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    Great to hear Evey! The benefits are indeed amazing.

    Rudy, I have a great respect for teachers - some teachers. There were three in my life that I came across that changed my life, the rest were all blah. But those 3, man, what a difference they made. If you are one of those, those teachers that actually shape people and help them, that actually TEACH people, then I take my hat off to you.

    Ne, you're right, peacocks are cool. They are best served in a marinade, otherwise they're too dry. We're going to have to agree to disagree on the whole pet thing, but if my job here ever goes tits up, I'm shooting straight over to the States to open up a pet business. Dog whisperer for $50? Easy game.

    And so far Ne, thank you, it's a great evening!

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      Hey all! Been in kinda a dark place for a couple of days, just feeling generally down and helpless. I think I'm coming out on the other side though. It's funny, as much as I hate my job, having a few days off by myself throws me into a tailspin. Guess I need the structure or something.
      Ruby, I think what you do sounds awesome! The world needs more people like you and my dad! And I'm glad there's another newbie around.
      Ne, predators are a big issue with peacocks. My family's peacocks are in a large pen with a top and also fencing that goes a few feet underground to prevent anything from digging in.
      Bleep, I think it's important to remember that America is a land of extremes, and for every pampered pet, there's probably 5 that are abused or neglected.
      Evey, stick with it! It sounds like you've made great progress so far!
      In a hurry, that's all I got.
      Hope you all are doing well!
      "Yet someday this will have an end
      All choices made or choice resigned,
      And in your face the literal eye
      Trace little of your history,
      Nor ever piece the tale entire
      Of villages that had to burn
      And playgrounds of the will destroyed
      Before you could be safe from time
      And gather in your brow and air
      The stillness of antiquity."

      From "At Majority" by Adrienne Rich

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        Manoman. Time off was my mortal enemy. I always longed for Saturday, when I could start drinking in the afternoon. And by Saturday eve I was longing for Monday. By Sunday morning I hoped I would be able to get up on Monday morning. ya' know?
        Down is a pretty normal way to feel, I guess. Not much I can offer there. Helpless you are not. You're here, reaching out, taking the meds, doing what you need to be doing. Take a walk or exercise or something. That always makes me feel a little more powerful. Also, rap music! :H Seriously. Need a little false bravado? Tap into one of those guys that EXIST on that stuff. (Eminem Recovery is my all time fave.) With a warning: explicit lyrics. lots of bull shit. annoying and downright insulting comments about women. But not the really evil stuff. Also avoid the song with Rihanna, she's just pathetic in that song. They both are. Ok. enough with the rap. (middle aged woman listening to rap also makes me lol. I started because I was tired of the whiney folky chicks I listen to!)
        Find SOMETHING is my point. That reminds you that you are large and in charge, and that you'll be particularly strong when you're well.
        That's all!
        Ne

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          How about this one:
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUBnxqEVKlk[/video]]YouTube - ‪Helen Reddy - 'I Am Woman' (Live) 1975‬‏

          :H:H:H:H

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            RudyB;1117991 wrote: Murph, I love your love for Windy's dad. You must love me, too, then. I work with mostly 8th graders (14 yrs old) in the poorest district in NY state. Many of them are definitely very troubled, and come from NADA. Thanks for the appreciation.
            Of course I love you for that and other reasons besides.

            Although I'm confused about them coming from the National Association of Dental Assistants. No wonder they are troubled.

            The unexamined life is not worth living

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              Hello,

              Just wanted to check in.

              Currently, I am taking 170mgs of Baclofen. It seems to be doing the trick. It's a little hard for me to imagine that a few weeks ago; I drank so much at this same level. Maybe it was due to the new Baclofen, who knows.

              I am having a lot of AF days; the majority of the days are AF. I have been testing myself, by purposely putting the idea of drinking into my head and visualizing myself having the drink. Someone referred to it as pinging that seems like a good analogy for the process. The majority of the time, the idea of drinking just turns me off. A few times, drinking a beer seemed like an okay idea. The only time where I have been able to drink a whole beer was when I went down by 20 mg so that I could come home and not crash. It's weird how Bac can change your taste in drinking. Red wine is definitely out now.

              My sleep is really good now. I have been taking sleeping aids that work, but hopefully when I go back down a little, they won't be a necessity, not wanting to get hooked on sleep pills.

              It seems like some of the sleep disturbances were coming from waking up due to problems with my shoulder. I went to see a chiropractor for an initial evaluation. This probably seems a little paranoid, but I was wondering if he is going to be able to notice that I am taking a muscle relaxer. When I went to the appointment, it was early in the day and I had only taken 30mg of Bac. Hopefully, he will attribute the difference in muscle tension to something else.

              Also, Bleep, you were mentioning before being able to have my work performance measured while on Baclofen. My productivity is at an all time high. It's hard to believe, but that's what the numbers show.


              WCL, How are you? I Hope you are feeling better. Have you increased the amount of Baclofen that you are taking?

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                I can easily believe it Evey, I noticed the same effect myself. Once the baclofen fog cleared a little I was astonished at how effective I was. Some of it has to do with not being hungover, and not thinking about booze all the time, but there is a definite effect from baclofen as well.

                Strangely, I'm also having shoulder issues. I think mine comes from sleeping on it and not moving, but that's only a guess really. At one point I had to carefully choose the position I fell asleep in so as not to stress anywhere, I think I need to start doing that again.

                I doubt you chiropractor will find anything strange about your muscles. If he had he would surely have commented at the time?

                You sound like you're doing great! It is wonderful to read about!

