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    This Redhead's Baclofen Thread

    Wheee!! :whee: Such a great post, Red. I'm glad you woke up this morning with renewed hope and energy for life. I've been feeling that way on a daily basis for awhile now, and yet your post still lifted me up. :l

    As for the titrating down, oddly enough I found that the beneficial SEs returned on my way down. I did 10mgs every 2 days and it worked out beautifully. I still go up and down with my sweet spot. Well, not the AL indifference, that's there whether I'm at 80 or 120, but I like the good SEs so damn much that I do tend to chase them a bit! So I might go up and down by 60mgs over the course of a few weeks. That's the great thing about bac, so long as we're responsible with the titration, we can play with the dose to find what works best for us.

    Funny you mention Bronkaid. I just took some this morning, though not because I'm having any issues with wheezing. I'm not making illegal street drugs out of it, but I got it for the ephedrine for when I'm dealing with the backlash from insomnia! I couldn't find it in a pharmacy anywhere around here, so I ordered it from Drugstore.com and had to fax them a copy of my driver's license before they would ship it.
    Hope it helps with your wheezing though, supposedly it's really fantastic for that! Good luck quitting smoking, I know it's one of the toughest things there is to do.

    Glad you're ok with not going back to school right now. Sometimes I get something stuck in my head that I have to do, like, right now. And I get all stressed about it. And then I realize, it's ok, it can wait, I can relax. Whatever it is will still be there when I'm ready.

    I also was over a year late for my last doctor's checkup! He was none too pleased with me, but he got over it, AND prescribed me baclofen! Before I read all of the concerns here about AL use going on your medical record, I'd talked to him about it in order to try Topamax a couple of years ago. I don't know if he'll ever be open to trying bac with other patients of his, but who knows, maybe he'll see how great it's working for me when I have my next check up in a couple of months.

    I haven't chimed in on your thread much (was kind of quiet for awhile in general), but I am really glad that you're deciding to stick around here, especially through all of the bullshit of recent weeks.
    Murph's right - all of these big changes in your life right now are a HUGE opportunity for you to create the life that you want for yourself. I went through a lot of big scary changes recently too, and I'm so much happier now than I was, I can't even believe I was scared to move forward. You sound like you're in a perfect headspace for what's coming up in your life (and you're sober!!). You'll do great! :h
    Better Living Through Chemistry

    Switched at 180mgs of Baclofen on 1/31/11, and again on 10/8/11 at 200mgs.

    Could've been a swan on a glassy lake, could've been a gull in a clipper's wake. Could've been a ladybug on a windchime, but she was born a dragonfly.
    ~Clutch

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      This Redhead's Baclofen Thread

      Great post Red, really nice to see you in such a positive frame of mind!

      You may find that simply dropping 20mg's is enough to remove most SE's. If it's not, and you feel you have to get all drastic about it, I have dropped by 100mg's in a day before with no ill effects, so you are okay on that front. Try the 20mg reduction though, you may be pleasantly surprised.

      Personally, I never saw the point in lying to my doctor. He's the guy who I have made responsible for my wellbeing. He is also a complete stranger, so I don't care what he thinks of me. I understand you have larger issues to consider, which I never thought of, so I am not sure how to tie that in together.

      I forgot to mention on my thread, about smoking - I never take smokes up into the mountains, so it's 4 days of forced abstinence. I am going to try use it give up, so we'll be together in that. Best of luck, I have tried to give up several times in the past. It's a real bitch, but we'll manage!

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        Hey Redh,

        Wow, what a difference a dose makes, congrats on how well you're feeling in spite of big challenges in your life! It wasn't that long ago that you were having a binge and in despair, now you're all turned around. Impressive work!

