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    beatle;1073734 wrote: I don't know what you mean by this.
    It means that I intend to ignore you. Anon and I are fine, and were before you ever stuck your nose into it, as you must have noticed. Lots of stuff with others sussed out in PM. I really don't care what you think of me, Beatle. But here is a fact for you: Right now you are the one detracting from the thread. Move on already. Everyone else has.
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      Let's just go on with this thread like nother happened. I can understand beatles point of view. Because it's a shame this thread got spilled with negative replies about our forum. But I can understand Tracy her skepticism too.

      That is also the reason I switched forums to phpbb, vbulletin is a commercial package, phpbb is free. Just to show I don't have any commercial intentions.

      I think we talked some skepticism away so people who read this in the future don't have to ask the same questions again.

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        anonymity;1073760 wrote: Let's just go on with this thread like nother happened. I can understand beatles point of view. Because it's a shame this thread got spilled with negative replies about our forum. But I can understand Tracy her skepticism too.

        That is also the reason I switched forums to phpbb, vbulletin is a commercial package, phpbb is free. Just to show I don't have any commercial intentions.

        I think we talked some skepticism away so people who read this in the future don't have to ask the same questions again.
        I agree. I hope we can get back to, and continue the momentum of, the very interesting exchange of information and ideas that was happening before this.
        Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life... And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.

        Steve Jobs, Stanford Commencement Adress, 2005

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          beatle;1074009 wrote: I agree. I hope we can get back to, and continue the momentum of, the very interesting exchange of information and ideas that was happening before this.
          It is, but the point we were talking about philosophy and evolution and DSM in combination with baclofen is long gone. Maybe I should make a new forum on ours where we could discuss things like that.

          I really like this forum and the community but I really dislike the fact that I need to prove myself before I can give my opinion. It is a bit immature and not really open. I won't talk about american ideals and stuff but this is not it. I'm sorry.

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            huh? hold on. please?

            beatle, that was easily interpreted as dismissive. I apologize. I started my day on mwo with a pm exchange with Tracy that delved into some of this stuff. Unfortunately I had not finished reading the thread, only responded to some of the more terse stuff.
            It turned out, of course, that things had moved right along and all was well. That's all I was trying to say.

            Tracy, I could tell you were having a bac-glo-day. yay! Don't know what that says about the goal, but it's a nice reprieve.

            Anonymity. Here's what I've figured out about you:
            You had a profound experience with bac. One nearing something spiritual. That part of your story (and I only read the original one, don't know if you've changed it) really resonated with me. In fact, it's the reason I decided you were indeed who you write that you are. I get it. It's that profound for me, too.

            You're young-ish. A perfectionist. Randy. And you like girls, rather than boys. That's here on the forum. You have a sense of humor, and a sense of indignation. I like that.

            You're on hallowed ground here at MWO. A lot of history (several years anyway) and a lot of friendships born of fire, and a lot of people looking for hope. I can't just pick up and leave. It gave me hope and then a new life.

            A bac forum is a beautiful thing. It might not happen over night. It will happen. I'm looking forward to participating, but can't until this weekend.

            It's not an American thing. It's a bac thing. A disease thing. A mwo thing. imo.

            It's fun that you're participating. Hang in there. Okay?

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              I'm sorry maybe I overreacted. It was a bit late tonight and I was a bit grumpy. I'm sorry.

              I will stay in here and help you and others. Feel free to ask me questions.

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                Anon, I think your forum will be very valuable. For one thing, there is someone physically present who can do things that would further the discussion, like adding forums when needed. Right now, MWO is running on what it had five years ago, and there really is not anyone around to keep the site up to date. The founder is not longer interested in the MWO site. If Roberta ever gets tired of this site, maybe decides that it is a financial drain, etc., it could be gone - just like that.

                I think you're forum is the perfect place to discuss things like you mentioned in your post. The only concern that I have about your forum is that it still feels a bit chilly to me (a girly girl who likes warm fuzzies and jokes and silliness and being with people going through the same journey). I think that will probably come naturally as more people gravitate toward your site. When it gets a little busier, I even have a couple ideas to promote it. But we need to get some human-to-human connection going there, IMO, before people (especially women) are going to want to dip their toes in the water. Right now, it's very scientific, very informative, very chilly, very male. Just my opinion.