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                  Evey;1122282 wrote: I am having a lot of AF days; the majority of the days are AF.
                  ...
                  It's weird how Bac can change your taste in drinking. Red wine is definitely out now.
                  ...
                  My sleep is really good now. I have been taking sleeping aids that work, but hopefully when I go back down a little, they won't be a necessity, not wanting to get hooked on sleep pills.
                  ...
                  It seems like some of the sleep disturbances were coming from waking up due to problems with my shoulder.
                  ...
                  My productivity is at an all time high. It's hard to believe, but that's what the numbers show.
                  ...
                  WCL, How are you? I hope you are feeling better.
                  wow! and YAY! Congrats, Evey.
                  I quoted all of the SEs I've experienced. Interesting to me how many of us have these in common.

                  The shoulder thing? I'm absolutely convinced it's a bac SE and unrelated to sleeping position. My right side, from ear to fingers, gets numb/achey/tingly sometimes. It was my first and most profoundly disturbing SE, honestly. (well, that and the eye-thing.) Because WAY bac in the day, I took too much and everything went numb and felt unusable.

                  It sounds like you're planning on going down sooner rather than later? Why? And if you're still drinking against your will, at all, why wouldn't you go up? Better now than later, in my experience.

                  What's up Windy?
                  xo, eve :l and :h
                  Ne

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                    The reason for staying at the 170 is that I feel a sense of indifference. I really do not think about alcohol that much at all. It may not seem that way, because my updates are weekly and do not include many other topics. I wouldn?t say that I am drinking against my will. On 2 occasions this week, I thought a beer would go good with dinner, but I was only able to drink half of it. I do push past the first sip, thinking it will taste better and not wanting to waste it. One day this week, I drank 1 ? beers after taking my dose from 170 to 150. My husband who doesn?t really drink, will sometimes pick up a 6-pack of cheap beer that sits in the fridge forever, ugh. I haven?t had any inclination to drink those, not that I usually do, but back when the beast was active and nothing else was in the house, it would have been a possibility. Also, my cherished wine has sat in the kitchen for one week, until last night when I poured it out. I poured a small glass of it and it tasted so terrible, even though I had it sealed well.

                    After writing all of this, I think I will go to 180. I definitely felt invincible at that amount. Taking 100 mgs was so nice though, it would be nice to get back to that place. Even though the amount of Bac is not increasing, some of the SEs seem to be, visual disturbances at night are slightly worse and teeth grinding/clenching has increased. I started wearing my whitening trays at night to try to counter the tension and after a few days; I realized that was a bad idea. I went out and bought a night guard last week. It seems to be doing the trick.

                    As far as the shoulder thing, I have found myself waking up with my shoulder squashed into the weirdest position. The shoulder pains are the worst in the early a.m. hours, when I haven?t taking any Baclofen. Obviously, going without Baclofen for a period of time is going to have an effect on the muscles.
                    Bleep, when I saw the chiropractor, I had only taken 30mg of Bac, not going to worry about it though.
                    Also, I didn?t explain it very well before. My productivity is at a high, it has been high the entire time I have been taking Bac. The quality is a whole other story.

                    Ne, Hope that your time with your parents went well. I am having my parents over for a cook-out today and I am starting to squirm. No way are they seeing my guest room. Having people over stresses me out a little, even my parents, well really just my mother. It must be nice to have confidence in being a hostess.

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                      Hey, what's this about a shoulder thing, and how come I'm only discovering it now?

                      I'd always just assumed it was from sleeping on it strangely, as it's the only thing I could think of that could explain it. It has been driving me mad. The whole numb/achey/tingly thing describes it to a tee. What have you done to help it out?

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                        Nope. Not in my case. It's definitely a bac SE. It doesn't matter how I sleep. Earlobe to fingertips numbness, always on my right side.
                        More later.

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                          Does anyone else get this? It's not much spoken about, this is the first I'm hearing. Yegads. Have you found anything that helps it? I've tried all sorts of weird things, none of which has helped at all.

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                            and does anybody think that slowed healing might be bac-related? i fell on my hand and banged my foot, two very similar injuries probably involving tendons, and they are taking their sweet time getting better. still swollen, stiff, sore, and can't clench a fist or my toes all the way.

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                              I don't know, Rudy. I've wondered the same thing, but I don't know if there is science/research to help elucidate.

                              I do know that bac helped reduce the soreness and swelling that I had from working out. And Lo0p found some research that explains it. It's on the bac and exercise thread, I think.
                              Hope it's a good day for you!

                              Evey, what's news?

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                                Hey all! Thanks for noticing I'd disapeared and saying hi in your posts. Long story short, I ran out of baclofen, neurontin (very important for my mental stability), and kudzu all at the same time. The last post I read was ne (wasn't it?) mentioning Eminem. I found myself writing an epic, incoherent post about Eminem helping me through an abusive relationship (he did), and decided I was losing touch a little. I became pretty seriously depressed and anxious, but tried not to drink myself into oblivion. I suceeced for the most part. Neurontin finally came (baclofen still hasn't!), and my mood's been a little better. I was able to get 3 days off of work and hopped on a bus to visit my family. Even though I still struggle with a lot of guilt and shame around them, it was very good for me. Drank a small amount the first night (secretly, before bed) and nothing the second night. First night AF in close to a year! So I know I can do it. Now I'm on the bus home, and I know for a fact I'm going to drink tonight . Just being honest. But I'm hoping to scale back to every other day, at the least. Gonna go ahead and order more baclofen before the previously ordered package arrives. I really want to do this right. Thanks, and I hope all's well with all of you!
                                "Yet someday this will have an end
                                All choices made or choice resigned,
                                And in your face the literal eye
                                Trace little of your history,
                                Nor ever piece the tale entire
                                Of villages that had to burn
                                And playgrounds of the will destroyed
                                Before you could be safe from time
                                And gather in your brow and air
                                The stillness of antiquity."

                                From "At Majority" by Adrienne Rich

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