This Redhead's Baclofen Thread

[redhead77]

This Redhead's Baclofen Thread

OMG! How did I forget this? The most important thing he wants us to remember is that he has an incredibly large knob. I don't think he cares too much about the rest.

[Isolde]

This Redhead's Baclofen Thread

redhead77;1189759 wrote: OMG! How did I forget this? The most important thing he wants us to remember is that he has an incredibly large knob. I don't think he cares too much about the rest.

:H

[Bruunhilde]

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Hi Red, I think our threads are too chatty for people looking for answers to their meds questions, and as you say, the successful people go on with their lives, like Murph. Going out in a firestorm is very Murph, and I kinda wish bleep had done that too, since I realized over time he was gone and never understood the lack of goodbyes or maybe I missed them because I was offline for a while, a few gaps in time.

[LadyLush]

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[QUOTE=redhead77;1189721]Sorry, it took me a while to come back to this. I've been suffering from some wicked insomnia...for days. The first few days, I coped with it well. I have taken bac for 8 months, but this was the worst I've ever experienced. It was so severe and pervasive, I thought I was going to lose it, or was losing it. I slept last night...finally. It was only about 5-6 hours, but as anyone on HDB knows, this is pretty good. I usually sleep 6 hours a night. So, I'm here and refreshed, and ready to address some things.

If anyone noticed, I posted a valid question some days ago. A couple of them. I was wondering if the Attackers were the folks in GD. Some responded to me, but not on my thread. I guess I can't blame them considering the current atmosphere of late. I am feeling with the responses, it is unlikely they were the Attackers. Come to think of it, there have been other drama threads started while we were all here (and many of them have been here much longer than I have), and they haven't come back to attack anyone. That said, I am still sore about the situation with Murphy. We all are. I don't think anyone should have gone on his thread in the first place. They did tell me via PM that no one meant to get him banned. What's done is done. I just couldn't understand why Murphy did that, responded in such a manner. He himself has said maybe he was going to tone it down. I had a theory as to what may have happened, that I thought of posting. I then thought, I should take it to the source and ask. I emailed Murphy and asked him what really happened that day. I know he's smart, and this is partially a character he plays here, so why did he write the caustic things he wrote? Here was his response to me:

"I've moved on. I could no longer afford the emotional and time investment I felt my presence on MWO required and looking back, my departure was really a kind of suicide by cop. So I was as responsible for my banning as anyone. I bear no ill will towards anyone, hope everyone has sweet dreams of kittens chasing butterflies."

After this email, I decided to send him an email (well, a few of them), regarding everything I was going through. My severe insomnia was the highlight since I was emailing him at 1am. I guess he thought I might have insomnia due to the Attackers. Here was his email regarding this:

"Redhead, you're not sleeping? Because of that stars bullshit? FFS. It's just childish fluff. It means nothing and shouldn't concern you in the least. The people I care about on MWO, I know also care about me. That's all that matters and that should be all that matters to you, not whether some 'tard is firing spit-balls from the back of the class. I know, I know, you already know this but we recovering alcoholics are a strange bunch. I've had a look through and I notice even the 'Stars' thread itself has been down-graded. That's so ironically funny."

Yes, I've changed my real name to Redhead for anonymity. I think he has a valid point, though. Whether you want to call them Tards or Attackers, it's all the same. I did assure him, my not sleeping wasn't due to the Tards. Even I'm not that sensitive. I told him about my latest increase in bac, my quitting smoking, my period, the predisone I was taking for my asthma, and some other stuff too. I was rambling. After I sent the emails, I was worried he would deem me neurotic and not write back. He did write back. A few times. He gave me some advise on the bac (this was the only thing he knew about, he doesn't understand periods or quitting smoking :H but he didn't say so, didn't make me feel stupid.). This is what I'll miss the most. The technical assistance he provides with bac. He's been indifferent for 8 months. He's always been an avid supporter of us, and I know he read my thread (I'll bet he still does ), and there really aren't many frequent posters to my thread anymore, who have this much indifferent bac time under their belts. I know, there are one or two of you, but you know where I'm going with this. He had the time to post, since he makes his wife do all the work to support them...sigh.

I've been watching and studying GD for a bit. Thought I might want to pop in there some as time permits (may do so one day). It turns out they are a supportive and cohesive group. I thought, I want what they have. And then I realized it. I have what they have. When I wrote, I felt like I was battling an Army here, I should have written... We. We were battling the army (or what we perceived to be the Army). I wasn't doing it alone. When under pressure, we banded together. It doesn't matter if we are battling an army or the Tards. They aren't going to win. We are a cohesive and supportive group. One who will rally when we feel we've lost someone special. One that will continue to support each other in killing this beast, while taking bac or other meds. At the end of the day, this is all that matters. Killing this beast one way or the other. Isn't it?

Cohesive my friend, we are. We won't let you down. :l

LL

[redhead77]

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Actually, Is, what he said is that his knob has grown even bigger since he left MWO. It's now of gargantuan proportions. I just couldn't bring myself to write it. I didn't want you ladies to imagine his knob was even bigger than before.

[KatieSmiles]

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[QUOTE=redhead77;I've been watching and studying GD for a bit. Thought I might want to pop in there some as time permits (may do so one day). It turns out they are a supportive and cohesive group. I thought, I want what they have. And then I realized it. I have what they have. When I wrote, I felt like I was battling an Army here, I should have written... We. We were battling the army (or what we perceived to be the Army). I wasn't doing it alone. When under pressure, we banded together. It doesn't matter if we are battling an army or the Tards. They aren't going to win. We are a cohesive and supportive group. One who will rally when we feel we've lost someone special. One that will continue to support each other in killing this beast, while taking bac or other meds. At the end of the day, this is all that matters. Killing this beast one way or the other. Isn't it?