        It's nice to see all the supportive posts too. I would agree with Moglor to ignore the negative stuff, not one of us has been unharmed here, whether it's inadvertent or misunderstandings or stupid people, doesn't matter. I think most of us can say we've made mistakes in posts or they didn't sound as nice as we thought they would (everyone knows emails are dangerous, you have to really be careful how you sound because there is no visual/audio context for the wording). The most innocuous sentence can sound harsh, without a smile following it. I guess emoticons have a place - although their over-use makes me nauseous! :H

        So sorry to hear about your mom's books, that would hurt alot. Maybe they can be restored? Or maybe that's just too much extra stuff to add to what is already going on. Hope the SEs go away soon.

        :l

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          Red,

          You know I'm one of your biggest fans . . .still waiting for my switch. I just LOVE reading your posts, updates, life-changes. It keeps me going.

          Thank you:thanks:

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            Sassy, what dose are you on now? Do you think you're close to the switch? Are you having horrendous side effects?
            This Princess Saved Herself

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              redhead77;1109582 wrote: I woke up today with new clarity, focus, and drive. I'm FREEEEEEEE!! Free from all the baggage in my life. The shit that was weighing me down. Him, the enormous house, and the booze. What more could I ask for?Yeahhhhhh baby!

              redhead77;1109582 wrote: I hope ALL men aren't pricks, I may want a new model some day. Maybe your projecting Murph? :H
              Probably.

              SassyLassy;1110132 wrote:
              Red,

              You know I'm one of your biggest fans . . .
              Me too.

              The unexamined life is not worth living

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                Red,

                Don't want to hijack your thread, but thank you for asking...I'm at 250 right now. Biggest side effects that bother me: water weight gain/edema. MY FEET ARE ROUND!! This is just in the last week or 2. I've taken to wearing support hose to keep from having completely unidentifiable ankles! Haven't had any AF days, so that may be holding me up. Wanting, wishing, waiting

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                  Sassy, how much water are you drinking? Baclofen does weird stuff to the kidneys, and I find I can abate most of the SEs simply by drinking a ton of water, as in 2-3 gallons/day. Yes, I pee constantly. It's really important to keep your water intake high to flush the insane amounts of bac we take out of the kidneys.

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                    SassyLassy;1111614 wrote: I'm at 250 right now. Biggest side effects that bother me: water weight gain/edema. MY FEET ARE ROUND!! This is just in the last week or 2. I've taken to wearing support hose to keep from having completely unidentifiable ankles! Haven't had any AF days, so that may be holding me up. Wanting, wishing, waiting
                    Yowza, Sassy! Good on you! (just for keeping going, I mean. 250mg was no joke in my experience!) You going to come on and start sharing your experience somewhere?

                    moglor;1111690 wrote:
                    Sassy, how much water are you drinking? Baclofen does weird stuff to the kidneys, and I find I can abate most of the SEs simply by drinking a ton of water, as in 2-3 gallons/day. Yes, I pee constantly. It's really important to keep your water intake high to flush the insane amounts of bac we take out of the kidneys.
                    Alright. There's something somewhere about lowered sodium, I think. This is a stretch on my part. Maybe someone with an inclination/time for research can suss it out. But I wonder if lowered sodium might be part of the problem with SEs? A big part, even? w/o going into too much boring detail, my last blood test showed dramatically low sodium. I've had something like 5 full blood panels in the last year. First time it showed up. I made the connection in a couple of other ways, that are embarrassing to admit...
                    Anyway. Watch the sodium with that much water. Low sodium levels can cause pretty dramatic results.
                    Again, complete conjecture on my part and I'm not a med, blah blah

                    Hiya, Red!

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                      I experienced a lot of puffiness and water retention whilst on baclofen. I wasn't sure if it was the junk food I kept comfort eating, or not but did try and drink as much water as I could.

