely picnic/ride/wine tasting? Things that other people, who don't have this disease can enjoy without repercussion. WHY CAN'T I???

            I've found that the more simple I keep things, the more effective I am. I found this out halfway through my bac journey. I let go of a lot of the things that were/are very important to me. Turns out that some, or even most, aren't very important to me anymore. The day I threw out my self-help books, for instance, was more cathartic than any help I'd gotten from them. The day I stopped stressing about where the spinach came from, whether or not there are pesticides on it, and started focusing on eating an awful lot of it, I started to lose weight. The day I stopped worrying about taking stuff that I thought was good for me and started focusing all my energy on the one thing that was going to get and keep me sober is the day I started the journey toward freedom.

            You were given the gift of a moment of clarity. It's remarkable how and when they come, isn't it? My understanding is that the message was that you are ready to do this. That you are willing, able and open to being alcohol free.
            My moments of clarity get clouded after a while. Sometimes just hours! I am very happy that I can sort of remember and refocus on just that simple message. I am ready, willing and completely able to do my next step. Doesn't mean it doesn't get lost. It just means I can remember, and I do! to come back to it.

            Alcohol, any alcohol at all, isn't your friend. It's your mortal enemy. I can see that you are arming yourself and focusing your energy like never before to kill the beast. Sadly, there are many battles.

            I hope this post is met with the spirit with which it was intended. Lots of love and support and, I hope, understanding!
            :l
            Karen

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              Bruunhilde;1145704 wrote: And it's what every addict wants and is also afraid of, almost every one, I should say.

              I personally think it has alot to do with dispelling fearfulness, at least for me
              . Fear of not having your crutch AL, fear of never having fun again, fear of boredom, fear of being perceived "differently" or as a nerd.
              Bruun, fear was a HUGE driving factor for me too, and I think for many (most?) alcoholics. Fear paralyzed me on the inside and then eventually, paralyzed me on the outside too. For me, faith is an antidote for fear, and that is difficult sometimes. Faith that things will work out OK, even if I'm not sure what that will look like. Faith that I will have the strength to face whatever needs facing in my life, without the crutch of AL. Etc.

              FWIW....

              Mean time, have a great day!

              DG
              Sobriety Date = 5/22/08
              Nicotine Free Date = 2/27/07


              One day at a time.

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                Thanks Neva and DG,

                You make excellent points. Ne, the "drinking game" is what kept us all alcoholics for so many years. OF COURSE I can stop at one or two. I've done it before. Why can't I do it now? The admission that I cannot, and that it's NOT such a bad thing after all, is what I'm battling all the time. I understand the WHY ME thoughts; its natural to have them - all cancer patients have that at one time or another, I think. At least we don't have cancer! At least we can use our toolbox instead of chemo. Good point on the focus. Your post was welcomed and I understand completely where you were going with it, I relate exactly. Thanks for putting the time into it and posting here.

                It helps me personally to remember that I'm on a sugar-free diet supposedly, and that keeping off AL will grow my hair back which is paramount along with my weight loss goal. I am officially cheating on the diet to keep from imbibing the AL, and hoping once I get to the bottom of the ice cream tub that my AL cravings will have diminished a little more.

                DG, I also understand what you're saying about faith. One of the things I read in RJ's book that struck home was that most alcoholics don't succeed at stopping because they believe they can't control their drinking. Thus its a self-fulfilling prophesy. The first time I went AF since my twenties was four days in a row about three years ago, and it was thanks to this site and that book as well as realizing, a revelation, that RJ was right. I was believing I couldn't handle it. Once I decided that concept was right, and that I have not relinquished ALL of my power over this situation, I was able to accept and embrace that I can do AF days. However, I find that one slip-up may or may not bring me spiraling down into the gloom and desperation where I do feel powerless to not drink. It takes a special moment for me to regain my footing and take the reins again. And that moment comes around when it wants to. I think I made that moment come back through practicing with the self-help book I mentioned, You Can Heal Your Life. It's all about believing you can do and have and be the person you were meant to be. One thing leads to another.

