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    Sassy, I will most certainly race you. I am at 100 mg because I couldn't follow the titration schedule with my job, and often had to go down because of the SEs. I go up to 120 mg tomorrow. I have now fallen off of Dr L's tit schedule not because I don't believe, but because of life. I have quit my job and I'm not independently wealthy. I only have so much time. I am now going to try to go up by 20 mg every 3 days. I am scared to do that. I am at 100 now and go up tomorrow, but I'm finally starting to feel good again on the 100 mg and now I'm going to throw my body off.

    Tracy, I sense that you are losing faith. I think you were on that AA thread for too long. :upset: I tried to go back and read today and again was dismayed. You my friend must be completely and utterly drained. It has a very negative vibe. Not, I hope what Otter was intending.

    I am forever trying to understand what the switch means for me. I guess I'll know when I get there. I do not consider having a drink or two to not have met the switch. Quite on the contrary. If bac really is a cure then we should be able to go out and live like normal people. Normal people have small amounts of alcohol in their life.

    In my last conversation with Dr L, we talked about what all this means for the rest of my life. We talked about the indifferance part. Whether or not I will ever be able to drink again. He said, I measure success by what society considers normal. Yes, you will be able to have an occasional drink. Normal people do. You may want to order a certain wine with dinner to bring out the taste of the food. That will be okay.

    Of course, he says that going under your switch dose for many people, will bring on relapse. So maybe these things are okay if at the switch dose, but become not okay when you start titrating down. I don't know. I'm going to play with it down the road and try to figure it out. At least for me anyway.
    This Princess Saved Herself

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      redhead77;1078848 wrote:
      Tracy, I sense that you are losing faith. I think you were on that AA thread for too long. :upset: I tried to go back and read today and again was dismayed. You my friend must be completely and utterly drained. It has a very negative vibe. Not, I hope what Otter was intending.
      I'm not really losing faith. Faith, in my mind, is believing in something despite evidence to the contrary. There is good reason to believe baclofen works. My own life right now - haven't been drunk in a couple weeks, I guess - that's proof to me. That thread - I don't think it was what Otter intended, but I don't think he understands AA. I did feel a little battered and pooped, but I'll probably start another one in the future. It's important for people who have been hurt by it.

      In my last conversation with Dr L, we talked about what all this means for the rest of my life. We talked about the indifferance part. Whether or not I will ever be able to drink again. He said, I measure success by what society considers normal.
      Oh, YES! I really like that! I don't give a hoot if I can or cannot have a glass of wine with dinner. That's not important to me. I just want not to particularly care if it's wine or if it's water or if it's iced tea. I wrote in my own thread that I don't want to be one of those people who is racing back here ten years from now saying, "This and that happened and I REALLY wanted to drink today." There is better than that out there, I know it. I want baclofen to be it. Between Ameisen's book and all the people here, I guess I had/have an expectation - and I want what I saw in the dang brochure!!! :H

      Of course, he says that going under your switch dose for many people, will bring on relapse.
      And I didn't mean to intone that relapse is the end of anything or even necessarily a bad thing. It's just something I would like to avoid. I've spent a lot of years in this hole. I'm seeing daylight. I want out! And, I'm really sorry if I made anyone feel bad. Not at all my intent.
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        Tracy, if the thread helps to reach out and help others find their way here (as I believe it was intended to do), then it has served a purpose. If even a few people then it's worth it. I know that's what you were trying to do and maybe there might be one on now who has found their way. :goodjob:

        I know you must be feeling a little pooped. You invested tons of time in this. You came with a wealth of great info. It is just an overall vibe I get. But, I'm not the one who needs to be convinced, I already know what AA can do (the side effects). I actually may be visiting later today. I can't stop thinking about a post related to pregnancy that I want to address. I slept on it and it bothers me more today. Class C drugs are used in pregnancy all the time. Anyway, I'm digressing. Just wanted you to know, that I think it's stellar that you are investing so much energy (even getting beat up at times), to get the info out there.
        This Princess Saved Herself

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          Oh, I forgot HAPPY ST PATRICK'S day everyone!! I've got my everyone loves an Irish girl tee and my lucky irish socks ready for the day. Corned beef will be cooking in a couple of hours.
          This Princess Saved Herself

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            News from the job front:

            As many of you know I resigned from my job last week to complete my bac journey. I just wanted to write a little update on recent developments. I have been offered not one job but three within my old healthcare system. I haven't even done anything but sit at home and TTDPs all day.

            The last offer has been the best by far. It is a work from home job that is considered full time with all the company perks.

            The good news: It is a 7 day on, 7 day off position. Leaves me with every other week totally free.
            The bad news: My 7 days on I'm doing night calls. That means I'm taking calls at night, giving "advice". I hear the volume of calls on the average night, does still allow for sleep.

            The good news: Since starting bac, I'm up half the night anyway. Now I'll have something constructive to do.
            The bad news: This job starts soon. They want to bring me in next week for formal interviews. Even though I have been offered the job, my company has a process that they won't deviate from. I really needed more time to hit the switch and titrate down before going back to work. Let alone learning a new job. I may now need to slow it down again.

            The good news: I was spending on daycare what some people spend on their mortgage, more even. I won't need daycare, maybe a few hours of babysitting for me to catch some zzzz's, but that's not half of it. I will also be home everyday when they come home from school, be able to always be here for them, ect.
            The bad news: There really isn't any as far as that goes.

