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    Hey all! Can't believe you guys noticed I was gone! But how awesome of you! I was very sick from the bac, then very busy while still sick from bac. Crazy powerful nausea. But stuck with it, despite having to ask my mom to pull over so I could vomit on the side of a road. I still think my family (with the excpetion of my dad, who has actually read the studies I sent him) thinks it a little odd that I'm putting myself through this, but they're also just happy I'm doing anything proactive about my drinking. My cousin shared a room with me while I was at home, ans said I was snoring something awful, sounded to her like sleep apnea. I've read about this happening to others. Guess the bac's doin its thing. I'm up to 100 mg, and very excited. I've found that dividing the doses like everyone's been telling me to do the whole time, really dose help with the s.e.s. That said, I do feel nauseaous now after taking a whole 25mg pill instead of splitting it. Damn my laziness.
    So it was another successful trip home, even though I did drink some after everyone had gone to sleep. After years of being sullen, withdrawn, and generally no fun to be around with my family, I'm pushing myself to be a better, less self-obsessed daughter and sister. My family kept remarking upon on how nice it was to "have me back". That means the world to me. My youngest sister is now two years sober and talked about how much she's grown and learned in that time. It excites me and scares me. I'm gonna have a lot to deal with once I get clean.
    Enough about me.
    Congrats evey! Your story inspires me and gives me hope.
    Zephra, sorry you're having a rough time. Lemme know how the accupuncture goes. That's one area of alternative medicine I haven't explored, and my boyfriend suffers from excrutiating knee pain that nothing else has worked for.
    Hey ruby! Missed talking to you, and hope all's well. I was glad when you mentioned smoking "something special". I've wondered what people here feel about that. My dad and sister who are both in AA smoke from the minute they wake up (dad can grow legally cause of his cancer). That's not my plan, smoking all day, every day, but it seems like a good way to chill out at night. Especially since I have access to free, sweet homegrown.
    God, this was long, and I didn't say nearly everything I wanted to. Guess I'll just have to post more often! Thanks again, everyone, for noticing when I disapeared. But know that even when I don't post, I'm always checking in and reading what you guys are up to.
    Thanks again for being here. I plan to be AF before my 31st birthday in July, and, if it happens, I'll owe it to all of you.
    "Yet someday this will have an end
    All choices made or choice resigned,
    And in your face the literal eye
    Trace little of your history,
    Nor ever piece the tale entire
    Of villages that had to burn
    And playgrounds of the will destroyed
    Before you could be safe from time
    And gather in your brow and air
    The stillness of antiquity."

    From "At Majority" by Adrienne Rich

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      Hey Windy, good to have you back! It's good to hear you are seeing some positive effects from baclofen.

      The SE's sometimes suck, the nausea one particularly so - can you go up a level immediately? It may well disappear. This is good advice for anyone struggling particularly with a level - go past it. The SE's are dose dependent, and the shitty ones will probably disappear.

      I'm sure you will reach your goal!

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        Thanks, bleep. I just went up, so I'm gonna give it a couple days. I am still nervous about somlonence at work, but I've noticed that what you told me earlier about it is true. As long as I'm moving around and keeping busy, it's not that bad. The nausea is improving, and the divided doses do help immensely. Also, I want people to know how useful homeopathic supplements have been for me. Hyland's motion sickness formula helped with the dizziness andthe nausea, as did 30c nux vomica. And it's just cool when someone asks what you're taking to say nux vomica.
        I realize my last post wasn't crazy long, but it felt that way since it takes so long to do this on my phone. That particular post took longer than an hour to write. I also realize it has spelling mistakes, but just editting those would take forever. So, know that I think I'm more intelligent than my posts make me sound. I see a cheap laptop in my future...
        So everyone always brings up naltrexone and TSM. TSM I don't know much about, but what about just taking nal alone for cravings? I did it 8 years ago or so and it was very helpful. It was very hard on my liver, which is why I would encourage anyone interested in nal to have their enzymes checked first. But it is pretty cool stuff, as is the story and science behind it. THIQ and cutting open the brains of skid row alcoholics and all, if I remember correctly.
        "Yet someday this will have an end
        All choices made or choice resigned,
        And in your face the literal eye
        Trace little of your history,
        Nor ever piece the tale entire
        Of villages that had to burn
        And playgrounds of the will destroyed
        Before you could be safe from time
        And gather in your brow and air
        The stillness of antiquity."

        From "At Majority" by Adrienne Rich

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          windy! i havent' even read your post, but i sure am glaad you're here! now, for some reading...

