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    This Redhead's Baclofen Thread

    I'm on 150 mg a day. I too haven't found indifferance. I can still manage to drink my favorite red wine on a near daily basis. I'm just not drinking upwards of 2 bottles a day. Last night, I could not find any drink that tasted appealing. That's when I started thinking I might need to get creative if I'm going to manage a couple of hours out. Then I got to thinking about the foo drink chicks, and the various options they might have. Mudslide, hell no. But, I was thinking that maybe something fruity might taste good. I also forgot to eat dinner. That usually is a recipe for disaster I would go out drinking, and I usually like it, cause I can catch a quicker buzz. I just couldn't do it last night. All I wanted was a good meal.

    Speaking of good mexican food. We yankees have some good mexican food up in these parts too. At least in the metropolitan areas with a high number of hispanics. In the more remote northern towns, I think the only time you will get mexican food (pseudo), is if you make a run for the border (you know the infamous fast food place). I found this joint because I used to like me a good michelada for breakfast, on occasion. The food was an after thought. No more drinking my breakfast, so I haven't had a michelada in a while. :upset: Maybe one of these days, I'll have one with dinner.

    I really want to be Ne's sister. But I can't be the wicked witch. She has green skin and hideous yellow teeth. I know that may be me soon, if I don't get control of the smoking. I just never was a heavy smoker until I started bac. Eva. I think there is something going on with that. I hope that I will start to become my old self soon, and even not smoke at all. If not, I will do something about it. Thanks for the nicotine replacement suggestion HS.

    I know what you're saying Bleep about having fun. My days of having fun just because I go out drinking are numbered I think. I'm not saying, I won't have fun going out, and having a couple of drinks, it's just not going to be the center of everything. Which is why I think I'm on this forum and the bac journey.

    The inner rockstar is still there. I'm just trying to channel that energy in more positive ways.

    Part of the reason I think I wasn't having fun last night, is my alkie friend (you know the one I wrote about before?), was texting me that he is in big, big trouble. He got yet another DUI, on Friday night, and 3 felony charges. A resisting arrest and two assaulting police officer charges. He had just posted bail to get out the next day. I was like what? Why would you assault cops? He said, he was in a complete black out and he doesn't even remember it. I'm just appalled.

    He told me he's going to try to go to rehab. I texted him that he has no insurance (got fired for drinking), so how is he going to afford rehab? He then texted that he's going back to AA too. I guess some of this will no longer be a choice because now he's in the legal system. I would assume he will do some good jail time with 3 felony charges and another DUI. I can't even write how many he's had, it's too disturbing. I am hesitant to recommend bac again, at this point. If he does take it, he will have to titrate off when he goes to jail. So, my friend who used to be a bright man, with tons of potential, is now a low level drunk.
    This Princess Saved Herself

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      That's really shit news about your friend, red. And as you say, with prison time looming, baclofen isn't even an option anymore (how long does all this take?). Bring on the days when people get sentenced to baclofen treatment.

      now that you mention it, it rings a bell - nothing really hitting the spot, and having to cast the net out further in search of a satisfying drink. Then you find one, think "Aha, that's exactly it!" order it, and are disappointed to discover that no, it wasn't it after all.

      I suppose my inner rockstar is still there. He's entering his ballad phase it would seem. Gone are the crowd-surfing, stadium rousing anthems of yesteryear, which can only be a good thing!

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        I just sent him the book and 7 weeks to sobriety which I believe in too. I hadn't done it yet, because I've been kind of focused on myself getting well right now. Hope I didn't wait too long. He's going to need something to read in prison. :upset:


        EDIT: God I'm feeling guilty. I didn't leave him in a lurch. I told him three times about this website and the drug. He does have a computer. I just procrastinated on getting him the book, but if he won't go on here to read, why would he take the time to read the book? Just had to clarify.
        This Princess Saved Herself

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          Jesus, I wouldn't feel guilty - One of the things I am in firm agreement with AA (there aren't many), is that the individual concerned has to want to do something. It's unlikely in the extreme that you could have influenced this course of events.

          You spoke to him, you told him, you did your best, the rest was in his hands. And still is.

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            Bleepster, if there's such a thing as a codependent alcoholic, I just may be her. I think now their calling them counterdependent. Oh whatever. I know these are AA, and recovery terms, but I was raised in that environment. It's hard to kick.

