Side effects of AA

[TracyA]

Side effects of AA

Sheri;1077493 wrote: Could things be done better in AA? Absolutely, but I don't believe that AA kills people..

We're going to have to agree to disagree on that one..

AA clearly doesn?t work for everyone but neither does medication or MWO or SMART . . .

Well, if such a thread existed critiquing SMART, there would not be all this drama or criticism of the thread because it does not hold "golden calf" status. I think such a post would be ignored.

Also, SMART simply is not harmful. AA is harmful to a lot of people. The incredible energy exerted on this thread in its defense is proof in itself of what a powerhouse it is, IMO.

I'm glad you found your way out, you sobriety tart.

[KundaliniGirl]

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Sorry, X Post, John - your response goes before mine I think.

KundaliniGirl;1077497 wrote: You know, I really think that if someone had taught me the negative health aspects of drinking, especially how it is linked to cancer, it could have made a difference for me. I'm very health conscious and never stopped to think about alcohol on a deep level as it pertains to a healthy body (until now). Teaching me this in high school or college would have been much more beneficial than a lot of what I was taught! I don't know, maybe they're just now understanding the link to cancer.

[Longshot]

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Sheri;1077493 wrote: but I don't believe that AA kills people.

I believe that some of the advice I received in AA was profoundly damaging.


AA clearly doesn?t work for everyone but neither does medication or MWO or SMART or therapy or whatever else is out there for us to try. I personally used a multi-faceted approach for myself and believe that?s what gave me the best chance to succeed thus far.

Sheri

However AA tend to present themselves as the only game in town. Rarely are alternatives offered or suggested.

[JohnR]

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KundaliniGirl;1077501 wrote: Sorry, X Post, John - your response goes before mine I think.

I was so upset about that. Oh well, too slow.

[TracyA]

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JohnR;1077498 wrote: And...scene!

Could the next scene be the sunrise following the battle, where all the characters come together and celebrate having saved the world? lease:

[coalfire]

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" you sobriety tart" Um thats me.... Thats my signature.

[stirly-girly]

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Longshot;1077319 wrote:
Or hey lets have another one.

Do you really want to spend your evening hanging around with some sick fuck who rapes children
Reprisals fear after sex attack on five-year-old - Courts, National News - Herald.ie

Thats, talllaght man. My neck of the woods. You really want to spend your days at AA meetings with a guy who got a suspended sentence for molesting a 5 year old child?

I find this post totally inappropriate. Just because one man was an alcoholic and a pedophile does not mean that every man who attends AA is. Longshot, you are completely out of line here. I know several men who are and have been members of AA and sober for many, many years. And they are fine, loving family men and an example to others since finding sobriety. They have shown that this disease can be beaten and that an alcoholic can get and stay sober and go on to live a healthy and productive life. You have no right to throw them all in the same pot and claim that they are all perverts just because of one man.
Sobriety can be achieved by many ways. I've been reading the posts on this thread and I am appalled by the intolerance of some posters towards the beliefs and methods of others and I am appalled by the sarcasm and meanness that I see in so many posts. If it's Baclofen or Topamax or whatever substance that works for some, then good for them. If AA works for some, then why bash it? If you don't believe in it, don't go to the meetings. If you've managed sobriety by means of your own self-will and the support of people on forums such as MWO, then who has the right to tell you your way is wrong? Besides appalling, I find it very sad that the MWO forum has gotten to this stage. Members lashing out at others because they are using a different method to find or cling to their sobriety. This is supposed to be a support forum and at the moment, it is very far from that.

[TracyA]

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Sheri;1077509 wrote: If you meant that to be funny, I'm not amused.

Can you please explain why you felt that was necessary to say in response to my post?

My mistake. I confused you with someone who has "sobriety tart" in her sig line, someone else who uses a pastiche of methods in her sobriety journey. I think maybe it's CF. Certainly no offense was intended.

[JohnR]

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TracyA;1077515 wrote: Could the next scene be the sunrise following the battle, where all the characters come together and celebrate having saved the world? lease:

Done! Seriously, I would love that :heartsnflowers:

[TracyA]

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stirly-girly;1077519 wrote: Besides appalling, I find it very sad that the MWO forum has gotten to this stage. Members lashing out at others because they are using a different method to find or cling to their sobriety.

Where has any member here lashed out at any other member here because of their choice of method? You people keep coming in and posting this stuff. I keep asking: show me proof. So far, not one person has. So, DarkOrchid, please show me where any member of any method was *attacked* because they chose that method. I think what you will find is a lot of criticism of AA, the institution. An awful lot of people take that criticism personally, but that is their deal. If you don't like the thread, why on Earth read it? I cannot imagine a scenario where I would drop in on an AA thread and insist that the thread should not exist.

[coalfire]

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JohnR
Member

And...scene!

:H You're funny!

[Longshot]

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stirly-girly;1077519 wrote: I find this post totally inappropriate. Just because one man was an alcoholic and a pedophile does not mean that every man who attends AA is.


Did I say anything of the sort? Read my posts, and re read there. Where? Exactly Where? Do I suggest that every AA male member is a paedophile?

Longshot, you are completely out of line here.

But I never suggested anything like what you are accusing me of.


I know several men who are and have been members of AA and sober for many, many years. And they are fine, loving family men and an example to others since finding sobriety. They have shown that this disease can be beaten and that an alcoholic can get and stay sober and go on to live a healthy and productive life. You have no right to throw them all in the same pot and claim that they are all perverts just because of one man.

But I didn't say anything of the sort.


Sobriety can be achieved by many ways. I've been reading the posts on this thread and I am appalled by the intolerance of some posters towards the beliefs and methods of others and I am appalled by the sarcasm and meanness that I see in so many posts. If it's Baclofen or Topamax or whatever substance that works for some, then good for them. If AA works for some, then why bash it? If you don't believe in it, don't go to the meetings. If you've managed sobriety by means of your own self-will and the support of people on forums such as MWO, then who has the right to tell you your way is wrong? Besides appalling, I find it very sad that the MWO forum has gotten to this stage. Members lashing out at others because they are using a different method to find or cling to their sobriety. This is supposed to be a support forum and at the moment, it is very far from that. [/COLOR]

Well my issue with this gentleman is that the case was heard in my local court house, and he would have attended AA meetings in my local.

The idea that I think all AA members are paedophiles, is incredibly bizarre and as tasteless as your font colour choice.

[Cinders]

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is incredibly bizarre and as tasteless as your font colour choice.

Longshot, that post was as tasteless as my spelling post.

A personal attack.

Cindi

[coalfire]

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Come on longshot. Lets stay off the personal stuff and talk about the issues. I enjoy reading your posts when you talk about the issues. You interest me.

[coalfire]

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Sheri. She got you mixed up with me. She said that. My signature came about in a conversation with Doggygirl. She suggested it. It was funny . Give me a mo and I will link you to the thread.