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    #31
    Daily dosing record - beatle

    Going commando, eh? No panty lines!

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      #32
      Daily dosing record - beatle

      You need some Xanax. It'd help tremendously with the "losing focus every 19 seconds" thing.

      -Back to tearing off my thermostat housing...again .
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        #33
        Daily dosing record - beatle

        It looked like I had messed up on the dosing and was way under titrating schedule. So I ramped up in the last few hours, and am just trying to calculate what I have really taken. Can't focus, but it looks like 310 (???)

        If so -- and I have tried to calculate it over and over... can't see nor concentrate -- 55 over a new high dose... ?

        Question: If I have gone so up, am I going to seriously od, in terms of dangerous?
        Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life... And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.

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          #34
          Daily dosing record - beatle

          I had just checked out this thread to see what your latest status was when I read your post on NE's thread about your languishing thread. I'm thinking about you beatle, belly up to the thread and do some verbal diarrhea NE style.

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            #35
            Daily dosing record - beatle

            thanks
            Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life... And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.

            Steve Jobs, Stanford Commencement Adress, 2005

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              #36
              Daily dosing record - beatle

              Awfully quiet in here beatle?

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                #37
                Daily dosing record - beatle

                bump
                :nutso: I take pride in my humility :nutso:
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                  #38
                  Daily dosing record - beatle

                  Thanks for the bump/kick bruun, and likewise blip and Lo0p.

                  Quick update:

                  I had a a couple rough nights. The one documented on here, and then the night after, pretty much the same. And both because of messing up on dosing -- forgetting to write it down, or forgetting to calculate it right. the night after was much better, but still roughish. Ditto last night (although now that I have a strict regime with accountability built in, I did do everything according to schedule-- no mess ups).

                  Felt much more normalized yesterday. Think I'm finally getting on a schedule, and my body is adjusting. Less erratic now. Not going up today.

                  Yesterday was a a little hard, especially in the middle. With such constant, relentless dosing , some SEs were pretty bad -- especially agitation. (I used to back off when this particular SE -- agitation -- got going.) I found myself picking up some poison around 16:00 and rushing home to have a drink. Funny thing, I made it, and then logged on to MWO and forgot about it for an hour.

                  Still, I drank quite a a lot over the course of the evening, although perhaps 1/2 of what I drank pre-bac.

                  I will stick to this schedule for the next 2 days, which ends up at 250-260mg/day (Depends a little on what time I get up and how agitated I feel).

                  So, more or less, this is it:

                  7.00 35
                  9.00 25
                  11.00 35
                  13.00 25
                  15.00 35
                  17.00 25
                  19.00 25
                  20.00 25
                  22.00 25

                  = 255

                  I will probably stretch out the doses in response to SEs and then maybe make up for that by adding 10 here or there to a 25. Has to be a little flexible.

                  It worked perfectly yesterday (in terms of dosing) except for that extreme agitation in the middle of the day. Have tweaked today's schedule (above) to hopefully ease that agitation.

                  I won't be on MWO for the rest of the day (maybe in the evening). This addiction is ruining my life. Hopefully it will also eventually save it. But for now, I can't go bankrupt, which is where I am fast heading at this point.
                  Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life... And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.

                  Steve Jobs, Stanford Commencement Adress, 2005

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                    #39
                    Daily dosing record - beatle

                    Hey beatle. Your PM box is full. Was just trying to send you a message of support - I'm rooting for your success.

                    DG
                    Sobriety Date = 5/22/08
                    Nicotine Free Date = 2/27/07


                    One day at a time.

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                      #40
                      Daily dosing record - beatle

                      I can't imagine what 18 months slow titration must be like. I just wanted to get it over with. It did give me a sense of purpose which was quite riveting and which I miss. With lick I shall find something equally fulfilling which is non alcohol related.

                      Your schedule, as others have mentioned is slightly erratic. I was loath to take a step backwards (in my opinion) and strove to increase the dose as quickly as possible to reach my switch. I would suggest that you don't decrease your daily dose unless dire circumstances dictate that course of action.