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            Ruby, I already know you're gonna be pissed at me for apologizing for spelling mistakes.
            "Yet someday this will have an end
            All choices made or choice resigned,
            And in your face the literal eye
            Trace little of your history,
            Nor ever piece the tale entire
            Of villages that had to burn
            And playgrounds of the will destroyed
            Before you could be safe from time
            And gather in your brow and air
            The stillness of antiquity."

            From "At Majority" by Adrienne Rich

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              aww, windy, TWO posts!

              glad you had a good reception -and time- with your family. how gift-ish is it that your sis has suffered the same demon, huh? my sis's husband has struggled mightily w alcohol and nicotine addiction, and it is such a blessing to have someone so close to me w whom to share my ups and downs and ins and outs. and he brings me snus! (my mouth hurts from smoking! good god!)

              i am very impressed that you wrote all of that on your phone! my god, with or without that labor-intensive aspect, you should never feel bad about a) saying too much (not possible; just look at me, though others might disagree that it's NOT too much ), or b) spelling errors. who the fuck cares?! you're a delight!

              i have been cautioned not to trade one addiction for another, or complicate one w another, re: the weed. i agree, it can be tricky waters. but for me, it's not an issue. i smoke a tiny bit here and there, and it really does help get me grounded, and it does help me slow down the alcohol imbibing. i'm not saying that to lecture or to caution, even, but more just to state, ftr, that it's mighty fine stuff, when used carefully, and especially if it's home grown! lucky you!

              yep, we notice when you're not around. that's so cool, right? to be cared for by loving, smart people. fuckin rocks. i've never found it anywhere else, on a daily -if not hourly- basis.

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                ha ha ha ha ha ha ah i jsut read your latest post! not pissed at all. but look at my mistakes and tell me how much i've grown from having to comb through every post BEFORE submitting, so that i don't look like a dumb ass, especilly in light of my handicap w the shift key!

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                  Hahaha, ruby! I called you out!
                  Again, we're so lucky to have supportive family. I'm glad you have your brother in law. SNUS? Hmmmm. I recently found a tobacco store that will custom blend cigarettes for you based on your brand. They're chemical-free and only $26.50 a carton, tax included! Can't tell the difference between them and my marlboro lights. This is gonna change my life, as smokes are between $8 and $9 a pack here.
                  As for the weed, I wouldn't really be trading one addiction for another. I didn't mention before that I've been a daily smoker for many years. In my opinion, the only negative consequence I suffered from being "addicted" to weed was spending money on it, and now that's not an issue. It is super weird to be home at my parents' where I did so much sneaking around to hide my drinking and drugging and be offered a joint by my dad. My dad!
                  Also, I did locate a therapist in my area who offers sliding scale payments and specializes in substance abuse. I debated on whether to look for someone who specializes in addiction. Their knowledge would be useful, but I don't want the 12 steps jammed down my throat. I think I'll email her and say as much. I think I'll take an approach of "Bored with your garden variety alcoholics? Have I got a challenge got for you!"
                  I really need to drop in on everyone's individual threads and see how you guys are doing. Until I do, where's your dosage at now, ruby? How are you feeling?
                  I'm gonna chill at 100 mg for a day or two more, then go up. The divided doses are working wonders in terms of lessening side effects. Even just 45 minutes between doses makes a difference.
                  Thanks all! Hope you guys are having a good night!
                  "Yet someday this will have an end
                  All choices made or choice resigned,
                  And in your face the literal eye
                  Trace little of your history,
                  Nor ever piece the tale entire
                  Of villages that had to burn
                  And playgrounds of the will destroyed
                  Before you could be safe from time
                  And gather in your brow and air
                  The stillness of antiquity."

                  From "At Majority" by Adrienne Rich

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                    Cool that you're finding lots of little doses to be helpful. I think that along with helping the SE's it is also more efficient that way. Of course I could be completely wrong, but it has worked for me.

                    I used to be a daily smoker as well, I loved my dope. Then one day a few years ago, I had a joint, and it made me tired and unpleasantly stoned, so I went to bed. The next the same thing, so after about 3 days of this, I just stopped smoking. It broke my heart. Even now, if I have puff, I get the same effect.

                    Smokes here are between 50 cents and $1 a packet, depending on the quality you are after. Nothing but the finest for someone as refined as myself, so I'm on the $1 packets.

