Daily dosing record - beatle
Note that you yourself said you were drinking. Ne, and others know you turn "different" when you are drinking and you lash out at people, trying to spread your own misery in attempt to battle your own demon (many people do this when drunk. Personally, I just get weepy and depressed. They are different ways of coping, but at least mine doesn't (purposely) hurt other people.)
Your post was obnoxious and nasty and Ne called you on it. She didn't want me, or others, especially newbies, to get upset and discouraged from your post. She also (probably) wanted it to be clear to others first visiting here that personal attacks and spreading negativity are not tolerated here, so that newcomers would not be turned off from my thread and all the other threads.
Ne is nice to you offline because she has a heart 10 sizes too big. She cares about you and wants to help you, I know that for a fact, but she also doesn't want to tolerate you abusing and discouraging others.
Think about a parent and a child. Love and discipline. A parent gives their child love and helps them overcome problems, but a parent does NOT tolerate the child being mean and nasty to other children. Or think about a man and wife or kids, and they all love each other, but they don't tolerate being hit or abused in any other way. Or they shouldn't anyway.
And missy, you (and Tracy and a couple others periodically) were the reason I had to take a hiatus from MWO. When you invaded Ne's thread with your obnoxious and nasty post about AA (very similar to your post here, in fact), I felt like the last "safe" place on the boards had been infiltrated and I no longer felt the good vibe, especially when everybody ignored your attack, as if it was acceptable. Bad message for people who are vulnerable (as I was then... and as are many people just visiting this forum)... it's scary for vulnerable people to post if they fear someone might attack them.
But for your outrageous post, and then your pathetic reinterpretation of, or attempt to reinvent, your obnoxious and nasty post as "questioning", I thank you, because I'm not so vulnerable now and I am laughing all the way to the bac.
But I also thank all those who "called" missy on this. I can handle it now, mostly thanks to bac, but I would still be upset for all those newbies who might tragically conclude that this site is not for support, and miss out on the most important -- the ONLY -- support group with extensive information -- ANYWHERE in the world. Some might go off bac because of missy's post, some might not start bac because of her post.
And everything I have written, to try to help myself and others, would be undermined by one or two people, desperately spreading their vitriol wherever they see vulnerable people who are not quite as miserable as they are.
BUT, since missy has been told quite clearly that it is not appropriate on these threads, others who read it may not be so likely to retreat.
And thank you missy for making me laugh. hahahahahahahahaha. Now I'll go take 50mg of bac, and open a beer. It will taste good, I know. I will probably drink another (almost inevitably), and then perhaps another. Or maybe not. I'm not worried for now. I'll also probably not be able to sleep again tonight, thanks to bac, but I'll deal with it, thanks to bac. Like I dealt with the flat tire, the broken fridge and your post yesterday.
Unlike Ne, however, I don't have a heart 10 sizes too big (yet, anyway), so I won't be worrying much about you missy... until you stop abusing people on these threads, especially on their own personal threads. This thread is about my bac journey, and Ne's is about hers. Why come onto the threads and bash us? We can say bac is the way if we want to on our threads. I am not (and don't know of anyone who is) invading nal threads and telling them they should try bac. Nobody is forcing you to read it. let the baccers bac each other in peace.
missy, when you stop abusing others and start concentrating on yourself, I will be all ears, and ready to offer you support in your journey, whatever form it should take.
(note: am posting this without even reading it through. (EDIT: read it through and made some minor corrections) I will come back to edit it for clarity and brevity. Meanwhile, bear with my verbosity. (Newest EDIT: I will not come back to this and edit it for clarity. It's said and done, and I'm done with it.)
This part still holds true and probably always will:
how I start when writing anything... “I look at what I write so I can see what I think.” WH Auden)
missyabby1;1124629 wrote: Dear Murph, I didn't think I was being obnoxious or nasty questioning beatles quest with baclofen. I do find it offensivethat both you and ne have brought up the fact that i have been drinking.................its almost like the judgement of AA. Ne has sent the most caring messages to me privately. This is just a most obnoxious double entendre ever. I don't know if Baclfofen works Murph. //full stop...don't know if it works on a long term basis......and anyone who says so is kidding themselves. I hope it does, I really do. But the thing that really shits me off the most is people like you who seem to just go along on one road. I just could not get over the fact that Ne said I say totally outrageous things when I have been drinking (then send me a totally different private message the same day). I just can't get over the total bullshit. I got a real shock reading your message. What do you want? I don't really care whether Baclofen, Naltrexone,Campral or whatever works to keep people sober but, shit,I get angry when people say one way is the only way. So yes Murph, I have been drinking but yes I feel I am far more honest then you and your Mrs Murph, who is really a figment of your imagination. God there is so no loyalty here apart from ""bac takers""
lol (x1,000).
Re-read your original post, please. It was certainly "obnoxious or nasty", and you were not just "questioning" my quest. Oh yeah, and it was offensive, too.
In case you forgot:
I don't see any "questioning" in this post. I see you coming onto my thread and being obnoxious, telling me I should quit -- despite my numerous posts earlier in my thread and on other threads enumerating the benefits I have reaped from baclofen even without the switch.
Telling me that I am not for real in my wish to be sober?
