Side effects of AA

[TracyA]

Side effects of AA

Cinders;1077540 wrote: Longshot, that post was as tasteless as my spelling post.

A personal attack.

Huh?? What personal attack? Proof please (she says for the tenth time today). Please show an attack. Provide a quote, something. I doubt you will - none of your ilk has bothered to do that, despite repeated requests.

Cinders, this thread has topic. Even if you can't be bothered to read through the posts, could you at least try to limit your posts to the topic at hand, and not to critiquing posters who actually are trying to stick to the topic at hand?

[TracyA]

Side effects of AA

Sheri;1077547 wrote: I did, and in return was called a sobriety tart.

And I think that I've already told you that I mistook you for CF, who has that on her sig line. Get over it already. Sheri, if your only object here is to disrupt this thread, do you know what that makes you? Have you *nothing* better to do?

[coalfire]

Side effects of AA

Here sheri https://www.mywayout.org/community/f9...red-48609.html

It was one night we were having a bit of a laugh.

[Cinders]

Side effects of AA

Sheri is sober.

You? Yeah. I know. Me, too.

At the end of the day, I think I will listen to the sober one.

Cindi

[TracyA]

Side effects of AA

Cinders, this thread has topic. Could you, at the very least, try to limit your posts to the topic at hand?

[Cinders]

Side effects of AA

Cinders;1077540 wrote: Longshot, that post was as tasteless as my spelling post.

A personal attack.

Cindi

Not a personal attack?

Oh, and side effects of AA?

Some people get sober.

Some don't.

Cindi

[Cinders]

Side effects of AA

TracyA;1077562 wrote: Cinders, this thread has topic. Could you, at the very least, try to limit your posts to the topic at hand?

Yes. You?

[Longshot]

Side effects of AA

Cinders;1077540 wrote: Longshot, that post was as tasteless as my spelling post.

A personal attack.

Cindi
No tasteless was stirly-girly's suggestion that I thought

Just because one man was an alcoholic and a pedophile does not mean that every man who attends AA is.

A misconception no one else has thought to correct.

[TracyA]

Side effects of AA

Here's a suggestion: There is a word for people who post for the sole purpose of disrupting threads. We've had them popping in all morning. Maybe it would be better if we could ignore those posts and continue the discussion.

Longshot, the Penn and Teller video (I rewatched it, all three parts) have a lot of discussion about "not a disease," which I think I agree with, but not entirely. I like the empowerment evident in "choice." Do you think it all is matter of choice? Was it always so? Was there something organic wrong from the get-go, as Ameisen claims?

[Longshot]

Side effects of AA

TracyA;1077574 wrote: Here's a suggestion: There is a word for people who post for the sole purpose of disrupting threads. We've had them popping in all morning. Maybe it would be better if we could ignore those posts and continue the discussion.

Longshot, the Penn and Teller video (I rewatched it, all three parts) have a lot of discussion about "not a disease," which I think I agree with, but not entirely. I like the empowerment evident in "choice." Do you think it all is matter of choice? Was it always so? Was there something organic wrong from the get-go, as Ameisen claims?

I think for me it was a choice at the start. I always had a unhealthy attitude to alcohol, but then started using it as a short cut to relax and unwind. The choice became a compulsion many years ago, and the compulsion became a addiction.

I'm starting to come to terms with the idea that it could be a choice once again at some future date. A choice that I will regard much more respectfully than when I was a teenager or young man.

That choice is a while away.

[Cinders]

Side effects of AA

Cinders;1076555 wrote: What the eff is the point of this thread?

Making sure those who have found their way out with AA know they are delusional?

Or those who can't know they are okay?

Give me a break. I hate this kind of post.

Nanny Nanny Boo Boo.

Give me a break.

Cindi

Find a ride on another pony, K?

I still stand by the post I posted last night.

I am sorry about the pony reference, I did not realize there was a member here called "SeethePony."

But, I still dislike this kind of post. It is easy to tear down that which exists. It is much harder to create something new and that works.

Sheesh.

Okay. Last post by me on this thread.

Water off a duck's back. (Zenny)

Oh, and I think Stirly's font is very nice.

Cindi

[TracyA]

Side effects of AA

Longshot;1077584 wrote: I think for me it was a choice at the start. I always had a unhealthy attitude to alcohol, but then started using it as a short cut to relax and unwind.
My first experiences with alcohol were substance abuse, no doubt about it. But I did not drinking like a drunk until close to 15 years later.

I'm starting to come to terms with the idea that it could be a choice once again at some future date. A choice that I will regard much more respectfully than when I was a teenager or young man.

That's what I love about the whole idea of "indifference." The thought of being a decade down the road and running over here and posting, "Such and such happened, and I really wanted to drink today!" . . . surely there is something better out there then that.

But Amesien seems to believe that anxiety was the culprit all along. I can definitely see that as having had a tremendous impact on my life. So, that would indicate that there was something organically wrong all along.

But I don't think I buy "disease" . . .

[shirazgirl]

Side effects of AA

My final note,,,,,,Tracy - I left you the personal love note Roberta left for all of us quite some time ago. You have a husband? He must have high tolerance for ignorance. Yes, go to bed. Sleep it off (whatever it is).

It is on the need help asap. That would be a good place for you to go.

[TracyA]

Side effects of AA

And another thing that bothers me is the concept of "powerlessness." I can kind of see how that might have worked for white men who were on the top of the food chain, a doctor and a wall street broker. I don't think it's such hot idea for people who never had power and never imagined they would - women, minorities, etc. We have a large percentage of Hispanics and Native Americans here, but that population is not represented in AA meetings here. I wonder if the whole concept of "powerlessness" might not be one of the reasons.

[Guitarista]

Side effects of AA

I trust part's of this thread aren't a side effect of baclofen?

Sorry folk's, couldn't resist. I'm in trouble again!

Best wishes everyone on your respective journey's. Keep it going.