This Redhead's Baclofen Thread

[Ne/Neva Eva]

This Redhead's Baclofen Thread

Yo, Red! Good morning!

I know you'll figure this out, and also that you'll take my $.02 for what they're worth...

I know it seems like (even to me!) that the switch is this magic thing. And that so many people get there and then stay there. I don't really think that's accurate. I think the vast majority of us drink after indifference, and that the vast majority just get to the point where it's no longer an issue at all. It's been a while since we've been able to talk openly about drinking while recovering, which is too bad. Because it's not all or nothing. Right? (I know you know this.) For me it was really hard to drink after the fact because I am a child of AA and thought OMG "to drink is to die!" But that's not the case. (Not only is that not the case, it isn't really accurate in the scientific literature in terms of how people get and stay sober. anyway...)

My point is that time seems to be the great equalizer. And that those of us without the background in abstinence being the only way don't have nearly as much of a quandary about the baclofen-indifference-drinking question(s). I was fortunate, I guess, that I had some peeps who were like, "So you had a beer! Or got drunk! Whatever!!!" And I didn't really talk about it much online, though I know you know all this...

Two weeks ago I wanted to get drunk. Really, really wanted it. It worried me, and I wondered if I was craving alcohol, but decided to do it anyway. Called my husband and told him, "I'm gonna get drunk." He said, "Good luck with that."
Long story (there isn't good white wine here, I didn't want to drive to the wine store, I don't like yucky booze anymore, I couldn't find a mixer for the bourbon...) shorter, I had a bourbon. With lemonade. yuck. Poured it out and had one neat. Yum! Took me two hours to drink it. Made another. Never finished it. Wasted a lot of expensive bourbon.

And started my period the next day. :H

Hang in, sister. I know you will, and I know you'll find what you need, too. For sure.
:l

[spacebebe01]

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Can you make up some story about having a fear of propofol? I dont know, tell them someone you know had it with terrible consequesnses, I know they will then start telling you about the safety record but you could just go all upset and say no no I cant do it Im scared or something like that, there are alternative anesthetics ask for one of them?

I dont like the idea of you having to titrate down from 140, I lost the plot and drank when I didnt take my 30, but then I think I may be a wimp.

Your stocking sound very glam with their lace tops :H Getting old eh I never knew it was going to be so much fun either, I especially didnt think it would happen to me so young

:l

[Bruunhilde]

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Hi y'all, nice to see the chat going on here, Hi Red, Space, Ne!

I love those compression stockings for the plane or long drives, really helps my pain. Wish there was something equivalent for the lower back!

Red, I feel the same way, that I miss saying alot of supportive things to people who deserve to hear them, and I'm self obsessed when I do post. I think we all worry too much about it, and we should just be grateful we realize we need to think about other peoples' perspectives and reach out to them, engage with each other, care about each other. I think its evident in the tones of our posts that we do care about each other, and that is the ultimate thing, right, to live the caring. To love! :l

Ne, in another thread somewhere, you talk about ants and I had to tell you I've killed zillions of ants and felt bad, but I can't seem to kill the gophers. I can't kill most things, even spiders I ususally take outside. Maybe I was a spider in a past life and I feel the karma.

Red again, thanks for the link. The article wasn't available when I went to get it but I do take zinc as you know and iron, and B and omega 3 for my hair, plus lots of protein. Please everyone, my TUT program and the law of attraction are telling me that I need your help VISUALIZING my beautiful hair filling in, its super shiny hair, and very soft, and its blonde and red and brown. I love to put it up in a ponytail at night and when I work out. Please visualize how happy I am with it growing in, how fit I look, how calm and peaceful and happy I am .... Right now, do it for me. And as often as you think of it, and anyone reading this. Thank you in advance!

