Drinking while starting bac

[konakt]

Drinking while starting bac

Wow! and Muchos Thanks! is all I can say to all of you for taking the time to give your sage input and truth-telling. It is incredibly helpful, and I can honestly say I have NEVER posted on any forum in my life, so it feels like sticking my neck out there was not so bad, didn't even get a scratch. I never even spoke in an AA meeting, so this is all new to me... You all give such practical nuggets (regimen, who knew?) and make so much sense (and funny!--that is a big damn plus).

Will check in later as must whip up a frozen dinner that looks like the real thing concoction.

Mahalos from KT

[DayByDay01]

Drinking while starting bac

bleep;1065669 wrote: Day, have you considered that might be too slow? You could be prolonging the agony unnecessarily.

Thanks for caring Bleep, but it what my doc told me to do. Adding 10mg every week. That , according my doc (you know who he is) will help me with my SEs

[bleep]

Drinking while starting bac

Cool, so long as you are happy.

Good luck friend.

[Guest]

Drinking while starting bac

KT

That feeling lasted around about 1 month, and in the meantime I got into the habit of picking up the alcoholpops every night. WHAM a new habit was formed. I started to crave the taste of the stuff, switching to cherry pop was a cunning plan that also failed because it didn't quite have quite the same taste or effect. Even though I have far fewer if any cravings at the moment I have found myself wanting those alcohopops if anything goes ever so slightly wrong. So it's set up a addiction pattern/association with me.

I can tell you this that if I drink even a few units before bed on bac, the next day I'm not fit for anything apart from lying around sleeping. Not a hangover as such but gave me a feeling that the alcohol was sort of 'extended' if you will - but I remember seeing someone quote recently about it being 'additive' to sedatives, which alcohol is of course.

So in my case there were two issues, not being able to do anything if I did drink, and a new behavioural thingy was set up fairly quickly which I found very scary. Then again don't they say a new habit can be formed in 30 days?

[beatle]

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Ukblonde;1065706 wrote: That feeling lasted around about 1 month, and in the meantime I got into the habit of picking up the alcoholpops every night.
Don't know what an alcoholpop is, but I can imagine (oh yes, I can)

Ukblonde;1065706 wrote:
I can tell you this that if I drink even a few units before bed on bac, the next day I'm not fit for anything apart from lying around sleeping. Not a hangover as such but gave me a feeling that the alcohol was sort of 'extended' if you will...

I don't have this effect at all. In fact, the opposite. It makes me think of the alcoholic types Joan Larson sets out in Seven Weeks to Sobriety (which I read about Seven Years ago, for whatever good that did me)

As I recall, and please recall that my short term (and medium-term, and heck, long-term memory, too) are shot and riddled, there were/are 3 (?) types of alcoholics (and maybe subsets?).

Wish I remembered more. (I threw out my copy in a frenzy of cleaning out my past (as if).)

While reading your post, UK (in a drunken, bac-ed out haze), I remembered (sort of) this idea of the different types of alcoholics, and realized (in an epiphany-like moment -- as if) that this may account for some of the reason(s) that we have such varying and drastically different reactions to/experiences with baclofen and drinking.

Don't remember which type I was, but I'm pretty sure it was the worst kind (as in most resistant to cure), not surprisingly.

Ukblonde;1065706 wrote: Then again don't they say a new habit can be formed in 30 days?

Never heard this (or probably I did, but just don't remember:H). Makes sense, though. Except in my case, 5 days is probably more accurate than 30 days.:upset:

[Guest]

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beatle;1065721 wrote: Don't know what an alcoholpop is, but I can imagine (oh yes, I can)



I don't have this effect at all. In fact, the opposite. It makes me think of the alcoholic types Joan Larson sets out in Seven Weeks to Sobriety (which I read about Seven Years ago, for whatever good that did me)

As I recall, and please recall that my short term (and medium-term, and heck, long-term memory, too) are shot and riddled, there were/are 3 (?) types of alcoholics (and maybe subsets?).

Wish I remembered more. (I threw out my copy in a frenzy of cleaning out my past (as if).)

While reading your post, UK (in a drunken, bac-ed out haze), I remembered (sort of) this idea of the different types of alcoholics, and realized (in an epiphany-like moment -- as if) that this may account for some of the reason(s) that we have such varying and drastically different reactions to/experiences with baclofen and drinking.

Don't remember which type I was, but I'm pretty sure it was the worst kind (as in most resistant to cure), not surprisingly.



Never heard this (or probably I did, but just don't remember:H). Makes sense, though. Except in my case, 5 days is probably more accurate than 30 days.:upset:

Alcohopops are drinks that are designed to appeal to women or teenagers. Came about during the rave era of the early 90s to attract party goers back to alcohol - I joke not it was part of an article I read in a broadsheet last year on the clever "alcohol industry".They usually taste like fizzy drinks, are brightly coloured and highly flavoured full of sugar and sweetners.

Yes we are all different, and need to remember this. This was a major stumbling block I found when trying to post on my experiences, how drinking and taking baclofen was affecting MY life. I have found this in other areas - not just this forum in life. So many people are assumed to have a certain lifestyle, when the 'standard' isn't applicable to a many.

[konakt]

Drinking while starting bac

Feeling bit more hopeful

Nev--

Thanks for sharing the not so great issues with SE's that are yet to come for me...forewarned, and all that. I guess just that fact that taking the pills has made such a profound change in your (and pretty much everyone on here)'s drinking, some more, some less--gives me a lot more hope than when I was waiting for the pills to arrive with great trepidation. I still have not told my husband that I have now decided that buying pills online from India is my new big plan to change my life. He would really think I'd lost my last marble...I am hoping the change in my behavior (as in not picking drunken fights, not crying and overreacting to life's bumps, actually wanting to go out on a beautiful Hawaiian day and not having corks and corkscrews falling out of my underwear drawer...) will speak for itself. I love Bleep's comparing taking bac to chewing bubblegum to stop drinking! Damn expensive gum...