                Having faith in life itself, that the universe is abundant and I am open to receiving abundance including freedom from this disease and worry about finances, etc. When I can get to the clearing and see that is true, I can eliminate the negative thinking that pulls me into the toilet. I'm in the clearing now. I am practicing and practicing to stay there.

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                  Bruun, have you heard of Jo Dunning? Shes an energy worker. You might be interested in the Quick Pulse Session tomorrow (Thursday) evening - well, in USA anyway - don't recall where you are.
                  Info - Jo Dunning Events
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                    Thanks Green, I'll look into it. I can't access from this pc, it's blocked.

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                      Wowsers! One PC is blocked, the other won't post. If you had a third, I'm sure there would be an exciting issue there as well. You need an IT guru to step into your life for a spell, methinks!

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                        Ha, I know, it's a PITA. The work computer is blocked. I can't see any of the fun Youtube things people post or anything the company deems "inappropriate". So of course NOTHING Murph posts shows up. LOL

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                          Brunn.

                          Looking good

                          Looking tough

                          and strong
                          Started Baclofen 3/9/10 Hit my switch at 250mg on 21/11/10 Present maintenance dose of 50mg : started drinking after 1 year, upped dose to 80mg and stopped: Tapered to 30mg, started 6 months of drinking, upped dose to 240mg to stop 12/7/12

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                            I just love the *sound* of you lately Bruun. If I can climb out of that hell hole, I know you can do it too. :l :yougo:

                            Murphy's posts are probably crashing a server somewhere.

                            DG
                            Sobriety Date = 5/22/08
                            Nicotine Free Date = 2/27/07


                            One day at a time.

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                              I think it's the gabapentin improving my control...

                              I really do think the gabapentin is making a huge difference in my ability to avoid AL. I'm no longer feeling insecure and defensive, I'm able to focus on being positive, my mood is almost always good (SHOCKER) now, and I'm getting stronger. I'm on 300mg/day which is a low dose, sometimes I will do 600 if I have the drinking thoughts.

                              Ig, DG, thanks for your supportive words, it helps to hear them. No one else knows what I'm doing with AL but my MWO friends, and my friends and family have no idea the size of the demon. I can't share my successes - I learned a long time ago that kind of information given to someone who isn't addicted is enough to change their perspective of you for the worse forever. "You drank HOW much?????!!!!! Why?" ... ugh.

                              My mom likened my drinking to uncontrollable cookie-eating. WTF. She's a NURSE, she should know better. Her father was an alcoholic as was my dad's. DG, you'd be a wonderful addiction counselor. I saw your interest in that and agree with the others there, in the thread you posted on, are you looking into it?

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                                Hi Bruun. I am SO THRILLED to read this latest update!!! I too am so glad to have people to talk to here and at AA about my addiction because you are so right - people who have not PERSONALLY experienced it can't possibly understand. Or at least I haven't really encountered any.

                                Yes I am looking into becoming an Addiction Counselor. A few days ago I found the state licensing agency site for all that info. I also scheduled an appointment to meet with the Exec Director of one of the local recovery programs. Today I found out more about the college course requirements and some helpful info on reducing tuition costs. I've even looked up the schedule for courses I would take in the fall if I decide to pursue it. So....we shall see. I think one of the biggest issues in that field is burnout. I am turning that around to my advantage by considering a move to that profession at this age (29) of my life. So that's it so far!!! Gives me something to get excited about. One of the "electives" options is an independent study type opportunity. It crossed my mind that I would love doing something related to emerging meds in addiction treatment or something along those lines. If the teacher would approve that.

                                Is there a thread somewhere with all the particulars and links, etc. to gabapentin? I am sure interested in reading more about it. I AM SO HAPPY FOR YOU!!!!

                                DG
                                Sobriety Date = 5/22/08
                                Nicotine Free Date = 2/27/07


                                One day at a time.

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