Red, I am visualizing a wonderful new nanny living with you - I don't know how she was found, but she came to you and you couldn't be happier with her trustworthiness and how well she loves your kids. Space, I am seeing you lifted from depression, finding joy in many things you didn't before, and finding yourself really wanting a job. You find one that enables you to continue caring for your family as you need to and to keep going to the meetings that you like, and maintaining those friendships. And I am visualizing you Ne, in your new house, pleased as punch and knocking down walls, pulling weeds, and being thunderstruck with how life works in magical ways. Windy, Taw, Lush, you three are feeling less anxious and you've discovered that you can focus your thoughts and change your lives. Its amazing, it is, how you can think about how a certain challenging situation WILL work out WELL, and you visualize it happening, and how you will feel when it does, and that your boss Windy has decided that you're his favorite and you're treated well, and how great that makes you feel, you're able to make work easier for everyone with your position and power. Taw, your tummy problems disappear, poof! How did that happen? Doesn't it feel great? Your son is so happy and you're interested in anything BUT smoking and drinking. Its so different to feel this way, isn't it? Visualize it! Lush, I see you in a smaller house, but its perfect, easy to clean, few things happen to upset you because its your cozy new nest and it has everything you want and need. You have you kids over for a family dinner and they're thrilled with how you've become peaceful, so great a guide to them, your family is such a comfort zone for each of them.

Bear with me girls, do it with me, let's POWER UP.

:l

[spacebebe01]

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Im getting those cosmic forces going and seeing it all, it is happening for us all:h

:l

[cumberbund]

This Redhead's Baclofen Thread

scared but hopeful

hi there, thanks for all the info. I am bouncing between terror and elation right now. scared that this might not work and scared that it might. well, i hope to muster enuf courage to call the prescription in Monday and get started.

These boards have been beyond helpful for me. :h I really appreciate all of you.

thanks,
cb

[cumberbund]

This Redhead's Baclofen Thread

scared but hopeful

hi there, thanks for all the info. I am bouncing between terror and elation right now. scared that this might not work and scared that it might. well, i hope to muster enuf courage to call the prescription in Monday and get started.

Reading these boards have been beyond helpful for me. :h I really appreciate all of you.

thanks,
cb

[redhead77]

This Redhead's Baclofen Thread

Hi Friends,

I woke up this morning with every intention of addressing all the posts on my thread. It's been a whirlwind of activity with my trying to get ready for Easter.

I came on earlier to do it, and then got called away. I also woke up feeling like I'm coming down with something. I'm trying to pull through it. My day with my kids is far from done.

Thanks for being here, and I'll be back as soon as I can. :l

[spacebebe01]

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I hope your feeling ok Red and you and the kids enjoyed yourselves

[windycitylady]

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Red, when I saw you said you were feeling under the weather, my first thought was ZINC! Then I remembered who I was talking to!
Hope you're feeling better!

[redhead77]

This Redhead's Baclofen Thread

Good Evening,

Sorry, it took me so long. My coming down with something, turned into a came down with something. Two of my kids had been sick with chest colds and fevers, and I'd been effectively fighting it off...until Saturday. My immune system gave in. Windy, unfortunately the zinc didn't work. I suppose they call them supplements for a reason, though.

I stayed up late Saturday getting baskets ready and hiding the Easter eggs the kids colored (I can't do anything until they are long asleep.) I'd been running on empty anyway, trying to get everything done. The boys got inline skates from the Bunny. I caught them in the garage with my rollerblades. They must have found them and dusted them off. My one son was arguing with my other son "I told you it was my turn". I decided then and there, they were better off with their own skates. At least they'd fit right and they wouldn't twist an ankle. So they got skates along with helmuts and padding (I'm glad the Bunny knows about safety ). They started skating at 8am in the driveway, and were at it all day. I cooked a ham with a fever,:upset: and somehow made dairy-free potatoes au gratin. Sounds gross, I know. I thought they would be gross, but everyone loved them. What a trip! I'm thinking in another year or so, I might be able to write an alternative cookbook.

Ne, thanks for your $.02. I agree, with HDB drinking is a different animal. We don't talk about drinking here anymore. I suppose, that's because the majority don't do it. Or they're trying to stop doing it altogether. I know what your experience is, and I know a few others here who have switched, who can drink here and there with no problem. I didn't have that experience. I did at first when I switched, and I've had numerous periods of alcohol free days (7 days, 10 days) but I found (especially when I'd come down) I'd drink more than I wanted to. Which is why I'm using Naltrexone now. It seems to be working for me. I know it may be a matter of time, and I can't put into words how much AF time bac has given me, but I don't feel that it's enough. I think we all know deep down if our drinking is normal or not. I was out of Naltrexone until recently. I was able to make a choice not to drink (and I've only drank once since I got my shipment). I did have to fight some triggers, or what are really probably cravings. Is having to use other tools not to drink (even if it's a little) being switched? What do you think? Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining. I feel like I'm in a pretty good place right now.

