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    Daily dosing record - beatle

    Hi Beatle
    I'm waiting for the once per week update! Hope you're doing well.
    The email address you've sent me doesn't seem to work, will you check it.
    Started Baclofen 3/9/10 Hit my switch at 250mg on 21/11/10 Present maintenance dose of 50mg : started drinking after 1 year, upped dose to 80mg and stopped: Tapered to 30mg, started 6 months of drinking, upped dose to 240mg to stop 12/7/12

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      Daily dosing record - beatle

      HULLLLOOOOOO!?

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        Daily dosing record - beatle

        Beatle????
        Started Baclofen 3/9/10 Hit my switch at 250mg on 21/11/10 Present maintenance dose of 50mg : started drinking after 1 year, upped dose to 80mg and stopped: Tapered to 30mg, started 6 months of drinking, upped dose to 240mg to stop 12/7/12

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          Daily dosing record - beatle

          I, too, am waiting rather patiently, Ig.
          xoxo and luuuuuv beatle.
          Ne

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            Daily dosing record - beatle

            She's probably hit the switch and worried about whether she should post yet!
            Started Baclofen 3/9/10 Hit my switch at 250mg on 21/11/10 Present maintenance dose of 50mg : started drinking after 1 year, upped dose to 80mg and stopped: Tapered to 30mg, started 6 months of drinking, upped dose to 240mg to stop 12/7/12

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              Daily dosing record - beatle

              ha! The switch?

              I keep writing posts and then having horrific experiences which negate everything I said, and completely change my strategy. (I now realize I need to post every day.)

              My problem is having OD-like experiences on bac -- without increasing or doubling doses -- I'm sure about that this time, since I do have a foolproof system now. If anyone wants to know what my system is, please ask later. I have to deal with what is happening now.

              I just came off another complete surprise OD-like experience. Writhing in bed, sometimes writhing motionlessly because I can't move. But no sleep. Buzzing head, ringing ears. Electric shocked body. This time it was shorter lived than the previous 3 times (more on that later).

              I'm thinking I am getting to the bottom of this now, but now I have to attend to picking up kids (thank goodness I am now able -- am a single mother at the moment with NO network -- nobody I could call to fill in).

              So, I will be back, but just want to say that the reason I have been posting on other threads this morning is that while I keep trying to update my own status post, everything keeps changing so fast, that I can't get to post about what's happening, but I can take a minute to put in a word where I really think I have something to add/contribute.

              Phew.

              And thank you all for pressing me to be accountable. I also think my experiences the past few days could possibly help others.
              Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life... And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.

              Steve Jobs, Stanford Commencement Adress, 2005

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                Daily dosing record - beatle

                I've found that the OD experience is best aided by walking around. Lying down just made it worse. Still a horrible experience. Yours are happening without actually double dosing though? Odd.

                Good luck beatle, doesn't sound pleasant. I look forward to seeing your dosage post!

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                  Daily dosing record - beatle

                  Support. From way too far away. That's what I've got. fwiw

                  Ne

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                    Daily dosing record - beatle

                    OK last post until I hear something that is relevant to the matter in hand.

                    Which is you getting sober Beatle on a baclofen schedule that works.

                    It seems that you are having trouble seeing the forest for the trees.

                    I don't want to sound harsh and I hope my posts hear are not contributing to keeping you away but you know the expression "you can lead a horse to water ..........."?
                    Started Baclofen 3/9/10 Hit my switch at 250mg on 21/11/10 Present maintenance dose of 50mg : started drinking after 1 year, upped dose to 80mg and stopped: Tapered to 30mg, started 6 months of drinking, upped dose to 240mg to stop 12/7/12

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                      Daily dosing record - beatle

                      Hang in there, friend. Keep posting.

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                        Daily dosing record - beatle

                        I think your posts are a positive force in this thread Ig, and that you shouldn't stop. A little prompting can't hurt.

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                          Daily dosing record - beatle

                          I never had the patience to tickle trout Bleep though others say it can be done.

                          Don't even know how to get a beetle out of its shell.
                          Started Baclofen 3/9/10 Hit my switch at 250mg on 21/11/10 Present maintenance dose of 50mg : started drinking after 1 year, upped dose to 80mg and stopped: Tapered to 30mg, started 6 months of drinking, upped dose to 240mg to stop 12/7/12

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                            Daily dosing record - beatle

                            I'm more of a hang grenade fisherman myself. I'll try and help you with the prodding.

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                              Daily dosing record - beatle

                              I feel a deep sense of caring and growing frustration here regarding my posting/not posting.

                              The caring keeps me going, and the frustration is more than understandable.

                              So, I will herewith post what I was getting ready to post last night before I fell asleep at the keyboard...

                              A lot changed today, but here was the update... in its somewhat unedited form.

