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    This Redhead's Baclofen Thread

    Hi red, been awol for a bit so have missed a lot. I won't chime in on the guilt bit, others have summed up my feelings very well there.

    Regarding the dosage, there's no real point, I don't think, in catching the dose up. I would just start your normal dosage again. That being said, it's probably a good thing that you just jumped back into it, and now that the horrible SE's have abated, you are hopefully back on track.

    Sorry for the delayed response, this advice is probably redundant.

    I too am a rock-star, I just haven't written the songs yet. I can usually put the best rock-stars to shame with my behavior. Unfortunately, because I haven't written the songs, the groupies don't know about me yet...

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      bleep;1075967 wrote: I too am a rock-star, ... the groupies don't know about me yet...
      yes you are, and yes we do. I'm officially coming out as a bleep-groupie.

      And Red, what bruun said. Wish I'd channeled that instead of hungover-harpy-Ne this morning.

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        I have a close friend whose a physician. I came out to him about the extent of my drinking right before I went to see Dr L. He was of course concerned and VERY concerned about me taking high doses of bac for it. I asked him to come with me to the appt, and he wanted to, but he was leaving that day. He's from another country and going home on holiday. While he was away, he texted me a couple times asking how I was and how my drinking was going. I told him the truth, that it had decreased, due to baclofen. He's home now. He won't ask me about the drinking or bac. I'm not sure why.

        I think I need to convert him somehow. He's a prescribing MD in my country. I'm not of course expecting him to prescribe high dose bac to us alkies, but power comes in numbers. If I can make him believe, he might tell his colleagues. The more physicians that believe, the better it will be for all of us. I just have to figure out how to get there.
        This Princess Saved Herself

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          Red, you could always go two-pronged on your approach to get him at least thinking about it. There are studies about lower dose bac on addiction so you could discuss that as well as the high dose. Maybe he will start listening to the one and eventually open his mind over time to the other.

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            Bruunhilde;1077841 wrote: Red, you could always go two-pronged on your approach to get him at least thinking about it. There are studies about lower dose bac on addiction so you could discuss that as well as the high dose. Maybe he will start listening to the one and eventually open his mind over time to the other.
            That is excellent advice. That is similar to how I won my doc over. He was already prescribing low doses of bac. I gave him a copy of Dr A.'s book, some other research material I had pulled together, and gave him Dr L's number. I left his office with a scrip for 4000 mgs and an appointment in two weeks. On the return visit I left with a scrip for 7200 mgs and another appointment.

            And there are other sneaky ways to stockpile bac.
            Look at a stone cutter hammering away at his rock, perhaps a hundred times without as much as a crack showing in it. Yet at the hundred-and-first blow it will split in two, and I know it was not the last blow that did it, but all that had gone before.
            - Jacob August Riis

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              (I haven't kept up with mwo, so this is an aside to whatever is going on right now. Hope it's not completely inappropriate!)

              This has really been bothering me Red. Your response to my posts after your horrible night... I felt terrible. (still do and I'm sorry.)
              BUT it occured to me in one of my middle-of-the-night light-bulb-moments that you didn't see the first post. The second one said, don't forget the bac, etc... The first was this:

              Ne/Neva Eva;1075708 wrote: It's a fine line Red. I felt I had to pay close attention to my body. Avoid withdrawing, avoid over-doing-it.
              I'm not a vomit-er, so I can tell something is really wonky when I vomit, for example. Too much bac for me! and too much bac/booze, for sure.

              Dizzy? ha. yeah, comes with the territory.

              Dr. L told me not to make up the dose if it was too close to the next one. No middle of the night stuff, for me. "making it up" is a ride for sure, and I've had some interesting experiences. But I would humbly suggest you stay the course with forethought and planning.

              You know how to take meds, of course. This one is no different.
              More later, maybe.
              take good care, treat your body and mind gently today.
              xo
              If you saw it, I'm sorry for being redundant. If you didn't, well, see? I'm not such a cad! whew.
              Still, the second post was callous, in it's timing. I've made the mistake too many times and often felt the repercussions for days afterward.
              And one last thing to clear up: At some point I said something about Low. The reason was most likely that it's because I wrote "thank you, Low" after I wrote "jkttp". That's because he's the first to have used that. (Just Keep Taking The Pills).
              Hmmmm. maybe that wasn't you?
              Anyway dinner is probably burning.
              xo, again!
              Ne
              xo
              Stay the course! (i know you will)

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                I understand Ne. I understand all of it. Yes, I saw the first post. It was comforting. Then I read a completely different one, that was not comforting. So, YOU were telling me something, and I heard it. The problem is, I already felt like shit about my bender. But we have it all worked out now so there is nothing to worry about. Okay? xxoo :h
                This Princess Saved Herself

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                  Like a chapter in my life.

                  Sing to the tune of "Memories" by Barb.

                  Misunderstandings,
                  such confusion fills my mind,
                  Misery morning I have no memory
                  of the things I did

                  Scattered pictures,
                  Of the tears we left behind
                  Scars we gave to one another
                  For the way we were
                  Can it be that we were all so drunken then?
                  Or has wine re-written every line?
                  If we had the chance to do it all again
                  Tell me, would we? Could we?

                  Martinis may seem ecstatic and yet
                  What's too painful to remember
                  We simply choose to forget

                  So it's the laughter
                  We MUST remember
                  Whenever we remember...
                  The way we were...
                  with no regret...
                  :heart:

                  My thought here is (parden the butcher of said song) is that we spent so much time regretting and misunderstanding, it reminds me of most of my adult life. My future years will be different, I'm determined. Yours will too. May we all remain friends in soberville.

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                    Bruun, Ne, Red, Everyone,

                    I love you guys...:l



                    Lady
                    The hardest arithmetic to master is that which enables us to count our blessings.

                    *Don't look where you fall, look why you slipped*

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                      Oh and -

                      JKTTDP -
                      The hardest arithmetic to master is that which enables us to count our blessings.

                      *Don't look where you fall, look why you slipped*

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                        I love you all as well. I will keep taking the damn pills! As much as I don't want to sometimes......
                        This Princess Saved Herself

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                          This Redhead's Baclofen Thread

                          Hi red - sorry, I've been in and out the last couple of days, and don't have time in the day for stopping in anymore. How's your accelerated dosing going?

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                            I must be getting somewhere Bleep, because I've now developed total and complete insomnia. I'm only on 100 mg by the way. It's 12:45 here and I feel no where near sleep. I just popped a xanax, to try to knock myself out. I've had xanax for years and don't take it very often. On the occasion I need to, I don't hesitate. As far as my drinking goes, It is effortlessly decreasing. I going to write about it tomorrow (maybe on moms on bac). Hope all is okay for you, and we really miss you around here. Night Bleep, I'm going to try to find my sweet dreams.
                            This Princess Saved Herself

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                              Hey, that's great news red! I had the insomnia, still have in fact but I love it. I don't feel tired the next day on 4 hours sleep. I think that happens to a lot of people, but they get so caught up in the fact that they aren't sleeping, they lose sight of the lack of tiredness. Be on the lookout.

                              100mg's is a lot, well done. It's only a little over a week into Project Baclofen, isn't it?

                              Looking forward to seeing your post!

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                                For some reason I've not had the insomnia at all, full stop. Just sleep like a log.

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