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                        SassyLassy;1111614 wrote: Red,

                        Don't want to hijack your thread, but thank you for asking...I'm at 250 right now. Biggest side effects that bother me: water weight gain/edema. MY FEET ARE ROUND!! This is just in the last week or 2. I've taken to wearing support hose to keep from having completely unidentifiable ankles! Haven't had any AF days, so that may be holding me up. Wanting, wishing, waiting
                        Hey sassy, I had nasty edema too for a while. So much so that I dropped a BP Med, norvasc (a calcium channel blocker that also causes edema) permanently. The edema was periodic from around 100-200 or so lasting for 10-14+ days at a time. It passed and has never returned post switch. Sorry redhead for continuing the hijack. Glad to hear that things are starting to shape up for you -tk
                        TerryK celebrates 6 years of sobriety and indifference to alcohol thanks to baclofen

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                          I have taken several of my posts over time and copy/pasted them into Sassy's Bac Journey...don't know how to post a link.
                          Sassy's bac journey

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                            Guys, guys, don't worry about any hijacks. I never mind and I'm always happy to host.

                            I had decreased my bac dose to 180 mg. I'm now on 140, or sometimes less, because I forget to take it. I had forgotten a few doses a couple days ago, and I woke up in the night with something I've forgotten. Horrible anxiety. I had a massive panic attack. I popped some bac that night, and more in the morning and am back on track now.

                            I have been stupendously busy. Once I came down in dose, and could again function, I'm finding I have soooo much work around here. It's a good thing. I had spring clean up in my neighborhood last friday. It's where the waste management company picks up whatever you want, and it's free for removal. Bonus. I went through tons of stuff and got rid of it. I even found tons of empty hidden bottles, I could pitch. I know, I'm super cool aren't I? Don't judge. I'll bet some of you have been there too. I couldn't help it. I can only put out so many recycle bins of bottles. As it is, as the only adult living in this house, I would have 3 bins of recyclables every week. Oh, what the neighbors must have thought.

                            I'm still waiting to work. Geez. I had to get titres of my immunization levels, and I'm waiting for the results. Since I was immunized in 76 and 77, and my old pediatrician is dead, they are making me have all this blood work. It's taking foreva! I did get offered a contract. In my old and true specialty. All these contracts are temporary, but that's how I want it. I don't want to get tied down in a job that I have to quit, when it's time to move. I no longer want to live in this desperate suburb. These people are stuck up and the houses are too big. Go figure.

                            I started this post this am. I've been enjoying the day (it's sunny and hot), emailing big Daddy, and then coming back here. Yes, I'm corresponding with Daddy again. And this is the last time I'm calling him that, I mean that you'll know about. I couldn't help it. I watched CL to see if he's a serial poster. It turns out a ton of these guys are. They hope to catch the woman who jumps on to see, and gets curious and answers something. Like I did. He was posting. Two weeks in a row, he wrote posts to me. I mean not with my name, but so I would know it. How attractive is that? :h I'm still not rushing anything. I'm a sensible woman. Sometimes! :H

                            All in all, things are looking good. When I don't mess with my pills too much. Or forget to take them.

                            Have a wonderful day my lovelies.

                            Redhead
                            This Princess Saved Herself

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                              Oh, and I quit smoking. For one day. Sigh. I am going to quit again this week. I just need a little assistance. The cold turkey thing isn't cutting it. Call me a wimp if you want. I don't care. The good news is, now that my bac dose is down, I'm way under a pack a day naturally. Not that I intend to stay there. I just couldn't do it without a little assistance, ya know?
                              This Princess Saved Herself

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                                Alas Red! Did you not find baclofen to be of any assistance in the smoking department? I'm finding it to be... helpful? Not sure if it is or not, but I'm taking any help I can get. I know what you mean about needing assistance.

                                There are drugs you can look to, but whether they sit well on top of high dose baclofen I have no idea. Personally, I just got it into my head that baclofen would help, and I'm going with that, whether it's true or not!

                                Watch out with forgetting doses. A couple here and there don't matter, but continual swings in my dose put me in a very odd head space! Your updates are cool to read, you seem to be adjusting really well to indifference. It's helpful to see it happening, it's something that I still try to deal with, so thanks.

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