            Although, I'm working on it, and haven't done anything to sabotoge myself getting better. I'm not neglecting myself to take care of him. Quite the opposite. I just feel a little guilt is all. It's going away, I know I gave him some tools. The one's I could give at the time.
            This Princess Saved Herself

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              I'm sorry to hear about your friend Red. But - what Bleep said. You have NOTHING to feel guilty about. None of us can "make" anyone see that they have a problem, and we can't "make" anyone do something about it.

              More than one person has completely turned their lives around after finally hitting their DUI / jail bottom. He can too.

              DG
              Sobriety Date = 5/22/08
              Nicotine Free Date = 2/27/07


              One day at a time.

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                redhead77;1084886 wrote: So, my friend who used to be a bright man, with tons of potential, is now a low level drunk.
                That breaks my heart, red. That is what frustrates me about the politics of bac. There is finally a treatment that shows real promise, and for whatever reason it is still widely unknown. Meanwhile, people like your friend (good people with a bad disease) are dropping like flies.

                If I wasn't a macho cowboy who keeps his feelings all bottled up inside, I would cry.
                Look at a stone cutter hammering away at his rock, perhaps a hundred times without as much as a crack showing in it. Yet at the hundred-and-first blow it will split in two, and I know it was not the last blow that did it, but all that had gone before.
                - Jacob August Riis

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                  Redhead, I'm so sorry about your friend, that is devastating. We will keep hoping he can have some sober time after this event, somehow, maybe due to the law's keeping him sober.

                  I relate a tiny bit - I had a great close friend twenty years ago, that I've looked for and looked for ever since. I changed jobs (he and I worked at the same place, he had been to rehab once at that point). Loved him, we were great friends, but when I left I didn't keep in touch probably, my new job was pretty overwhelming. Then I tried to find him and called about 30 people in the interet listings to see if it was him, no dice. I still worry for him.

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                    UPDATE UPDATE!!!!!! I found out how the other half lives (and clean their bottoms)!!!!

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCqvjTF8Gn4[/video]]YouTube - Japanese Toilet Fun!

                    For you cat lovers and haters, here's a cat (on baclofen) on the toilet! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Zs6-Ujzrn8&NR=1&feature=fvwp[/video]]YouTube - cat on toilet ( funny at the end )

                    Okay, yes, I am without plans tonight and on a diet and AF, so does that explain this post? I am chairwoman of the BORED.

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                      Unreal! No massage function? What a piece of crap.

                      That was probably only a 3 star hotel.

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                        (apologies in advance for the length of this...)

                        Your friend, RedH... I'm so sorry.
                        When my husband got his DUI (also assaulted a cop in a blackout... very unlike him. totally surreal experience) his boss helped us out financially AND saved him his job.

                        Fast forward 5 years. Boss, now moved on, but still a friend, has a wife who drinks like me. Through her pregnancy. The works. They're getting divorced. She calls my husband to ask for money, we're unclear why, it seems like some sort of power thing with soon-to-be-ex, the former boss. We agonize over it and decide we can't get involved. A month later she is driving home after a bar on the DC beltway and she clips the back of a truck and kills two men. (upstanding men, by all accounts. Recent immigrants, on way home from third job, with 7 kids between them and a host of relatives they help to support.) She leaves the scene, has another accident and is now serving 10years or more for manslaughter, and all the rest too.

                        I also know a LOT of dead people because of this disease. I won't list them here, because we all have similar stories.
                        I am clear, though, that the prognosis for people like me when left untreated is devastation for many, many people. And/or death by choice.

                        I understand your guilt, pain and grief. My own, and yours vicariously, make me cry and moan in anguish.
                        I don't have to follow that path, though, and neither do you. We can go on to testify and support and help. No codependency needed. No anger, indignation or self-righteousness necessary. (though sometimes useful?)

                        You are my sister. I'll be the green one. I rather like her. (In fact, I just bought a new journal with her on the cover. LOVE it.) Only real exception I have with her is that she melts from a little water. please. It takes a lot of well-fermented and distilled water to take this woman down, and that evil brew is gone for good, thank you very much.