                      Another thing I notice is that you give the schedule enormous credit for the amount of SEs that you are feeling. The half life of Bac in the blood may be hours (and no doubt is noticeable) but in the CNS it is several days. Despite the variability of SEs you get post dose, the average or mean level of Ses is probably more related to how much is in your CNS.

                      Lately I have come to the conclusion that Ses are very much a physical expression of how much turmoil there is going on in your head.

                      18 months - jeez -stop punishing yourself with a thousand cuts.

                      Just my 2 cents worth
                      Started Baclofen 3/9/10 Hit my switch at 250mg on 21/11/10 Present maintenance dose of 50mg : started drinking after 1 year, upped dose to 80mg and stopped: Tapered to 30mg, started 6 months of drinking, upped dose to 240mg to stop 12/7/12

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                        #41
                        Daily dosing record - beatle

                        Ig, this dosage schedule is a new one, to try and minimise exactly what you are talking about.

                        Beatle, thanks for the update, good luck! You are in our thoughts...

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                          #42
                          Daily dosing record - beatle

                          I agree with what others have said about your schedule - too erratic and flexible by far. I was more than reluctant to decrease my dose and titrated for the switch, I think you need to keep your eye on the prize and organize your life around the SEs rather than the other way around. Follow the general protocol and strive to increase the dose every 3 or 4 days.

                          The other thing I notice is that you seem to give an inordinate amount of credit for the SEs to the size of the individual dose. The half life of Bac in the blood is a matter of hours and this will be reflected in some physical way. The half life in the CNS is days and I think this is responsible for the average or mean amount of SEs that you are getting. Don't forget doses and if you do then I would suggest that you squeeze it in even though you may get a bit of a buzz 30 mins later.

                          I found that the SEs were and are a reflection of how much turmoil I have going on in my brain. Whether induced by baclofen or life!

                          Really! 18 months Beatle. Time to $h1t or get of the pot I think. No one's died yet from it but death from a thousand cuts can't be ruled out. Here's hoping that you get to the required result in weeks rather than months. Have to warn you though that the journey is riveting and post switch I for one am still looking for something as compelling.

                          If you were a newbie my words might be different but I'm sure you will take all advice under GREAT consideration!
                          Started Baclofen 3/9/10 Hit my switch at 250mg on 21/11/10 Present maintenance dose of 50mg : started drinking after 1 year, upped dose to 80mg and stopped: Tapered to 30mg, started 6 months of drinking, upped dose to 240mg to stop 12/7/12

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                            #43
                            Daily dosing record - beatle

                            Bleep's reply comes after this post. I deleted my other one because I didn't think it had gone through and I posted 2. The 2nd one I thought was better.
                            Started Baclofen 3/9/10 Hit my switch at 250mg on 21/11/10 Present maintenance dose of 50mg : started drinking after 1 year, upped dose to 80mg and stopped: Tapered to 30mg, started 6 months of drinking, upped dose to 240mg to stop 12/7/12

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                              #44
                              Daily dosing record - beatle

                              I know, I wasn't going to be on MWO until evening... but I just checked and I feel like I need to ask some questions to Ig.

                              I can't see how my new schedule is erratic. It is 35 or 25 every 2 hours, to keep the bac constantly in the system, but alternated doses a little earlier in the day and later at night.

                              As for flexibility, I thought people in general were taking a somewhat flexible approach, tweaking their protocols as needed individually. For example, lots of people report taking more before "witching hour" and less before bed.

                              I really value your advice, Ig, that is why I am asking.

                              I don't mind what you said at the end. Many others have said that (in their own way), which is one of the reasons I am taking such an aggressive and regimented approach now.

                              Part of the reason I have taken so long is that in general the ideas around here about titration speed relating to SEs in the sense that faster is better hadn't really come out until recently. Before that, Lo0p was looked at as a wild anomaly, and nobody was even contemplating fast titration at all. I'm pretty sure there was a lot more talk about listening to your body, and taking it slowly to minimize the SEs.
                              Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life... And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.

                              Steve Jobs, Stanford Commencement Adress, 2005

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                                #45
                                Daily dosing record - beatle

                                I get confused about that too beatle. Sorry I can't be help on this but I'm sure others will. Hang in there! :l

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