                Obviously though, I love that you are doing this. We've already talked in PM about the other stuff.
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                  TracyA;1074342 wrote: Anon, I think your forum will be very valuable. For one thing, there is someone physically present who can do things that would further the discussion, like adding forums when needed. Right now, MWO is running on what it had five years ago, and there really is not anyone around to keep the site up to date. The founder is not longer interested in the MWO site. If Roberta ever gets tired of this site, maybe decides that it is a financial drain, etc., it could be gone - just like that.

                  I think you're forum is the perfect place to discuss things like you mentioned in your post. The only concern that I have about your forum is that it still feels a bit chilly to me (a girly girl who likes warm fuzzies and jokes and silliness and being with people going through the same journey). I think that will probably come naturally as more people gravitate toward your site. When it gets a little busier, I even have a couple ideas to promote it. But we need to get some human-to-human connection going there, IMO, before people (especially women) are going to want to dip their toes in the water. Right now, it's very scientific, very informative, very chilly, very male. Just my opinion.

                  Obviously though, I love that you are doing this. We've already talked in PM about the other stuff.
                  Yes you are right about that but this are the things I am interested in, and I am a male I really like some input about what to add and how to make it feel more as a home for people. Change the template or something?

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                    Anon, because I am already emotionally invested in MWO, I guess it want it to look more like MWO. I'm not sure that in itself is a good reason to change your site. I don't know if that's what you would want to do anyway, but here's my off-the-top-of-my-head, MWO-groupie thoughts.

                    One of the things I like about here is the way that people can personalize their profiles, so when I see a post from a person that I've been following, I feel a connection to whatever is in that little square. I guess it's sort of like the marketing concept of branding. I like the emoticons too. I'm not adverse to "text-only" sites, but most forum-type sites nowadays are a bit more peppy.

                    Doing a side-by-side comparison, the MWO forums are easier on my eyes - but that's just my tired 'ol eyes (and possibly my affection for MWO). Other people might have different preferences. The screen names being in red is glaring to me and uncomfortable - again, just to my eyes. I'd lose all the red, if it were me - but it's not, it's your site - so it does need to reflect you.

                    I realize that everything I have written reflects the appearance of the site - but appearance matters to me. Many of us are very visually-inclined people, and how some people feel about a site is going to be, at least in the immediate sense, affected by the aesthetics of a site. Again, that may not be true for everyone. From just the perspective getting people hooked when they first visit the site - eye candy matters. This is all IMO, so I really hope that other people chime in on this.

                    Also, I don't mind that MWO is supported by advertising (although most of it advertising for MWO). If you need to get some "corporate sponsors" to help with expenses on your site, I would not mind that. I doubt that most people would, so long as the supporters in some way support the purpose of your site. Does that make sense?
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                      Another thought, Anon, for the future - if you are looking for a boatload of work . You could do a full-blown website instead of just a forum. And I know how much work that is. But that way the most important information, the really critical, very basic stuff that people looking at baclofen need to know, could be on website pages. The forum would be part of the website, and more specific, scientific information, could still be kept in the forum. It's a little difficult to find the most basic information on your site (it's difficult on this site too). Just a thought.
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                        Thanks for you support Tracy!

                        I'm going to find a different template for the forum, this one is a bit too clinical I agree.
                        I'm also going to look after some emoticons, I totally agree on you

                        A full blown website might be added in the future, at the moment I dont have time for that.

                        What I think what is happening to me is that I always was a pure intellectual, because of my severe depression and almost suicide I learnt empathy. Now with the baclofen I learn what taste and social interactions are. The first day I took baclofen I was just saying Hi to everybody on the street looking totally childish haha

                        Again, thank you and I will take these point to improve the website.

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                          Just added a social corner

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                            New emoticons installed

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                              It's quiet over there, I know.

                              If you build it they will come.
                              do you know the reference, anonymity?
                              It's silly and trite, I know but it's true, I think.

                              I hope you'll stay the course. It's just time. Momentum takes time. And energy and honesty and singleness of purpose and whatever...
                              Now I'm blathering like a real idiot. :H

                              There are some newbies over there, looking for help and hope, too. I'll say hi today.

                              :ls
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