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    Newbies Nest! for bac

    Hi Texie. :welcome:

    I do have my fingers crossed for you. I know the SE's seem scary, and I had a number of them. That aside, I have never regretted taking bac. It was the best decision I have ever made for my life.

    WCL, I am sorry to hear of all the rough patches you are encountering. It sounds from reading your posts, you are handling them well. And making the best decisions you can for yourself...for now. I think it's great you are planning to go AF on the 24th. I'm rooting for you.

    Evey, I don't believe I've ever congratulated you on your switch. I know you are experiencing some rough patches too. I have followed you and am thinking of you now.
    This Princess Saved Herself

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      The Switch

      here.i.am;1150680 wrote: Hello all -
      I have a question about mixing Baclofen. I recently got a script from Walgreen's but had already started on some from a different source, had been on this at 50mg/day for about 2 weeks. On Dr advice went up to 70mg/day using both sources. I'm wondering if what I now feel is an expected SE or could it be mixing the two. I feel lethargic, sleepy during the day, clumsier than usual, butterfingers....
      Otherwise, no cravings, and no drinking dreams, which always happened on my many previous dry-out attempts. Today is 30 day AF! I'm still a little afraid to be too optimistic but I continue to be inspired.
      Here,
      Something to ponder - if you havent drank in 30 days and have no cravings - That is the switch in my opinion! I did that at 60mg but went up to 80mg just to be sure. Dont feel that because it is such a low dose that you arent there yet. It happenned to me.
      Congrats!

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        The Switch at a Low Dose of 70/day?

        Road, could it be, really?? I do still think about al, and entertain a fantasy about having a glass of wine, or two, without having to down the whole bottle - and then some more. I need to get an attitude adjustment and move on with the new phase of my life as a non-drinker, but I admit that sometimes makes me sad.
        Happiness depends upon ourselves.
        Aristotle

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          If not, then very close

          here.i.am;1150770 wrote: Road, could it be, really?? I do still think about al, and entertain a fantasy about having a glass of wine, or two, without having to down the whole bottle - and then some more. I need to get an attitude adjustment and move on with the new phase of my life as a non-drinker, but I admit that sometimes makes me sad.
          As I stated, I was AF at 60mg, still had thoughts but was able to supress. It was so long ago that I dont remember exactly but definately had no desires to drink at 80mg. I guess I should add that I was being held accountable - I confessed to my wife that I was trying to get a handle on my drinking, and she had threatened to leave me before because of my drinking so I had maybe a little more at stake. But I do know that at 80mg, I suddenly felt an overwhelming desire to never drink again - which wasnt my original plan (I dont think anyof us want to give it up completely in the beginning) but I do think the "switch" changes that? I know others will chime in - this is just my opinion. I think you are very close - maybe 20mg more maybe the sweet spot for you! Keep us posted!
          :goodjob:

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            Thanks so much for sharing, it is very helpful for me to hear others experiences and to know I'm not alone in this fight. Today's the day to go up to 90 according to Dr L's protocol, but now I'm re-thinking and will go up to 80 as you suggested then see how I feel about drinking. I'm now splitting the dosages into 10mg at more frequent intervals throughout the day, so far it's helping with the SEs.
            Happiness depends upon ourselves.
            Aristotle

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              Hey Here!

              Good to hear that splitting you're doses is helping. I'd also be concerned about stopping too early - it may work, or it may not...

              Only you will be able to decide, and it won't be that hard to work out.

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                Hi Here,

                Dr. L called in my prescription on Thursday and I'm going to pick it up tomorrow and start with 5 mg. I'm thrilled to hear that you are doing so good so soon. I hope I do as well! Please keep in touch as I am worried about the nasty SE's that some on the boards describe. Do you mind sharing what your experience with that aspect has been so far? Dr. L. indicated that if you follow his protocol which seems to be pretty consersative the SE's should be minimal. Have you found that to be true?

                Thanks for sharing...

                Tex

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                  Texie;1151498 wrote: Dr. L. indicated that if you follow his protocol which seems to be pretty consersative the SE's should be minimal. Have you found that to be true?
                  Who knows? No one ever does it! :H:H:H

                  Hiya, Here! That's not that unheard of! Seethepony was pretty amazed to find his beer-swilling-self at something like 75mg/day. (not sure though, exactly.) Yay!