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                      oh my god! you guys are lucky -or not!- they're ten bucks a pack here! another fine reason to quit!

                      windy, cool about your dad! i know, it's so cool not to have to hide from your folks. and just imagine the day when there's nothing to hide. imagine that. sure, i'll have a beer or a glass of wine. sip away, maybe not finish it 'cause you won't need to.

                      not long ago i smoked up right in front of my mom. she was two feet away from me. no hiding there! i told my bro about it and he thought that was totally weird. hard to imagine if you haven't done it yourself.

                      i get to take my son to work today! i'm so excited to parade him around. he is just about the cutest kid on the planet, objectively speaking. and he looks just like me.

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                        windy, did you ask me about my dosage? i'm up to 190 as of yesterday or so. i feel pretty good. tired still, especially as i tend to wake at 4 am and don't always go back to sleep. i'm still drinking, sometimes a lot. in fact, i find the urge to do so to be stronger than at lower doses. weird. but is it the urge or the habit that keeps me running back? probably a combo of both. no matter. soon neither will be there, i rest assured from all the others here who have reached indifference.

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                          Hey Windy,

                          Good to hear that you had another great trip with your family. It's great that your family communicates so openly and that you are able to discuss with them the fact that you take Baclofen. Kudos to your father for being in AA but still being so supportive of you although you are taking a less conventional route.

                          You mentioned somnolence at work. The Piracetam does seem to be helping. It gives you the focus of drinking coffee without the amped feeling. Sometimes, I take the Piracetam along with l-glut and use it in place of coffee.

                          Can't wait to hear how the therapists responds to your email. That's a great way to weed out a good, receptive therapist from a bad one.

                          Sounds like things are going good. Can't wait to hear more.

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                            Oh, I didn't mean to ignore you Rudy. I really like the new quote in your signature!

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                              Hey all! How did taking your son to work go, ruby? How old is he? You work with troubled kids, right? I know what you're saying about separating craving from habit. A lot of times I think I probably wouldn't drink, but there's always someone at home saying "here's your half of the fifth." That's pretty hard to turn down. Congrats on 190!
                              Thanks, evey! How's life post-switch treating you? I am very interested in piracetam. A couple things concern me though. I know it acts somehow on GABA, as does the bac, the neurontin that I take, and the straight GABA I also take. Will I burn out my poor little GABA receptors? Also, I've read that it can heal past damage done by alcohol, but that if taken while drinking, can increase the harmful effects of alcohol on the brain. But I'm definitely interested in it. Just don't know how to find answers to these questions.
                              I was having a really hard time yesterday. Did some math, and realized my new bac has to get here very soon for me to be able to go up or even maintain my current dose. Got to feeling kinda hopeless, like this is never gonna happen for me. But I did some reading on different threads here today, and realized that 100mg isn't as insignifcant a dosage I was feeling it was. A lot of people are really struggling with 60mg, and some achieve indifference as low as 100. So I said screw it, and went up to 125 today. According to the USPS website, my bac has left India, so maybe it will all work out. In any case, I won't run out, I'll just have to drop back down temporarily.
                              Completely unrelated, my aforementioned sociopathic, terrifying boss made me put eyedrops in his eyes. Giving eyedrops to someone you've repeatedly fantasized about murdering is a unique experience. I don't reccomed it.
                              Hope everyone's doing well in their corners of the world. Especially bleep with his $1 packs of smokes!
                              "Yet someday this will have an end
                              All choices made or choice resigned,
                              And in your face the literal eye
                              Trace little of your history,
                              Nor ever piece the tale entire
                              Of villages that had to burn
                              And playgrounds of the will destroyed
                              Before you could be safe from time
                              And gather in your brow and air
                              The stillness of antiquity."

                              From "At Majority" by Adrienne Rich

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                                hey windy! i'm practically tipping over here with tired, but i had to take a moment to respond to your post.

                                my golly, good luck w the bac. i know how nerve-wracking it is to wait on the brink of your seat, hoping you get it in time. and i think your thinking about 125 is great, if you can afford to go up w your questionable supply, that is. you know what the wise people say: going up and down can be a mind fuck.

                                i can't imagine living with an enabler (sounds like that's what you've got on your hands). that would make this whole process ten times more challenging for me!

                                my son had a ball at my work, thank you for asking. he is four and a half, and he wore the cutest red soccer suit that makes his big blue eyes and dark dark lashes pop out at admiring onlookers. (ok, yes, i'm a bit head-over-heals in love.) people were agape at how gorgeous he is, and how he looks just like me; there must not be a father, they said. (might as well not be in my opinion sometimes.) suffice it to say that i think i had just as much fun as he did on friday.

                                and yes, i do work with very troubled middle schoolers. what am i thinking?!

                                good luck windy. let us know how it goes with your supply. i just got mine, and it's almost as big as a coke bottle. phew. i'm good for a couple of weeks here, i think...

                                xo ruby dee

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