                        glad you're still taking the pills.
                        :ls and :h
                        Ne
                        the new av is for you. (Have you read the Maguire version? Who's the evil one now? lol)

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                          The guilt is forever gone and has been replaced by anger. He neglected to tell me something. He refused to blow, so they brought him into the hospital for a BAL. He is also being charged for his behavior at the hospital. Of course he didn't tell me what the charges are. If he assaulted a healthcare worker that is another felony. One has to be really crazy for a healthcare worker to press charges. Assaulting cops is one thing. They're used to it and trained to handle it. An innocent healthcare worker? This reminds me of the men that say they were in a "blackout" when they beat the shit out of their wives. I'm not buying it!

                          So on he goes. I only heard bits and pieces at this point, I was already done. He tells me about the attorneys he's thinking of retaining to help get the sentence reduced. He can't afford the one he wants cause he has a 10,000 retainer. I asked what happened to all your retirement money you cashed out? I did know how much he had. He's pissed through it in a couple of months. I guess he's trying to put Charlie Sheen to shame. Clearly, he has an enormous drug problem too.

                          When he was going on an on about trying to avoid prison all I could think is, I hope no judge is going to go easy on you. You NEED to go to prison. You deserve it. How many DUI's can a person get before they decide that if AA isn't working, I really need to figure out what will?

                          I have come to the determination that I may not like this man anymore. This isn't tough love. It just is. Enormous character flaws are not excusable by drinking and drugging. I'm no longer going to worry about it. And enough of my blog has been taken up by a discussion of him!

                          Back to the bac discussion. I've been having some weird things happen when I'm sleeping. I'll wake up and think my kids are crying for me like they're in trouble. It seems so real. I'll be halfway down the hall before I realize they aren't even home. The last I guess it's a hallucination, I woke up and smelled burning. I thought something was burning in my house. It only lasted about 10 seconds before I was fully awake and realizing that all was okay. This SE, is the most troubling one I've had so far and happening on an almost daily basis now. Will this stop soon? I can't imagine dealing with this every night.
                          This Princess Saved Herself

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                            I had a version of that red. Just confusion, in one form or another upon waking up. It's pretty dose dependent, although every now and again it still happens. Provided it's not an alarming confusion (like thinking your house is on fire), it's actually pretty enjoyable. These days I laugh at myself.

                            A few night ago I thought I woke up in a dormitory full of dignitaries at the UN. It took me about 5 minutes to get quietly dressed in the dark, being careful not to wake any of the other dignitaries up. When finally I was dressed, I turned my lamp on and discovered I was alone in my hotel room. Felt a bit foolish for a while, but it felt so real at the time.

                            At a particular dose (I'm not sure what level) it would happen every time I awoke, so take heart, it shouldn't happen consistently for too much longer.

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                              I hear you Redhead.Once an alcoholic is trying something eg Bac/Tsm/AA whatever then I would support them forever but I dont get the ones who wont try.My OH has a cousin who is in trouble too. I told him about MWO and offered to loan him my copy of OA's book.He shrugged.I told him no one was dragging him off to rehab. I also told him that if he was interested I would help him with my credit card to order the drugs online.He left to think about it and when I asked him again a few weeks later he said he forgot about it.That nearly blew my mind.I would have chewed someones arm off if they had offered me that.He is now up in front of a judge again soon(3rd time) and prison is a possibility too.Why wont people like that try? I just dont get it.Anyway I lost patience and mentally I have written him off. Im sorry to hear about the nighttime creepy stuff. Your responsibilities as a mother are obviously playing on your mind. I take my hat off to all you women who are trying to get sober and deal with kids at the same time. I couldn't do it.
                              I am a sobriety tart. AA/Smart/RR philosophy, meds/diet/exercise/prayer,rabbbits feet/four leaf clovers/horseshoes. Yes please.I will have them all thank you very much.Bring them on


                              There is no way the bottle is going to be stronger than I am.

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                                bleep;1085372 wrote:

                                A few night ago I thought I woke up in a dormitory full of dignitaries at the UN. It took me about 5 minutes to get quietly dressed in the dark, being careful not to wake any of the other dignitaries up. When finally I was dressed, I turned my lamp on and discovered I was alone in my hotel room. .
                                Will I go to hell for laughing?
                                I am a sobriety tart. AA/Smart/RR philosophy, meds/diet/exercise/prayer,rabbbits feet/four leaf clovers/horseshoes. Yes please.I will have them all thank you very much.Bring them on


                                There is no way the bottle is going to be stronger than I am.

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