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    #76
    Let's meet in Chicago!

    I'm still in if it's a go. I thought I could even have a shindig at my house. I'm pretty sure the group will end up small. Then again, I live in the burbs (there's much more to do in the city), and I'm not sure what I would tell my nanny... these are my online friends and we all take insane amounts of a muscle relaxant ( or not depending who you are) to try to stop drinking or at least curb how much we drink. Yeah right! :H I would be open to whatever and I won't schedule myself to work that weekend just in case.

    Speaking of, I've been there a ton this week. Lots of overtime. I haven't been on in days and I know I have some PMs to return. I'll do that tonight after I get home from work. I'm on a break, on my phone.

    xxoo
    This Princess Saved Herself

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      #77
      Let's meet in Chicago!

      Red, I didn't realize you live in the Chicago area. I'm in Joliet. Are you anywhere this direction?

      Would love to meet you guys if it comes together, if you would have me!

      DG
      Sobriety Date = 5/22/08
      Nicotine Free Date = 2/27/07

      One day at a time.

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        #78
        Let's meet in Chicago!

        Please, let's! And I feel like a small group would be fine, maybe avoid the pitfalls that beatle mentioned (and I dreamt about).
        "Yet someday this will have an end
        All choices made or choice resigned,
        And in your face the literal eye
        Trace little of your history,
        Nor ever piece the tale entire
        Of villages that had to burn
        And playgrounds of the will destroyed
        Before you could be safe from time
        And gather in your brow and air
        The stillness of antiquity."

        From "At Majority" by Adrienne Rich

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          #79
          Let's meet in Chicago!

          DG, I do live in Chicagoland. I won't tell you the exact town, because I don't want Murphy to stalk me. :H I'm not far too far from you, about 45 minutes. I would absolutely love it if we got together and you came for a visit.

          We could come to my house one of the nights if the group is small. I'm sure transportation could be an issue for those that are coming on flights or live in the city (such as yourself WCL). There is the Metra to get out here, and I could pick up a small group. I tote around three kids and a nanny. And I do love to entertain.

          We could also leave that alone, and I could just come into the city. We could eat, and do whatever we decide is fun. I would get a hotel room downtown for a night or two. I am totally up for anything. I will help or host however I can. Y'all just tell me what you want to do. :l If you are coming that is.

          Explore Chicago | The Official Chicago Tourism Site
          This Princess Saved Herself

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            #80
            Let's meet in Chicago!

            redhead77;1169406 wrote: DG, I do live in Chicagoland. I won't tell you the exact town, because I don't want Murphy to stalk me. :H
            Too late Red, you made the mistake of telling me your real name and now I have all your details including photographs, home and work addresses and I've rented the house across the road from you. Have you noticed that bloke sitting by the window with the binoculars? The one who only ever wears underwear? That's me. Wave. Hi!!!!!

            The unexamined life is not worth living

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              #81
              Let's meet in Chicago!

              I might be able to come to Chicago in October. My 7-week journey out of the country included an unexpected motorbike accident along with costs, and I'm having to sort a minimal teaching schedule so I can take care of my mom. Whah, whah, whah!!! The truth is, I usually find a way to do what I want to do, and I would LOVE to meet even and any small handful of my MWO mates.

              From the airport where I live I can get direct flights to exactly 4 cities, and Chicago is on the list. So count me in as a definite maybe.

              Re what to do - I agree, we have to eat, but why make the main gathering place around that? Could we find a "space" just to get together so we could introduce ourselves and talk as much or as little as we want to? Maybe some church would give us a meeting room if we let them know we are a bunch of recovering alcoholics . . . you know, our own little "meeting," according to our own interests and priorities. Or a big living room or a hotel meeting room?

              I'm much more interested in knowing and sharing what is relevant in our lives today than in knowing what is on a restaurant menu. We might even have tools, suggestions, practices, ideas to share with each other!?!?! That might best be done NOT in a restaurant.

              xo
              "Wherever you are is the entry point." --Kabir

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                #82
                Let's meet in Chicago!

                I am in the suburbs of Chicago, too! I would love to join you all if that is ok!
                "What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us." Ralph Waldo Emerson

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                  #83
                  Let's meet in Chicago!

                  RedThread12;1170262 wrote: I
                  Re what to do - I agree, we have to eat, but why make the main gathering place around that? Could we find a "space" just to get together so we could introduce ourselves and talk as much or as little as we want to? Maybe some church would give us a meeting room if we let them know we are a bunch of recovering alcoholics . . . you know, our own little "meeting," according to our own interests and priorities. Or a big living room or a hotel meeting room?

                  I'm much more interested in knowing and sharing what is relevant in our lives today than in knowing what is on a restaurant menu. We might even have tools, suggestions, practices, ideas to share with each other!?!?! That might best be done NOT in a restaurant.

                  xo
                  IMO, I think people would be terribly uncomfortable in such a situation. I certainly would. Like your own little AA (BAC) meeting. very unnatural and stifled. What would you do, wear stickers on you with your MWO name and your real name... stand around or sit around (on what, chairs, a table with nothing to eat or drink twiddly fingers) or "mingle"... just can't imagine it. It is my very strong opinion that such a gathering (in a church or meeting room) would not be successful at all. People need a social atmosphere, distractions like looking at menus and deciding what to order in between talking and getting to know each other.