Do you now buy pills by the boatload? I have only placed 2 orders so far (only at 30 per day atm)...but I did read the posts about how the numbers exponentially change and all I can say is Yikes! I am still hanging in there with the concept of needing to be on a med for the rest of my life, as I've been on Zoloft for 15 yrs and understand the difference between being addicted, versus having withdrawals from something you're not addicted to. If I go a day without the Z, I get the whoops! just got off an elevator feeling in my brain...

Please don't feel even a bit green about living here--as my GP told me when I moved here, you should assume that every other person behind the wheel here is using something...that's why so many AL related accidents here are fatal, because we're all driving on these two-lane highways. Terrifies me to think about when my daughter starts driving...It's an odd mix of people who live here (the Big Island). I think many of us just kind of washed up here after shipwrecking our lives on the mainland--don't they call it "doing a geographic" in AA? The great escape, if you will. But as you well know, the whole drill of drinking and then berating oneself for drinking sort of takes the sparkle out of any place. Could be anywhere--and nowhere. (OK, I will say, wearing shorts and T shirt everyday is a good thing. And okay, watching the sunset from my hammock is another) But do I even remember any of it while being smashed on the hammock? Not so much.

So I'm slowly slowly just taking the pills. BTW, I think getting to where you are in 5 months sounds absolutely fantastic and not slow at all--but of course, I wasn't experiencing the horrible SE's that you so painfully describe. But you made it!! So great to hear!!

My husband doesn't drink, but I'm wondering your new AF-ness makes it harder to witness your hubby's drinking, knowing that there's nothing anyone can say to make a change, unless the person wants it. Is that a difficult factor to deal with, or do you hope to inspire through example?

Thanks again for putting your story out here.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

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konakt;1066092 wrote: I still have not told my husband that I have now decided that buying pills online from India is my new big plan to change my life.:H:H It is INSANE isn't it?

Yes, I buy pills by the boatload. Seethepony (a great wit) said I was taking the North American supply of bac. Maybe not the North American, but I think it might be pretty accurate to say that there are a lot of low-dose-bac spasticity patients who may have to wait a day or two after I refill my prescription! Now I call a couple of days ahead so they have enough. Seriously. I'm also going to order some from overseas so I have bac-ups for my bac-ups. This stuff gave me life, it is not to be trivialized.

How much YOU order is up to you, of course. Most people will not have to go as high, or take that much for as long as I have. But you will be taking it for a loooong time is my guess. And there will always be someone who, ahem, will take it off your hands if you decide not to continue.

konakt;1066092 wrote: you should assume that every other person behind the wheel here is using something...that's why so many AL related accidents here are fatal, because we're all driving on these two-lane highways. Did your gp know that you were one of them? :H Kidding, of course, and the matter of your daughter driving is very scary. I don't mean to make light of that fact. However, I don't know how it's so different than say, Dublin on a Friday night. Or my town on a Saturday. Or Thursday, for that matter. Look at Murphy's recent posts. (v. funny! but also sadly true.)
And oh, to die in paradise. Then again, the weather in say, Costa Rica is lovely and the good food doesn't have to be imported at exorbitant cost!

konakt;1066092 wrote: So I'm slowly slowly just taking the pills. BTW, I think getting to where you are in 5 months sounds absolutely fantastic and not slow at all--but of course, I wasn't experiencing the horrible SE's that you so painfully describe. But you made it!! So great to hear!!

yep, yep and a resounding YES! The chorus of angels is still singing loudly! You don't have to experience the SEs that I did! Most people don't. You've written the bottom line, right there. just keep taking the damn pills. (jkttdp!) :H

konakt;1066092 wrote: Thanks again for putting your story out here.

Thanks for reading it. and you're welcome. It's a little painful, but well worth it. I'm flattered and chagrined that people are reading it.
I nominate chagrined as my word for the day.
Hope you wake to a beautiful sunrise in a few short hours. The sun has just come up here and the city is glowing that pink and blue only found in the wee hours when one is not hungover. What a gift. I'm off to run around and soak it up. You all will be with me.
:h
Karen/Ne

[bleep]

Drinking while starting bac

How's things going along so far KT?

konakt;1067981 wrote: ...
Please repeat how many days you've been AL free and levels of bac.....

I'm on about 270/300mg's at the moment, down from a peak of 450mg's. Abstinence was never really a goal of mine, I've always wanted to be a "normal" drinker, which now I am. I drink less than my wife and my mates, actually!

A lot of days roll by with no boozing, then I'll fancy a glass of nice wine. I try and hide the bottle so that it doesn't get fopped by either my wife or my mother-in-law! Sometimes a second glass will follow, but by halfway through that I generally lose the taste for it.

If you had asked me if this was possible 2 months ago, I would have burst out laughing.

[bleep]

Drinking while starting bac

KT, how's life outside the mom's thread?

Still going well, I hope?

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Drinking while starting bac

Morning, KT. I don't know if you're done with bac, done with MWO, or simply lurking and waiting...

I can't imagine being able to resist the pull of this place, myself. I can understand being overwhelmed or getting fed up with it, for sure.

I hope you're well. That you've happily moved on or are just tongue-tied. Please know that there are a bunch of people here who appreciate your input and are looking forward to hearing from you again. (myself, of course, but there are others!)
xo