Bebe, these stockings aren't so bad, they are much silkier and thinner than TED hose (if anyone is familiar with those). Regarding wearing these things, a friend told me to "rock that sh*t with pride!" And I did! And now it's done. Well, until the next time, I either have sclero or when I have my surgery (I have to wear them for 10 days after). I wrote someone who has an intimate knowledge of anesthesia, and who I feel comfortable talking to about being on HDB. It seems, I don't have to come down to have my surgery. This is fantastic news! Bebe, you'll find your way. I absolutely know it. If you can possibly help it, you should avoid the lager. It might turn into something more. :l

Bruun, you should be a motivational writer. The way you explained your hair, I had to visualize it in depth. You left me no other choice. I think you'll get to the bottom of this hair loss. I'm sorry you couldn't open the article. It really is a good one. It's from the Cleveland Clinic. I was wrong in that it was just for women, though. It's about diffuse hair loss for both the sexes. Thank you so much for your thoughts for me, for all of us! I am expecting Mary Poppins to be landing on my front porch any day now. Thought control is a very powerful thing.

Cumberbund, we appreciate you too. I'm glad you could join us, and I hope this works for you. I would imagine you called in your bac already? Are you working with Dr L? It would seem so, since you wrote you were calling it in. I hope you were able to get it!

If you guys could visualize me getting well, that would be great. I'm kind of hopped up on medicine at the moment.

Thanks in advance. :l

Redhead

[Bruunhilde]

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Hey Red.
Note I'm on the UK spell droid version so any random Shir from here on out is excel.ptfeo. judgement. Maybe Space can interpret last last weird bit o Shiite.

Kriory. Kriley. Krikey.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

This Redhead's Baclofen Thread

redhead77;1294492 wrote: I did have to fight some triggers, or what are really probably cravings. Is having to use other tools not to drink (even if it's a little) being switched? What do you think?

I don't believe in the 'switch'. Even _serenity_, who experienced waking up one morning and not wanting to drink ever again, drank again. Albeit she went down, but in going back up to a comfortable place--in terms of SEs and wanting to drink--I don't think she had an "off" moment.

The switch, perhaps, is the off when I realized I could live without it without suffering about the fact that I was living without it.

I do not think that using other tools, almost any tools, is a bad idea. It's a sea-change. A deal-breaker. A game-changer. A...Damn. I'm trying to think of terrible cliches. Maybe it's too early?
Anyway. Whatever it takes, right? To live comfortably without booze defining one's choices.

Thanks for asking, Red. Hope you're feeling better this morning. Visualizing you rockin' the stockings, on roller blades, with a new nanny and a normal temperature. :l

(Have you discovered the new time-vampire Pinterest? krikey. bruun.)

[spacebebe01]

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Red when I was a kid my dad had an op on his veins in his legs and had to wear the stockings, he was a real old generation man's man and was not at all amused by them, Im sitting here with tears running down my face thinking about him in his stockings.

Thanks for jogging my memory

[cumberbund]

This Redhead's Baclofen Thread

Ok, wow. Just picked up my bac and am utterly beseeching any available god/goddess/?? that it will help me out of the sad spiral I am in. It took me 4 days to muster the courage to call the pharm, but now I have it and I am starting it tomorrow. I am indeed a Doc L patient. Got his info right here. I've not often done something as wacky as that, but I really like him and how responsive he is and have so much desperation and hope about this that i was willing to trust internet postings for once in my life. I hope it pans out. At this point, anything is better than my current state of reality!

yay! hope everyone is doing well. april has NOT been kind.

day 1 tomorrow!

thx
cb

[Bruunhilde]

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Best of luck Cumberbund.
You should feel welcome to post your thoughts and journey here.