Counterfeit Prescription Drugs

[bkyogagurl]

Counterfeit Prescription Drugs

After watching... I do believe there are conterfeits but sometimes I do believe the pharmaceutical companies are very about themselves too. I do believe they are in fact very greedy. Its a hard situation. I get very frustrated because they talk about how it takes the conterfeiter so little to make a pill and they sell it for so much. Isn't that what the pharmaceutical company does too?

How much does it really cost them to make a pill? The pharmaceutical companies in the US make a ton of money especially on the drugs they patent that you can't get a generic on. So I don't know if I really trust them either. I am fortunate enough to get my Topa from a local US pharmacy and don't have to worry about ordering online. It just really frustrates me for the people who want to get help and have no alternative.

[JohnR]

Counterfeit Prescription Drugs

It is frustrating and trial and error sometimes when you don't have the peace of mind of going to your local drive-thru pharmacy for your meds. If you?ve have a good experience with a particular overseas pharmacy (regardless of location) stick with that. The same names come up in this forum all the time and those do seem safe but when you start venturing into unfamiliar territories either to save money or because they promise faster shipping is where you are taking your chances. Several years ago when I ordered Ambien from one such site, what arrived seemed questionable and when I Googled the return address, it was a bar in West Hollywood, CA. A bar.

Steer clear of websites with domain name structures like buy-cheap-meds-online-now.com or Genericpharmacy.us and sites obviously created from templates.

[ignominious]

Counterfeit Prescription Drugs

That's the point really, we can take responsibility about where we buy from. The more open and legal it is then its safer for us. We can choose to buy our drugs from another online pharmacy if we hear a bad report about our present one.

When was the last time you bought out of date fish from your fishmonger? Never............right? Because if you did you wouldn't go back there and he would go out of business. Oh yeah I forgot, he is out of business because the supermarts took over his business.

OK then.............when was the last time you bought a stale loaf of bread from your local baker. Oh .................scrap that. They've also been replaced by the supermarts.

OK............when was the last time you bought an old egg from the local grocer. My bad, supermart again, where the average egg is about 3 weeks old but hasn't gone off because its been refrigerated and its full of antibiotics.

Point is, apart from wanting to rant, that we have allowed big business to take over providing for our lives because they promised a better deal. But we haven't got a better deal. The fish is not so fresh and mostly I don't know if its farmed of wild. The bread is almost one size fits all. And the eggs, well they don't really have any flavor.

Now we might need another thread.

[bleep]

Counterfeit Prescription Drugs

Brilliant post Ig.

[JohnR]

Counterfeit Prescription Drugs

I see what you're saying but an old egg, stale bread and out-of-date fish cannot be compared to fake pills manufactured in someone's basement with toxic ingredients. It is especially concerning when people are titrating up to a certain dosage attempting to reach a “switch” and then receive the next shipment which may not be baclofen at all.

Anyway, I’ve made my point, I think you get it.

[ignominious]

Counterfeit Prescription Drugs

The point you are making is very clear, "caveat emptor", "buyer beware". I wholeheartedly agree with that notion and if I haven't said it before I thank you for bringing our attention to it. Afraid to say, John but I think you are missing the point I was making. I could have used any number of different scenarios to illustrate it.

For instance giving too much power to banks to run our economies (bankers get rich, everyone else has their wealth devalued) or giving to much power to written laws over natural justice (the rich hire the best lawyers and appear to get away with murder and the rest of us have to face rough justice at best).

The point I was trying to make is that concentration of power can and does lead to abuse of that power. When you draw attention to this video you go some way to supporting the notion that the rich and powerful know better than us. I disagree with that. And for balance sake I have become the antagonist.

[JohnR]

Counterfeit Prescription Drugs

Ok, I think we are clear and can agree to disagree. I will always trust a corporate pharmaceutical lab over a homemade lab, wealth and power being the most minor of potential issues.

[TracyA]

Counterfeit Prescription Drugs

I don't know that an open market would make a difference. Democratic republic + capitalism = Walmart.

I'd be more likely to trust a US pharmacy too, but one US brand of baclofen produced nasty SEs for me and Loop. I posted a while back that there doesn't seem to be a really safe way to do this. Still, I'm more comfortable with corporate pharms than buying from India (which is probably corporate anywhere and today I received another med from there). I'd be happy to buy a hot dog from a street corner stand anywhere in the US, but you couldn't pay me to eat one from a vendor in India.

It's good to know though, that the counterfeit stuff is out there. If someone has a nasty reaction or something that feels like withdrawal, they then know that it could be a possibility that they got a "bad batch."

[Bruunhilde]

Counterfeit Prescription Drugs

I would add that big pharma screws up and pretends not to, as in the case of Armour Thyroid, where they switched binding/filler agents and now half the people on it are back to being sick as they were without it. Cellulose, bah!

Also, I want to add that in the US, Farmers Markets are our tools for taking it back from corporate America. Talk about toxicity in pills, have you read about the toxicity in root vegetables here?

I would imagine that some people drink to escape the toxic feeling they get from eating, pilling, drinking, breathing and bathing in Corporate America. The flourine/arsinic/chlorine etc in the water, for starters. No enders, I'm signing off my friends.

Good night and sweet dreams.

[Murphyx]

Counterfeit Prescription Drugs

TracyA;1080406 wrote: I'd be happy to buy a hot dog from a street corner stand anywhere in the US, but you couldn't pay me to eat one from a vendor in India.

It would be a bun full of lips and arseholes wherever it came from. Bon appetit!

[bkyogagurl]

Counterfeit Prescription Drugs

Tracy I really agree with you... sometimes I wonder where corporate really stops. I saw your post on monadafinil (I'm on Topa and its helps extremely well with SE's) and I had tried it on a 14 day pass from the company here in the US. I went to have my prescript filled for it. Insurance said no go on covering it.

To pay cash.... $700................$700....... for 30 pills ....23 bucks a pill and that's not even a narcotic....sounds like a drug deal to me.... they have a patent on it so no generic. My pharmacy told me that if I paid cash they could knock it down to $650. Blah haa haa haa haa.
I would really like to know how much it really costs them to make this pill. I ordered some from River Pham and am half afraid to take them especially after watching this. If they only knew who they could be helping but wait a minute they don't give a shit about helping people just like the people who conterfeit don't. So tit for tat. Right.

Even the video said that alot of the core ingredients for US drugs are brought in from overseas... oh I could on and on I am going to stop now. I am just getting more frustrated. I think it is completely crazy that you can not buy certain "drugs" more easily or at least have the resources available to attain them safely thru doctors who actually care.

[TracyA]

Counterfeit Prescription Drugs

bkyogagurl;1080629 wrote: I ordered some from River Pham and am half afraid to take them especially after watching this. If they only knew who they could be helping but wait a minute they don't give a shit about helping people just like the people who conterfeit don't.

Yes, I agreed with everything you said! I had forgotten, until someone one else mentioned it, that RJ had recommended it for topa.

You are paying quite a lot though. What I am taking through River Pharm cost about $2.50 for each 100 mg pill. It did originate in India.

There's just no perfectly safe way to this. It's like that song, "Clowns to the left of me (big pharma), jokers to the right (counterfeiters). One of my husband's favorite lines is: "Yous pay your money and yous takes your chances." I think that's the best we can do.

It would be nice if it all could bust wide open and people had other choices. Wouldn't it be cool if you could buy meds from Vitamin Cottage or something? But, I don't see that ever happening. I hate that. But I get some solace from knowing that when I get something from India, I'm flashing a middle finger to big pharma.