                  Nice to see you Road!

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                    By the time I talked to the dr I had already set sail on my own (bad) advice and tested going from 50 up to 100 at one point before realizing that it was way too fast; and went back down. But once he outlined his protocol I followed it pretty close and will go day by day on how I am feeling. The SEs I've had are not too bad, get so sleepy can't keep my eyes open at my sedentary computer job so lunch breaks are now nap breaks And I am a little foggy-headed and more clumsy than usual but those who know me wouldn't know the diff...
                    So has anyone out there that has hit their "switch" tested the waters by going out for a social coupla drinks? or is that just stupid...I think I know the answer and don't think I'm going to risk it, but would like to hear stories.
                    Texie, welcome and good luck; Ne, Road and Bleep, thanks for the encouragement - I got through a Friday late afternoon with none of the formerly compelling trips to the beer store so that's a good sign.
                    Happiness depends upon ourselves.
                    Aristotle

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                      here.i.am;1151527 wrote:
                      So has anyone out there that has hit their "switch" tested the waters by going out for a social coupla drinks? or is that just stupid...I think I know the answer and don't think I'm going to risk it, but would like to hear stories.
                      Not stupid at all. Certainly goes against conventional alcoholism treatments like AA but we are doing something different here. For me it was an amazing relief when I had a few drink nights post switch and realised I wasn't immediately getting sucked back in to my alcoholic days. Turned out that I was white knuckling needlessly.

                      As a lifestyle for long term sobriety to work, there are different feelings about drinking occasionally. I find that if I work at it I can can have fun getting drunk, particularly having reduced my dose. I don't think this is really the type of lesson my brain needs! At 40mg, I found that I didn't have to work at it any more so I am back to a higher dose to curb my desire. We are all forerunners of this treatment and still finding out by trial and error what works.

                      If you have a drink be sure to let us know. Good luck.
                      Started Baclofen 3/9/10 Hit my switch at 250mg on 21/11/10 Present maintenance dose of 50mg : started drinking after 1 year, upped dose to 80mg and stopped: Tapered to 30mg, started 6 months of drinking, upped dose to 240mg to stop 12/7/12

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                        Ne/Neva Eva;1151508 wrote: Hiya, Here! That's not that unheard of! Seethepony was pretty amazed to find his beer-swilling-self at something like 75mg/day. (not sure though, exactly.) Yay!
                        Ummmm, I'm not sure that's exactly true. Seethepony had a reduced craving on 80mg/day, which obviously helps to become abstinent, but bac also had an antabuse-like affect on him. So he took the decision the terrible hangovers just weren't the drinking. Either way, the end result is the same and that's what counts.

                        The unexamined life is not worth living

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                          Abstinence was never my goal Here. I regularly have a couple of drinks, and enjoy them. Now though, I can choose whether or not to continue, for the first time, and most of the time, I choose not to.

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                            Ah - I conveniently left the hangover out of my fantasy social drinking episode. Must not be at the switch if I've let this fantasy completely take over my thoughts at the moment. And who am I kidding? I'm not very social let alone a social drinker. My beast wants me to find the nearest pkg store stat, none of this messing around with a couple of drinks at a respectable restaurant or bar...
                            Happiness depends upon ourselves.
                            Aristotle

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                              Not there yet...

                              Bleep, you are where I would like to be some day. Guess I've got a lot more work to do and am profoundly grateful to have found this forum, I learn every day here. :thanks:
                              Happiness depends upon ourselves.
                              Aristotle

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                                Murphyx;1151546 wrote: Ummmm, I'm not sure that's exactly true. Seethepony had a reduced craving on 80mg/day, which obviously helps to become abstinent, but bac also had an antabuse-like affect on him. So he took the decision the terrible hangovers just weren't the drinking. Either way, the end result is the same and that's what counts.
                                All,
                                I completely lost my craving at 120mg. I now stay between 60mg and 80mg and I also feel like absolute crap if I drink on it. So to drink and deal with those hangovers just is not worth losing the positive mental affect I get with the Baclofen. That alone deters me and keeps me sober.


                                LL:
                                The hardest arithmetic to master is that which enables us to count our blessings.

                                *Don't look where you fall, look why you slipped*

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