Red

I really don't know how this GD vs Meds thing ever got started. We are members of MWO and are welcome to participate in all forums. Oh, sure some will have favorites that they visit more often than others, but I don't see why there has to be this ongoing perception that it's "us" against "them".

Most of the people who belong to this site are supportive and friendly whether they frequent, GD, Subs, Meds or any of the other sections of the board.
Pop into the other forums once in a while, branch out, make some new friends. You will soon learn that the the majority of people outside of Meds are not the army of tards you perceive them to be and your support system will grow. I would say for the most part no one expected Murphy to get banned and feel that although perhaps he needed to keep some things in check, his contributions will be a great loss to this forum.

The only battle that should be going on in this site is the battle to get well. :l

[redhead77]

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Well said Katie. I agree.

[redhead77]

This Redhead's Baclofen Thread

Luscious, what's up with your quoting system? I see it always tries to quote, yet it never shows up as a quote.

Bruun, who knows? I don't think people have to leave here. It's a good thing for people to at least check in and say how they're doing. And maybe Murphy will find a different way to have a voice. I don't know, but I sure hope so!

[Bruunhilde]

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Some people stay for years, some leave.

And Katie, for the record, the divide between meds and other sections was because it was pointed out by someone that meds has hostility and no other sections do.

Let's leave it all behind. Please.

[KatieSmiles]

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Okay Bruun, I was just trying to make things better. If people want to continue on with the rift so be it.

[SlipperyPete]

This Redhead's Baclofen Thread

redhead77;1189759 wrote: OMG! How did I forget this? The most important thing he wants us to remember is that he has an incredibly large knob. I don't think he cares too much about the rest.

That's only sort of true. In my last email with him he said "Now Petey my boy, don't go repeating this, but I've come to the realisation that you must have the largest knob of all, and I cannot bare to post in the same place where my knob must be considerably puny compared to a Septic's. I'm going to pretend like the decision to leave was something else, but in reality, your knob is just too large."

Well, I guess that settles that.

[bleep]

This Redhead's Baclofen Thread

SlipperyPete;1189922 wrote: That's only sort of true. In my last email with him he said "Now Petey my boy, don't go repeating this, but I've come to the realisation that you must have the largest knob of all, and I cannot bare to post in the same place where my knob must be considerably puny compared to a Septic's. I'm going to pretend like the decision to leave was something else, but in reality, your knob is just too large."

Well, I guess that settles that.

Freudian slip?

Red, hi! Haven't had time to go through your thread yet, I plan to do just that shortly. Hope all is well, other than your sleeping - when I stopped smoking, I slept about an hour a night for a while, but it passes after a bit. Let me actually read a bit before I say anything else though...

[RudyB]

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bleeeeep! hiiiiiii! great to see you!

first, katie, please take this as a neutral response to your post, not a fight-pick, because it is not, not at all. you said something about red's thinking the majority of people on gd is 'tards, but she actually said quite the opposite. and she did take a gander over there and, as she reported, she did find a cohesive, supportive group there who are all obviously fighting the same beast as we do here on meds.

nobody -least of all red- is perpetuating an 'us vs them' conversation. a careful read of her post makes that quite clear quite beautifully.

red, in an email to murph i asked him the same exact question about why he went out kicking and scratching, instead of toning it down, which would've left him still here. he never responded to that specifically, but he responded to everything else i wrote about in my multi-paragraphed note. he always does. (and he didn't mention his knob, not once!) it is very helpful to have him in my life, to get his counsel about dosing and drinking and, of course, how to find a good shag. my theory was, and has now been confirmed as being accurate thanks to his perfectly thorough response to your email, that it was his way of self-sabotaging his place here. (how did he put it? something about a cop?)

bruun, you remind me of me, over and over again. i wanna pick on a word you used to describe what our threads can sometimes be: 'chatty'. i get your point and agree completely that sometimes it's hard to find the essentials on our threads. (that's the beauty of the consolidated bac thread.) but i'd like to upgrade 'chatty' to 'banter'. we're so smart and thougthful in our interactions here, and the latter choice in words conveys that more accurately. call me a dork. you can, because i am. love you muchly.

thanks red for such a lovely post. i hope you'll get lots of sleep tonight. i think bleep (!) has a point, that it may have something to do w the smoke quit. (still waiting to hear how you've done that...) i am also mystified about the insomnia; clearly everyone is different. i never have that problem. (then again, i never really did, though for years i used it as an excuse to have extra guinness at what should've been the end of the night.) hope it goes away!

'kay guys. love how you keep it real!
xo ruby dee

[KatieSmiles]

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No worries, Rudy

[redhead77]

This Redhead's Baclofen Thread

Ru, you are correct. You're like my baclo-sis. You always understand my posts. This is my best attempt to put the us vs them to bed. I'm glad you 'get it'.

I wonder if Bruun's chatty statement has to do with the fact that many of our threads aren't really bac logs, but life logs with bac in them. Some might feel we should have personal threads that are more titration oriented. I see the trouble with the personal threads, but you can't really see the progression in ones life without it. Ultimately, we go from being pathetic, to growing as human beings and having full lives. Well, I hope, I'm still in the process. I've been thinking about it, though. I'm wondering how to put a system in place for people to see both.