            The good news: I won't be able to drink for 7 days in a row.
            The bad news: I won't be able to drink for 7 days in a row.

            I consider the good to out weigh the bad, but I'm a little disheartend by needing to slow this down again. Plus, I'll have to be careful on the days I interview next week with how much bac I have in my system. I just can't pass this one up. I would have never, even a month ago, considered being able to go 7 days without drinking. I would have had to pass on this great opportunity. Now, I think it's possible. I may have to exert some willpower since I haven't hit the switch, but I know I can do it.

            I took a huge leap of faith when I quit my job to follow this path. Turns out my intuition was right and what ever else I believe in. I just hope it is still right, with me taking this job, but possibly needing to slow it down. I figure, I can always go back up when I'm home working in my pj's. I don't actually think this job will be too hard mentally. I just can't seem like a space case when I'm learning the process.
            This Princess Saved Herself

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              redhead77;1080667 wrote:
              I won't need daycare, maybe a few hours of babysitting for me to catch some zzzz's, but that's not half of it. I will also be home everyday when they come home from school, be able to always be here for them, ect.

              I just can't pass this one up. I would have never, even a month ago, considered being able to go 7 days without drinking. I would have had to pass on this great opportunity. Now, I think it's possible. I may have to exert some willpower since I haven't hit the switch, but I know I can do it.

              I took a huge leap of faith when I quit my job to follow this path.
              Great news, Red, obviously you're well respected in your field and having the telecommuting opportunity is GOLDEN, I do it 95% of the time and speaking as one in her PJ's or sweats or shorts during that time, it is lovely and it will be so great for your kids. My own issue is that the line drawn between work and not work at home is gray, and I tend to work at odd hours because I have a whole room in my house dedicated to the job, and it beckons. Hopefully taking calls won't cause the same issue for you except maybe the paperwork - there's always paperwork, right. Which reminds me ...

              Following your instincts is serving you well, keep on keeping on!

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                As Bruun says, clearly you were a valued member of your profession!

                The phone consult sounds interesting. For me, I looked stoned, more than actually was stoned (although that was certainly present). I had to make some important decisions at that time, and looking back, they were the right ones, so baclofen didn't interfere with my cognitive ability. I actually think it gave me greater insight, but that's very subjective, so I leave it out.

                Just being able to work in pyjamas makes it worthwhile IMO. Also, taking advantage of the baclofen insomnia makes sense.

                Great news indeed, good luck

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                  And you can hide your Sagface if it happens.

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                    Wow Redhead, fantastic opportunity! I understand the whole baclofen and interviewing and learning new stuff thing. I hope you find your way through it and if you need to drop back on the baclofen you know you can always come back to it.

                    I mostly work from home and it has its pros and cons. You don't get stuck in traffic but you can end up working all hours because your office is always open. And if you don't bother getting dressed, make sure you put something on before you answer a knock at the door. My postman has been left emotionally scarred.

                    The unexamined life is not worth living

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                      Murphyx;1080996 wrote: My postman has been left emotionally scarred.
                      :H:H:H:H:H
                      I am a sobriety tart. AA/Smart/RR philosophy, meds/diet/exercise/prayer,rabbbits feet/four leaf clovers/horseshoes. Yes please.I will have them all thank you very much.Bring them on


                      There is no way the bottle is going to be stronger than I am.

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                        Red, what wonderful news! See where it takes you. It sounds close to an ideal situation for you. If you have to reduce the bac for a while, so be it. I thought it was very brave of you to leave your job, and look at the doors opened! I am so very happy for you. :l
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                          I have something to share. Everyone is talking about smoking and how much they may be reducing their nicotine intake. Not so with this girl. I used to be a social, closet smoker. Never smoking in the daytime, hiding it from everyone. Even most of my closest friends don't know I smoke. Taking it or leaving it.

                          Not now. Now I'm smoking like a pack a day. Maybe more. I have no idea what's happened and why my brain/body is craving nicotine so much. This has only happened since starting bac. I thought maybe since I was on wellbutrin as an AD, it does help people quit. I don't think so. I weaned off that before starting bac, and wasn't smoking more.

                          In my social circles I'm not sure what's worse, smoking or drinking too much. Not that I'm basing this on that, but it's a concern.

                          I have a house full of pharmaceuticals and I'm not thinking of taking more of them. But the cigarettes, they just keep on calling. This sucks!
                          This Princess Saved Herself

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                            I wouldn't panic red - while I have reported at high doses a decreased desire, this has in no way manifested in a reduced consumption. In fact, my smoking has also gone through the roof, to the point where I need to address it soon, or face some serious consequences!

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                              Me, too RedH. I have smoked a pack a day for 20 years. I quit smoking during the day (work hours) 3 years ago, still smoked a pack a day before and after work. (ugh and yuck.)

                              I smoke two packs or more now. It's unreal, actually. I have never understood how people can do that. Especially since smokers, as you pointed out, are more reviled in this country than alkies! I've even been unable to resist during the day, which is a real detriment...

                              And now they're studying it for smoking cessation? ha! good luck with that!

                              Thanks for the help yesterday.
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                              (bleep, all due respect, I lost the will to do most things at 300mg!)

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                                Am I one of the few non-smokers around here?I'm so glad I never started because I so know I'd have trouble stopping!

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