And please explain to me how anyone can say this is not obnoxious and is just questioning my quest.
missyabby1;1124557 wrote: GBeatle has been on bac for how long? Wouldn;t you think that any sane intelligent person would just call it quits and try something else? ... You know, commen sense approach /pro active stuff. Sorry Beatle, but you really are , either, stupid, which, i know you aren;t, or you are just not for real in your wish to be sober.
lol (x1,000).
Re-read your original post, please. It was certainly "obnoxious or nasty", and you were not just "questioning" my quest. Oh yeah, and it was offensive, too.
In case you forgot:
missyabby1;1124557 wrote: God, Reggie, I totally disagree. Beatle has been on bac for how long? Wouldn;t you think that any sane intelligent person would just call it quits and try something else? ...You know, commen sense approach /pro active stuff. Sorry Beatle, but you really are , either, stupid, which, i know you aren;t, or you are just not for real in your wish to be sober.
Either way, you give ME, no hope to try Baclofen at all. Yes, I have been drinking tonight, but yes I have a prescription for naltrexone tomorrow which I will give my best shot.
Missy
Either way, you give ME, no hope to try Baclofen at all. Yes, I have been drinking tonight, but yes I have a prescription for naltrexone tomorrow which I will give my best shot.
Missy
I don't see any "questioning" in this post. I see you coming onto my thread and being obnoxious, telling me I should quit -- despite my numerous posts earlier in my thread and on other threads enumerating the benefits I have reaped from baclofen even without the switch.
Telling me that I am not for real in my wish to be sober?
And please explain to me how anyone can say this is not obnoxious and is just questioning my quest.
missyabby1;1124557 wrote: GBeatle has been on bac for how long? Wouldn;t you think that any sane intelligent person would just call it quits and try something else? ... You know, commen sense approach /pro active stuff. Sorry Beatle, but you really are , either, stupid, which, i know you aren;t, or you are just not for real in your wish to be sober.
Your post was obnoxious and nasty and Ne called you on it. She didn't want me, or others, especially newbies, to get upset and discouraged from your post. She also (probably) wanted it to be clear to others first visiting here that personal attacks and spreading negativity are not tolerated here, so that newcomers would not be turned off from my thread and all the other threads.
Ne is nice to you offline because she has a heart 10 sizes too big. She cares about you and wants to help you, I know that for a fact, but she also doesn't want to tolerate you abusing and discouraging others.
Think about a parent and a child. Love and discipline. A parent gives their child love and helps them overcome problems, but a parent does NOT tolerate the child being mean and nasty to other children. Or think about a man and wife or kids, and they all love each other, but they don't tolerate being hit or abused in any other way. Or they shouldn't anyway.
And missy, you (and Tracy and a couple others periodically) were the reason I had to take a hiatus from MWO. When you invaded Ne's thread with your obnoxious and nasty post about AA (very similar to your post here, in fact), I felt like the last "safe" place on the boards had been infiltrated and I no longer felt the good vibe, especially when everybody ignored your attack, as if it was acceptable. Bad message for people who are vulnerable (as I was then... and as are many people just visiting this forum)... it's scary for vulnerable people to post if they fear someone might attack them.
But for your outrageous post, and then your pathetic reinterpretation of, or attempt to reinvent, your obnoxious and nasty post as "questioning", I thank you, because I'm not so vulnerable now and I am laughing all the way to the bac.
But I also thank all those who "called" missy on this. I can handle it now, mostly thanks to bac, but I would still be upset for all those newbies who might tragically conclude that this site is not for support, and miss out on the most important -- the ONLY -- support group with extensive information -- ANYWHERE in the world. Some might go off bac because of missy's post, some might not start bac because of her post.
And everything I have written, to try to help myself and others, would be undermined by one or two people, desperately spreading their vitriol wherever they see vulnerable people who are not quite as miserable as they are.
BUT, since missy has been told quite clearly that it is not appropriate on these threads, others who read it may not be so likely to retreat.
And thank you missy for making me laugh. hahahahahahahahaha. Now I'll go take 50mg of bac, and open a beer. It will taste good, I know. I will probably drink another (almost inevitably), and then perhaps another. Or maybe not. I'm not worried for now. I'll also probably not be able to sleep again tonight, thanks to bac, but I'll deal with it, thanks to bac. Like I dealt with the flat tire, the broken fridge and your post yesterday.
Unlike Ne, however, I don't have a heart 10 sizes too big (yet, anyway), so I won't be worrying much about you missy... until you stop abusing people on these threads, especially on their own personal threads. This thread is about my bac journey, and Ne's is about hers. Why come onto the threads and bash us? We can say bac is the way if we want to on our threads. I am not (and don't know of anyone who is) invading nal threads and telling them they should try bac. Nobody is forcing you to read it. let the baccers bac each other in peace.
missy, when you stop abusing others and start concentrating on yourself, I will be all ears, and ready to offer you support in your journey, whatever form it should take.
(note: am posting this without even reading it through. (EDIT: read it through and made some minor corrections) I will come back to edit it for clarity and brevity. Meanwhile, bear with my verbosity. (Newest EDIT: I will not come back to this and edit it for clarity. It's said and done, and I'm done with it.)
This part still holds true and probably always will:
how I start when writing anything... “I look at what I write so I can see what I think.” WH Auden)
). For some reason my humour always seems to shine through there. 
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