This Redhead's Baclofen Thread

[Ne/Neva Eva]

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It's a fine line Red. I felt I had to pay close attention to my body. Avoid withdrawing, avoid over-doing-it.
I'm not a vomit-er, so I can tell something is really wonky when I vomit, for example. Too much bac for me! and too much bac/booze, for sure.

Dizzy? ha. yeah, comes with the territory.

Dr. L told me not to make up the dose if it was too close to the next one. No middle of the night stuff, for me. "making it up" is a ride for sure, and I've had some interesting experiences. But I would humbly suggest you stay the course with forethought and planning.

You know how to take meds, of course. This one is no different.
More later, maybe.
take good care, treat your body and mind gently today.
xo

[Ne/Neva Eva]

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bac is not an excuse to get drunk, it turns out.
And getting drunk/laid is definitely not a good excuse to miss a dose. Try very hard not to do it again. That's not humble or a suggestion. It's sound advice.

[redhead77]

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Thanks for the lecture Ne. I think I stated that I felt shame. I don't need a lecture on my life, and for that matter, I rarely get out. The chance of this happening again before I find the switch is unlikely. What I do need is some advice on how to get back on track today. Stay the course, reduce my dosage. Whatever.

[TracyA]

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Red, it sounds like you've had a horrible weekend! :l

You need to take enough bac so that you do not go into withdrawal, but otherwise, be very gentle with yourself today. One thing I read from Sober was that the half-life of bac doubles when you are on a higher dose - so (probably not accurate but will give you the general idea), half of what you took eight hours ago is still with you. I would guess if you try to cram more, you are just overdoing because a whole bunch is still in your bloodstream. It's okay to go easy; I think it's the wise thing to do.

And, all the other stuff, take a hot bath, eat well, lots of fluids, no bungie-jumping, good day to sit home and watch videos. I have a subscription to Netflix and will happily send my log-in by PM if you want.

It sounds like it's been a sucky weekend for a lot of people.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

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redhead77;1075715 wrote: Thanks for the lecture Ne. I think I stated that I felt shame. I don't need a lecture on my life, and for that matter, I rarely get out. The chance of this happening again before I find the switch is unlikely. What I do need is some advice on how to get back on track today. Stay the course, reduce my dosage. Whatever.

Stay the course.

Sheesh. I'm an idiot sometimes. often, apparently. I'm really sorry you feel so badly and I apologize for being so abrasive.
I feel the same way, today.
Shame dissipates. and it gets easier as you move on.
There is hope immeasurable in this treatment.
Stay the course my friend.
:l

[TracyA]

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Ne, I think I'm the idiot in the group. I seem to offend people here left and right, with zero intent. What a lousy morning, for so many of us. I'm going to go play Sly Cooper now. Sly always like me, even which I get him killed, he comes back for more with no resentment. I need a big boss to defeat!

Hugs all around.

[redhead77]

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Thanks Tracy for the advice and I really need to look into netflicks.
Ne, it's not really in your character to give verbal lashings. I assumed that other powers that be were giving you advice to reign me in. Maybe they should give me a verbal lashing themselves.

I shouldn't have used the work "secret" to explain my rock star behavior. Maybe repressed would be a better word. I never had any intention of going out and behaving that way. I meant to get out for a bit and come home. Of course, maybe I shouldn't have picked this particular group to join for my very rare night out. They are notoriously out of control. I believe this will be the last time I join them. Indifferance only goes so far and I'm not sure that I want to be hanging with people who spend their weekends in a haze of drugs and booze. Soon, I would assume I wouldn't even like to.

Maybe I have done a better job of explaining how I feel about it. I didn't mean to make light of my atrocious behavior. As far as the shame dissipating. I'm not sure that it should.

[redhead77]

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Thanks Tracy for the advice and I really need to look into netflicks. I really admire your sprout btw.

Ne, it's not really in your character to give verbal lashings. I assumed that other powers that be were giving you advice to reign me in. Maybe they should give me a verbal lashing themselves.

I shouldn't have used the work "secret" to explain my rock star behavior. Maybe repressed would be a better word. I never had any intention of going out and behaving that way. I meant to get out for a bit and come home. Of course, maybe I shouldn't have picked this particular group to join, for my very rare night out. They are notoriously out of control. I believe this will be the last time I join them. Indifferance only goes so far and I'm not sure that I want to be hanging with people who spend their weekends in a haze of drugs and booze.

Maybe I have done a better job of explaining how I feel about it. I didn't mean to make light of my atrocious behavior. As far as the shame dissipating, I'm not sure that it should.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

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Ha. There are no other powers in my living room, save the Goose and she doesn't really care about bac. Though I'm thinking about slipping some into her kibble. Might make her a little less neurotic. She doesn't, however, have a drinking problem. I'd also hate to have to explain to the vet what I gave her and that I gave it to her because she drives me crazy when the wind blows. (literally. my dog is scared of the wind.)

I digress.

