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[Longshot]

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Wonderful, my government have seized both th seroquel and my next two ships of bac!

[ignominious]

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I really hate authority.

[Longshot]

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ignominious;1069011 wrote: I really hate authority.

They've admitted to seizing the seroquel, which fair enough has got some fairly, ahem recreational, uses.

But the Bac was about a 3 month supply. I'm sure they're staring at about 10 bottles of Bach and thinking, "this can't be for personal use," and "do we have a dealer for muscle relaxants now".

So the Bac sits on a shelf, and I have to look at my dwindling supplies, and figure out how to ration it out.

We figure if nothing else happens I can do a rapid titrate down to zero with what we have.

[ignominious]

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Still loath authority. WTF. M@th#rf$%^*rs

If your Doc doesn't come through with a script have you considered calling Dr Chick in Scotland?

I was in England recently for the first time in nearly 5 years. Honestly thought that Doctors would be amenable to new reasonable ideas. Sorely mistaken. In retrospect I would have called Dr Chick (think that's the spelling and think he's in Edinburgh) and tried to employ his services.

[Longshot]

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ignominious;1069034 wrote: Still loath authority. WTF. M@th#rf$%^*rs

If your Doc doesn't come through with a script have you considered calling Dr Chick in Scotland?

I was in England recently for the first time in nearly 5 years. Honestly thought that Doctors would be amenable to new reasonable ideas. Sorely mistaken. In retrospect I would have called Dr Chick (think that's the spelling and think he's in Edinburgh) and tried to employ his services.

I could call Dr Chick and then drive to NI and pick up the script. Fucking bullshit

[ignominious]

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Yeah, fucking bullshit.

That's what I would try. Don't know id he will prescribe over the phone but he might know a Doctor in Ireland whos on board

[Murphyx]

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Does Chick prescribe? I thought he would just speak to your GP. I'm probably wrong.

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So indifference.

I should describe myself first.

I've been on 300 plus since before Christmas. As high as 450, I'm now on 330. All the major side effects, the worst being crippling insomnia.

Life has been unbearably shit these last five months. First working too much then working not at all. I've been unemployed since January. And it's been crap. Every job opportunity has crashed and burned. I now face the fact I need to leave home again and move back to london.

Booze doesn't fix it anymore. No urge, no desire, I'd love to drink to fix this, but there's no will. I like to drink I was at a wedding at the weekend, and really wanted to drink to relax and unwind, but I didn't, I was bored as hell, but I didn't drink.

Today again more bad news, and again I wanted to drink, but that wouldn't fix anything. So I didn't.

The switch is something bland something ordinary. I'd like to drink and be normal, but I know thats something that I'll have to work towards, my friends will need to see me sober and normal, as will my family. But I'm prepared to work to earn that trust.

So theres the switch. It just kind of creeps up on you, there's no glorious epiphany, no magic moment, just the dawning realisation that booze isn't the be all and end all of life.

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Hey Longshot, I can relate to your switch. I sometimes get nostalgic for beer, and other times when I'm really stressed out wish I could take/drink *something* to escape from it for a while. Booze just doesn't do it for me anymore. I forget to think about it most of the time and when I do crack the odd one open, it's always kind of blah and off-putting. But I have no regrets. It feels like I've won the lottery in a way. I don't drink because I have no desire to, it's effortless. I can even have a beer if I really want one, but almost never do. I do sleep pretty well however, and I'm sorry that you're still having trouble. Hopefully it will get better with time. -tk

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terryk;1101699 wrote: Hey Longshot, I can relate to your switch. I sometimes get nostalgic for beer, and other times when I'm really stressed out wish I could take/drink *something* to escape from it for a while. Booze just doesn't do it for me anymore. I forget to think about it most of the time and when I do crack the odd one open, it's always kind of blah and off-putting. But I have no regrets. It feels like I've won the lottery in a way. I don't drink because I no desire to, it's effortless. I can even have a beer if I really want one, but almost never do. I do sleep pretty well however, and I'm sorry that you're still having trouble. Hopefully it will get better with time. -tk

My not sleeping has to do with stress and tension nothing more.

I've found I've re discovered the taste of beer. Years ago I stopped drinking beer because it didn't get me drunk enough fast enough. Now I like a decent pale ale.