                  Of course a private gathering at somebody's house would be good... in some ways -- but also seems a little forced to me -- some people know others much better than others do... and people who don't feel like part of the "in" crowd might be even less likely to attend. It would definitely definitely turn into a super nucleus insiders party. imho.

                  I don't know, I'm thinking out loud. Maybe I should just butt out since I won't be there, and you all can, and will, figure out whatever works best for you. I'd like to hope that my thoughts and experience might be helpful-- but the situation and circumstances this time are, of course, quite different.
                  Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life... And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.

                  Steve Jobs, Stanford Commencement Adress, 2005

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                    #84
                    Let's meet in Chicago!

                    A meeting just like that in meeting rooms around the world is my dream, beatle. We need each other. In person. No stigma, no bull shit, just a room full of us hanging out.
                    Universal Spirit! (US) I can't wait! and :H

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                      #85
                      Let's meet in Chicago!

                      Or maybe that's what this should be/will end up being, a small nucleus of people who already "know" each other and are comfortable with each. Maybe that's what it should be. Maybe people want to think about it.

                      I know I worry too much. But there is so much at stake with this kind of thing. I think some serious thought and planning is in order (especially for the sake of those who might travel far for it... although I suppose that would only be the people already in the in crowd, very comfortable with each other and will to make that commitment just to meet the others.
                      Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life... And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.

                      Steve Jobs, Stanford Commencement Adress, 2005

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                        #86
                        Let's meet in Chicago!

                        Ne/Neva Eva;1170905 wrote: A meeting just like that in meeting rooms around the world is my dream, beatle. We need each other. In person. No stigma, no bull shit, just a room full of us hanging out.
                        Universal Spirit! (US) I can't wait! and :H
                        I simply cannot envision it. All I can picture is the 3 AA meetings I have been to. Maybe you can elucidate on your picture?

                        Everyone is going to jump right in and hug each other and jump up and down and squeal, and then talk to each other in 2s and threes and in bigger groups, mingling all so naturally, and everyone will be comfortable, and it will be a wonderful experience for everyone. It sounds lovely (sort of), but my long experience and limited imagination make it impossible for me to envision it working for many people.

                        And remember, many of the people on here have severe social anxiety, not all are the type who would feel comfortable in such a situation. Arranging that kind of a situation would def leave most out who aren't already one of the inner krets.

                        Even feeling that I "know" some of the "in" crowd, I would not spend a lot of money if I knew that was what we were going to do.
                        Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life... And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.

                        Steve Jobs, Stanford Commencement Adress, 2005

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                          #87
                          Let's meet in Chicago!

                          btw, I'm seriously, VERY seriously trying to be of help here. I have experience and I have where I'm coming from, and yes, sigh, I have anxiety-- this time about how this experience will turn out for people who have a lot invested in it, Going with feel-good ideas about the universal spirit, and all will work out so well, is leaving an awful lot to fate. ... as I said, so much is at stake.

                          However, I have the feeling I am coming off as belligerent and irrelevant. I apologize.

                          (But I still think one person's dream scenario could be another's nightmare. Just saying)
                          Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life... And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.

                          Steve Jobs, Stanford Commencement Adress, 2005

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                            #88
                            Let's meet in Chicago!

                            And one more thing, if this is really all about just the "in" people, probably anything would work. But that would be excluding an awful lot of potential participants. OK, I'll shut up. You all do whatever you all want. I'd like pictures, though
                            Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life... And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.

                            Steve Jobs, Stanford Commencement Adress, 2005

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                              #89
                              Let's meet in Chicago!

                              I'm still definitely interested, but haven't mentioned that I work evenings, and always work on the weekends. I could find a way out to the suburbs, but would be at the mercy of Metra schedules and my job. Even if I can't attend, I would still love to see it happen. I understand Beatle's concerns, but I don't see anyone possibly being seriously harmed if it doesn't go well, whereas someone could really benefit if it does go well. Just saying...
                              "Yet someday this will have an end
                              All choices made or choice resigned,
                              And in your face the literal eye
                              Trace little of your history,
                              Nor ever piece the tale entire
                              Of villages that had to burn
                              And playgrounds of the will destroyed
                              Before you could be safe from time
                              And gather in your brow and air
                              The stillness of antiquity."

                              From "At Majority" by Adrienne Rich

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                                #90
                                Let's meet in Chicago!

                                I really promised myself not to get drawn back in, but I really don't agree that people will not be harmed if it doesn't go well.

                                Especially newer and more vulnerable people, and especially if they invest time and money in this.

                                For you newer and more vulnerable ones who live in the area, of course there is not much to lose. If it works out to be a good or great experience, well, hurrah; if it's not what you expected, or you feel uncomfortable or disappointed, fine, so you go home early.

                                But I guess at this point it will only be people who live in the area, plus a few of the "in" group veterans, who may travel from afar, who will be attending, so whatever my concerns are, they are not relevant to the current situation.

                                Now I'm really done, so just have fun, y'all ok?
                                Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life... And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.

                                Steve Jobs, Stanford Commencement Adress, 2005

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