                              I will follow with an update after my children are fed and in bed.

                              I apologize for my thoughtless behaviour. And I am thankful for the prodding and even the tough love (even though I don't normally buy into that approach)

                              -beatle

                              Update:
                              General: I have been unable to push the dosing over 290 because of SEs.
                              I am suffering both physically and mentally, and have been very depressed, but feel that I am in an upturn now.
                              Dosing:
                              Bac has been hovering in the 280 range. (explanation below)
                              I just took my last dose of the day, bringing me to 290.

                              SEs:
                              I have severe insomnia at night (sleeping max 3 hours) and complete somnolence during the day, which means I cannot concentrate for more than a few minutes at a time, or even less. I cannot get any work done, and I am often not able to function as a mother (I am a single mother at the moment). It?s dangerous for me to drive, which I have to do.

                              I have auditory hallucinations regularly: bleeps in the inside of my ears, people talking (or TVs on in the next room, when there is nobody there? I have talked about this before, I believe. It has not abated).

                              I also have tactile hallucinations, which I also believe I have discussed before. In addition a new one is feeling I?m suddenly sinking into the bed, or that there are lumps in the bed moving around. Pretty much like when I was pregnant in the final weeks and you could see the fetus?s elbows and knees pushing out in the tight dome, and moving as the baby moves. Entertaining and thrilling stuff when you are watching it, and know what it is, but not so much so when it is happening under you in the bed and you don?t know what it is.

                              My electric-shock feelings have lessened significantly, but the jerking of hands is much more pronounced than before. Lucky thing I don?t meet people much.
                              New SE: vibrating feelings in my thighs and sometimes in my sides and back, especially when I am lying down (trying to sleep). Also, a feeling of sinking into the bed. These are not very uncomfortable, more like jarring and a little interesting. Has anyone else had these experiences?

                              Meanwhile, on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday I went through a few hours midday during which it felt like I had ODed (on bac). I was lying in bed, sweating, hallucinating, unable to sleep and often unable to move. After each of those experiences, I delayed the next scheduled bac dose by ?-1 hour, but tried to keep on schedule, anyway, based on the experiences and advice conveyed here. I kept it at 265 or above all 3 days.

                              I am close to 100% certain that I did not take too much baclofen the days I had the OD-like experiences. I have laid out my doses so that it would be hard to take too much. I keep refining my system and now I think I have it pretty perfect? more foolproof than ever. (But I?ve leaned to never underestimate this fool?s capacity to outfool foolproof.
                              Long-term SEs include memory, teeth and eyesight.

                              Alcohol:

                              I am one of those that cannot physically stop drinking cold turkey (have done it multiple times in the last few years, with devastating consequences -- and the resulting sobriety has lasted form 5 days to max 2 months of a hell worse than drinking, in many ways).
                              But this last week, I had been trying to cut back alcohol consumption, with some, but not much, effort. I was AF (ok, one or two beers ? but that is AF for me) for 4 days. It did not help at all ? in fact the opposite, I thought. I attributed the OD-like experiences to the reduced alcohol consumption.

                              Not sure how exactly to do this, but maybe just 10-20 mg/day might be enough (I?m hoping). to reach my goal.

                              My plan looks like something like this:
                              7?bac 35
                              9?bac 35
                              11?bac 35
                              13?bac 25 (this is prior to the time I will be driving)
                              15?bac 35
                              17?bac 35
                              19?bac 35
                              21?bac 35
                              23?bac 25

                              In theory. This would bring me to 295 (I think? not sure I can depend on my head).
                              However, I need to adjust this as the day goes -- and it has become pretty clear when the agitation and the somnolence SEs kick in (and yeah, they do kick in simultaneously, I mean not exactly at the same time, but they are both worse during the worse periods), and I simply cannot follow the schedule then, so I space out doses more, by a half hour, say, or reduce doses (to 20 or 25, say), and then pump them up again later, but anything beyond 35 seems to affect me too much to tolerate.
                              Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life... And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.

                              Steve Jobs, Stanford Commencement Adress, 2005

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                                Daily dosing record - beatle

                                Wow, succinct update, thanks beatle!

                                I've found my somnolence is much worse later in the afternoon, when baclofen has built up in my system. It is directly related to the amount of sleep I have had the night before. Who would have thought? A nap in the afternoon, which unfortunately is not always practical, helps tremendously.

                                Something to bear in mind when adjusting your dose for driving, and this took me a while to work out, is that it takes about 4 hours for the baclofen to hit your system. It feels like it's quicker, but that's the previous dose hitting you.

                                The sinking into the bed sounds quite cool, it makes me think of that scene in Trainspotting where the guy OD's on heroin.

                                You seem to be well on top of your dose at the moment, well done. Success will surely be yours if you can continue like this.

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