I do in fact give verbal lashings very effectively. I can actually be a total bitch. But that was not my intention. At ALL. I think I was talking to myself, I'm sorry that it was directed at you. I apologize, truly, for that.

Shame, no shame, it makes no nevermind in the scheme of things. I've given it up for lent. (ha. kidding of course) Really I find it's not very useful atm, so I'm not giving it any play. Maybe to my own detriment. Time will tell. God knows, I'm having a hard time stringing thoughts together for this post!

Tracy, sigh, me too sister. I don't know who Sly is but will google later if I can remember. I think you're doing just fine, btw, fwiw. (not even a pound of radishes. trust me.)

back to bed for Ne. again. :upset:
jkttp! Thanks Low. again.
Ne

[Ne/Neva Eva]

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I don't actually know what your atrocious behavior was, but those days are surely numbered as well. I'm quite sure that the people on this forum would be very good at one-upping us on the atrocious behavior when drunk/drugged front.
And, yes, most people who drug/drink are not that interesting, imo. Except me. lol. and you and the others around here. WE are fabulous and saintly and very, very funny. (???!!!)
hugs.

[Bruunhilde]

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Hey Red, I've got great news, cheese danish is GREAT for removing the taste of shame and bitterness from your mouth.

Seriously, be sweet to yourself, life is about learning, and a month ago I was feeling the exact same way. I can't say I'm happy as a lark these days, but my drinking seems to be more controlled (although I'm concerned about why, more on my thread so as to not hijack yours). And because I'm drinking less, and part of why I'm drinking less is I'm eating MORE, I don't want the AL because I'm full of pastries. There's such a connection with the sugar! But I'm not sure its enough to make someone stop (RX = pastries for dinner = no AL problem! Easy squeezy). I wish.

So if I was in your shoes, which I have been for years at a time, the day after, I'd need to hear these words, which today are for you: You aren't a bad person, you are obviously loved (you have choices of groups of friends!), you are not as bad off as some of us because you can go out and have a wild night, so you have lots of time to heal and learn and get better. It's OKAY. Tomorrow will be better. Stop focusing on regrets, they will just pull you deeper into the abys. Focus on a better tomorrow with bac or whatever will help you stay above the inner rock star. hope this doesn't come off as preachy, I'm just trying to send pockets of love here....

One thing I've learned is the worst lows are the biggest teachers. Everytime I think about having lots of martinis and wine with the group, like the old days, I think about the last few times I binged and I could barely breathe, much less keep water down, and thought I was dying. Not to mention the not remembering what I said and did.... cute when you're 20 maybe (that's a BIG maybe), but not when you're 40. In fact, what I thought was cute was really just horny guys paying attention because I was hot. If I wasn't hot, they'd have let me rot in the corner. Just look around any bar, it happens all the time with all the girls and boys.

You're on the right path, you'll be okay, be kind to yourself.

And Tracy, you're a doll, why would anyone ever be mad at you?

[redhead77]

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Bruun,

It doesn't sound preach at all. In fact, it is very encouraging. I agree, who could be mad at Tracy? I probably missed something, even though I spend a great deal of time (too much?), on these threads lately.

I have been reading your thread. I know you're trying to lose weight and struggling with blood sugar issues. I too have them. I don't want to sound preachy either, but too many carbs will only make it worse. I know your body is screaming for them, but it might just keep the cycle going.

Maybe something you could look up if you ever have a chance is the anticandida diet. I couldn't lose weight after my last kid and then I went on this diet and I lost 30 lbs. Not only did I lose the weight but my skin looked fabulous and my hair was lustrous and thicker! For real. Mainstream medicine doesn't believe in candida (except for severe infections), but I have had lots of issues with it. It is without a doubt real, imo. It is a diet that avoids all sugar, many starches, gluten, and dairy. Plus, it is best to take natural antifungals and probiotics. Candida and alcoholism go hand in hand. It can make one crave alcohol and starches. I'll try to post a link later on your thread if you want me to.

Okay back to a horizontal body position and a few mindless I Love Lucy reruns.

P.S. I really don't want you to stop posting around here. I think that would be a great loss. :l

[Bruunhilde]

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Hey Redhead, I know all about candida, I eradicated it about four years ago. This eating the carbs is an anomaly, I normally don't eat anything bad except chocolate. And the occasional organic tater. Nothing fried, nothing like eclairs and pasta. In fact, it had been so long since I'd had any kind of pasta, I think I kinda got sick on it.

This carb loading has it's own purpose in a bigger picture including a low glycemic diet, nothing to worry about, you just take care of yourself.

[redhead77]

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Why does that not surprise me Bruun? Of course you know about it. We seem to have a lot of same thoughts regarding diet and nutrition. I hear your message and I appreciate it. I will take care of me. I also agree with the getting drunk at 40, or 35 in my case. I think I needed a hiatus and it will be my last. I'm not quite sure what made me go so crazy the other night, but it's over now.

The inner rock star is being put down.

I'm going to go get my kids now. Man oh man do I miss them. Time to behave and be mom again.

[Bruunhilde]

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You go, princess, have a loving night with the lovely kids.