I'd like wine with dinner. I would have liked champagne at the wedding. I wish I could have learnt to drink like normal people years ago. C'est la vie

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It's not over, Longshot, not by a longshot . I'd say you're still recovering from what turned out to be a pretty radical shot at finding your way out. Try some supplements to feed your brain and your body. From what you've described it sounds like you're just kind of all used up, no offence! I've listed all this someplace else, but can never find it, so here goes:

L-Glutamine: 8-10 GRAMS 2 x/day (this is way more than recommended, but approved by my GP).
Rice-based All One: 1 heaping tablespoon/day
P-5-P: 1 tab/day - helps everything get into the brain
GABA: 1/4 tsp 2-3 x/day
Fish Oil: I can't take the capsules, although someone here suggested freezing them then taking them. I just buy it as oil and add it to my morning blend.
Vit D3: 1 capsule in the morning and more during the day if you feel the need for a little mood uplift.
Taurine: 1/4 tsp 1x/day
L-theonine: Try one capsule in the morning. If it makes you sleepy, take it at night.

I buy the powder version of as many of these things as I can so I can mix it all up with an elelctrolyte juice/water of some kind. Over here it's Gatorade or Re-Charge or Vitamin Water. Your kidneys will thank you for the electrolytes and your gut and brain and the rest of your body will thank you for the rest of it.

These are all "calming" neurotransmitters that stimulate the seratonin pathways. They should help you mellow down. There are others that stimulate the dopamine and neuropenepharine pathways if you find yourself wanting a little more "up" and focus. I know, I know, it's a lot of sh**t to take. I've actually been extremely health/food/supplement conscious my entire life and I've NEVER taken any vitamin, herb or supplement before because I never found that they made any difference.

This time has been very different for me, though. I started from info here in the holistic health section just hoping to repair a little of the dain-bramage from alcohol. Then did more research and kept adding things.

Start at the top of the list and add things as you can/feel inspired.

I just checked and the place I buy all of this stuff Vitamins & Supplements - Buy Discount Vitamins Online - Vitacost does deliver internationally.

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I checked out vitacost. The prices are phenomenal. Thanks Red T.

Hi Longshot,

Are all your other SE's other than insomnia, resolved now? If so, how long did it take them to resolve?

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redhead77;1102353 wrote: I checked out vitacost. The prices are phenomenal. Thanks Red T.

Hi Longshot,

Are all your other SE's other than insomnia, resolved now? If so, how long did it take them to resolve?

I still have a fuzz, head clamped kind of feel. And still have brutal insomnia, but all other side effects has gone away.

They've been going on for months.

I've no other side effects worth mentioning.

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Longshot,

Have you gone to your doctor about the insomnia?

I know Seroquel works well, although not sure about the drug interaction because Baclofen makes me sleep heavily. Vivid dreams, etc.

But, if you are titrated down, perhaps it is safe.

Ask your doctor. Seroquel and Trazodone are two drugs that can help and they are non-addictive.

Cindi

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Cinders;1102685 wrote: Longshot,

Have you gone to your doctor about the insomnia?

I know Seroquel works well, although not sure about the drug interaction because Baclofen makes me sleep heavily. Vivid dreams, etc.

But, if you are titrated down, perhaps it is safe.

Ask your doctor. Seroquel and Trazodone are two drugs that can help and they are non-addictive.

Cindi

My doctor is okay. We've gone with stilnox, halcion and zopiclone (my doctor will not prescribe me benzos because of my addiction).

I get seroquel from abroad, and that helps me sleep, but I find it leaves me very depressed. Trazodone was also suggested by the psychiatrist, but was poo poo'd by my liver function tests, and they suggested Prozac, which I declined.

My problem at the moment is that I am unemployed in the middle of one of the worst hit countries by the global depression, I can't differentiation my side effects with that of being in a slump because of being out of work for months at time.

I work freelance and I am simply never unemployed when in London. I have three potential job offers in play that won't be going anywhere till later next month, and all but one of them will require me to move country.

I'm struck with personal paralysis and lethargy. And yes occasionally the somnolence, and insomnia on bac really doesn't help, and my head feels like I'm in a vice.

So I've sobered up at a time where I need to sober, but don't have anything to be sober for. Wonderful.