Using Baclofen prn

[coalfire]

Using Baclofen prn

Hiya Bleep. Yes thats exactly what I was looking for! Thats what I plan to experiment as- a baclofen pill popper. Thanks a million for that. Do you remember when all the rave music appeared to go with ecstasy? I wonder now will there be a new wave of Baclofen music?:H

[coalfire]

Using Baclofen prn

And I just spotted this by sunny on her success thread

." Only taking 20 mg of bac at bedtime every few days. don't even carry it with me any more unless I am staying overnight." Here is her thoughts on my question

"With respect using bac PRN I saw that thread. I am convinced that each of us responds differently to these drugs and to some extent must keep trying until we find what works best for us. I believe that I could, now that I have 14 months, use the baclofen PRN in low doses. I don't know if I could have said that with confidence 6 months ago. I drank for such a long time that I wanted to be abstinent for a long time before going down on the dose. I take it mostly now if I am having trouble falling asleep. I have no interest in alcohol use."

Ok so its not going to kill me. Whether it helps cure me is a different matter.....

[bleep]

Using Baclofen prn

If you look at a site called bluelight, there's all sorts of that type of info. What I posted above is basically a summary of all their "trip reports." Quite interesting to read though. You should see a couple of posts from me there, if I remember correctly.

Ah, here's a link... Google Custom Search

Bring on the baclofen tunes!

[Bruunhilde]

Using Baclofen prn

Congrats Coalfire,

I'm going to look again at the post in Holistic, I never did order it. Thanks.

[coalfire]

Using Baclofen prn

Thanks bleep. you are a wee angel. That bluelight is some site. There is some scary misinformation over there and I see MWO gets quite a kicking. Some mad little party animals too. I see one kid is snorting baclofen! :egad: Methinks I see the next generation of MWO over there. Anyway heres me worrying about popping the odd 10mg to stay off the booze. They would laugh me out of it. Go home granny! Thanks. I can relax now.

[coalfire]

Using Baclofen prn

Hi Brunnhilde. I always worry that Im going to be responsible for all these people wasting their money on lithium orotate every time I promote it but every now and again someone pops up on MWO who loves it. So people should be aware of it and then they can decide themselves whether to roll the dice. Its cheap and safe so its worth a shot. Good luck.

[Seethepony]

Using Baclofen prn

" I wonder now will there be a new wave of Baclofen music?"

I hope to fuck not!

[PbarE]

Using Baclofen prn

There has actually been a study done on humans involving its effectiveness in treating alcoholism: LITHIUM OROTATE STUDY

[coalfire]

Using Baclofen prn

Yeah pBarE. I remember reading that study. The results were interesting

Ten of the patients had no relapse for over three and up to 10 years, 13 patients remained without relapse for 1 to 3 years, and the remaining 12 had relapses between 6 to 12 months. Lithium orotate therapy was safe and the adverse side effects noted were minor,

So its not pie-in -the -sky but its no big guarantee of a cure either. Like I said its worth a shot.

[Greg]

Using Baclofen prn

Regarding the idea of taking baclofen occasionally on an as-needed basis, I'd say give it a try at least. Nobody really recommends it this way since this doesn't involve the usual "switch" that people talk about, but smallish doses could be safe. My own use of baclofen was daily for a long time but then became more occasional; I no longer currently feel a need for it. I recall that Dr. Ameisen used an extra dose for cravings and I'm sure he also bunched his daily dose up to be stronger towards evenings, when he felt he was in more danger of drinking.

I'd just say to anyone that you should try a very small baclofen dose, eg. 5 mg, first to see how you react to taking it occasionally without the usual titration. Some people report quite severe side effects at fairly low doses. I only used my 10 to 25 mg afternoon doses after becoming sure they didn't affect me badly. Don't drive while testing this out either! Fortunately bac has a short 3-5 hour half-life from memory so should wear off fairly fast if you take a dose you can't tolerate. I'd also suggest not doing this at the same time as drinking, as it may not work at all. It is probably not feasible for many people to try this, as they are still drinking and may need to stop first.

Lithium orotate is another one I'll have to check out, just out of interest if for no other reason. I have heard of it a few times but have never tried it...I think beatle is one here who knows a lot about supplements like this.

[coalfire]

Using Baclofen prn

Thanks for your thoughts. I too believe in inching my way into any drug. I took 2.5mg first-nothing. Then I tried 5mg-nothing. Then I tried 10mg and I thought that it did help to relax me a little. I need more time to distinguish between placebo and lasting effect. I should add that this was on different days. I will update when I have some definite thoughts. There is a thread on the holistic section that I have started called lithium orotate again much of which has been gleaned from beatles old posts. It might interest you.

[Bruunhilde]

Using Baclofen prn

Yeah Greg, go check out Holistics for the LO threads. Some interesting stuff.

Coal & Pbar, that study sounds darn good, 2/3 success rate over AA or detox, right? The latter two have like a 90% failure rate in twelve mos?

:goodjob:

[coalfire]

Using Baclofen prn

It is good isnt it and yet there doesnt appear to be much of a follow up. Wouldnt you think someone would have looked at it and went whoa hold on there a second-What is this? I would have liked to have known a little bit about these alkies who quietly got sober on LO. Were they moody feckers like me?What pattern of drinking did they have etc etc but no...not a dickie bird. You would swear us alkies were getting cured left right and center and could afford to ignore something like that.

[Bruunhilde]

Using Baclofen prn

Well like baclofen it's not patent-able so ...

No drug companies can make big bucks off of something generic, I think this drug and many like it are the reason John McCain and other are trying to limit /outlaw our ability to obtain supplements. Of course, supplements would just go black market but get more $$$$$ which wouldn't help anyone except the risk taking suppliers and cost buyers. But we do that already, eh, isn't ordering bac off the internet humhum?

I know they've outlawed kava kava in some states, or so I read, and in some countries. Next it will be valarian, then vitamin B shots, then everything else big pharma wants to make more money on.

Love, prayer and best karma to the people in Japan, I see and hear your pain.
:hug: