Baclofen bollocks?! WTF!!!

[bleep]

Baclofen bollocks?! WTF!!!

Charlie, I get mine on prescription, Up to now that has meant the same brand from day 1. Due to recent supply difficulties, I have turned into somewhat of a baclofen whore, and now have about 4 different brands in my drawer. Sadly, not a lot of each!

[Longshot]

Baclofen bollocks?! WTF!!!

Charlieboy;1088330 wrote: he works in the ambulance service and has done medical work for the army and is well connected. I have made it clear that I can not possibly know whether he was exaggerating or not and has not provided ANY evidence to substantiate his claims. He could be bullshittinng to get a friend of BAC cos HE doesnt agree with it. Of course, if you put the word out, peopel who know nothing of Almeisen and high dose Baclofen are gonna get their knickers in a twist. I said I am SORRY i posted it. But as I also said, if you can't post it here, where can u post it? - and Long, as you can gather from everyones replies, there really is nothing to worry about is there. GP's are prescribing it, University of Pennyslvaia are behind it, Almeisen is a promonent doc who is right behind it, loads of people are taking high doses and are doing great etc etc etc etc etc etc. I panicked and I posted something on here and was quiclly calmed down by the responses for which I am very grateful. Long - I am sure you can calm down now too. Apologies again for causing you any distress but just start ignoring my post and listen to all the voices of reason who have replied to it.

BEatle- I am taking Lioresal ordered from United Pharmacies UK. As I have said, I suspect it may not be totally legit and once I am thorugh all this shit, will be looking into changing my supply chain as I just wanna make sure I am taking a grade A legit BAC source from here on in

Hopefully we can just get confirmation on what the f*Ck is going on in my head soon so that everyone can rest easy its not BAC related. Lets not all forget I did ramp up my dosage and went on a bender and would have been prone to all sorts of illnesses and infections in my state so I can confirm that if you are titrating normally and not doing stupid shit like that, then you have absolutely nothing to worry about

Thanks
The perhaps look before you f**king post. Army Paramedic "Well connected" Are YOU A FUCKING MORON? The first thing a hospital trained pharmacist I know did was go on pubmed. YOU CAN ACCESS PubMed. I can access PubMed. Jesus. You freaked people out over nothing.



You came out with a screaming line of dangerous side effects and could have freaked out any new comer to the forum. In fact I sent someone to this forum round about the time this thread got started. Jesus what he must have made of this fucking nonsense.

This thread is one of a long line of car crash posts on this forum, and why I rarely post any more.

But for the record. A Homopath isn't a doctor. Or as you described them a magic doctor. Then yes they are a a "magic doctor" In that I would rather trust a Shaman or a Witch Doctor before I'd trust a homopath.

The only way I trusted Baclofen is because I came through it at the time I was reading Bad Science a respected author and doctor who's work got Gillian Mc Keith to drop the title of "Doctor" on all her health supplements.

A Chiropractor can't read a MRI. Any more than a Dentist can. Less so.

Talking about a "Grade A source of Baclofen" makes it sound like you're scoring coke. I have lioresal. You're not a chemist none of us are.

IT'S A GENERIC DRUG BRAND. YOU'RE SCREAMING FOR NUROFEN WHEN OFFERED IBUPROFEN.

Lets look at your original post

Ok, so have just come off the phone with a friend in recovery who is also in the medical profession. When I mentioend Bac to him a few weeks ago, he sounded unimpressed. He has since gone off and spoken to numerous doctors, anaethesitists, pharmacists etc and the general consensus is that this stuff must be AVOIDED by all means. Its unlicensed and seriously dangerous, only causes major health problems.

Thats FUCKING SERIOUS Man. Don't fuck about. That'll scare people. It scared me.

The fact that you repeated this scare story without any consideration to people on high doses is fucking out of order.

Cop On.



And before anyone jumps down my throat.

No this is not out of order. Charlie's thread was out of order.

[TracyA]

Baclofen bollocks?! WTF!!!

As I've said before, and no doubt will again, the purpose of this forum is not to make bac look appealing to newcomers. I certainly do not (and I dare say that most of us do not) post here for the purpose of promoting baclofen. I find great value in reading posts from honest people writing honestly about their experience. There is more value in that than anything that has ever been written on MYO, IMO.

Every post on this board does not have to be a commercial for baclofen! It's okay to be simply honest. IMO, Longshot, you are waaaaaaaay off base.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Baclofen bollocks?! WTF!!!

hmmmm.

Longshot, dude. I was assuming you were taking a break so you could relax and reflect... Apparently not.

Can you start a brawl somewhere else about something meaningful? Or perhaps something less mean?

hmmmm.

I too have had the experience you relate Charlie and it all kinds of fucked me up. I got so nervous about my bac brand that I insisted on one and only one and went to the same drug store each time, because I was that nervous. Which is understandable since there is so much conjecture and hypotheses around MWO and in my own head. I just had to be safe so I didn't end up spending months sleepless, still drinking, at my wits end...
just sayin

[Longshot]

Baclofen bollocks?! WTF!!!

TracyA;1088795 wrote: As I've said before, and no doubt will again, the purpose of this forum is not to make bac look appealing to newcomers.

No actually a important part of this forum is to do exactly that. But considering I started taking baclofen (not bac) because of this forum and the state that it was in 6 months ago.

Perhaps TracyA you could explain to me what the purpose of this forum is.

I certainly do not (and I dare say that most of us do not) post here for the purpose of promoting baclofen. I find great value in reading posts from honest people writing honestly about their experience. There is more value in that than anything that has ever been written on MYO, IMO.

This is someone reposting hysterical nonsense about Baclofen, and claiming it comes from medical professions.


Every post on this board does not have to be a commercial for baclofen! It's okay to be simply honest. IMO, Longshot, you are waaaaaaaay off base.

Oh go to hell. Between this and Otter's rant about AA, this forum is badly in need of a sheriff.

This thread was nothing more than a commercial for one poster's narcissism.

That and the thread about OA being on the forum, which reads like a groups of Cargo Cultists

[Longshot]

Baclofen bollocks?! WTF!!!

Ne/Neva Eva;1088805 wrote: hmmmm.

Longshot, dude. I was assuming you were taking a break so you could relax and reflect... Apparently not.

I did actually and also because this forum started to be unhelpful.

Can you start a brawl somewhere else about something meaningful? Or perhaps something less mean?

A glib play on words.

And what's more meaningful to me than sobriety?


hmmmm.

I too have had the experience you relate Charlie and it all kinds of fucked me up. I got so nervous about my bac brand that I insisted on one and only one and went to the same drug store each time, because I was that nervous. Which is understandable since there is so much conjecture and hypotheses around MWO and in my own head. I just had to be safe so I didn't end up spending months sleepless, still drinking, at my wits end...
just sayin

It's not understandable It's paranoia. Your drugstore doesn't make the drugs. Anymore than your pub brews the beer.

If you did any research into how drugs are made you'd see that as hysteria Charlie started a thread with a list of health care professionals who claimed balcofen wasn't helpful it was indeed dangerous.

[Cinders]

Baclofen bollocks?! WTF!!!

Longshot,

I read Charlieboy's post as a question and concern.

Nothing else.

Please stop attacking him/her.

Thank you.
Cindi

[Longshot]

Baclofen bollocks?! WTF!!!

Cinders;1088828 wrote: Longshot,

I read Charlieboy's post as a question and concern.

Nothing else.

Please stop attacking him/her.

Thank you.
Cindi

This was a concern with

the OP wrote: He has since gone off and spoken to numerous doctors, anaethesitists, pharmacists etc and the general consensus is that this stuff must be AVOIDED by all means. Its unlicensed and seriously dangerous, only causes major health problems.

This forum isn't just wandering towards farce, it's running over the cliff.

How about a degree of personal responsibility.

[Cinders]

Baclofen bollocks?! WTF!!!

And angry, vituperous posts really help.

Glad you are here,
Cindi

[TracyA]

Baclofen bollocks?! WTF!!!

Longshot;1088811 wrote: No actually a important part of this forum is to do exactly that. But considering I started taking baclofen (not bac) because of this forum and the state that it was in 6 months ago.
NO - there is no "important work" done by this forum, aside from the mutual support it provides. This is not a marketing agency for BAC. Nothing about BAC has anything to do with MWO.

Perhaps TracyA you could explain to me what the purpose of this forum is.

It's about people who are using meds SUPPORTING each other. This is not an easy trail to blaze - the SE's can suck - the protocol is unproven - the long-term results are unproven, so support is important. You came out with all guns blazing as if the OP did something wrong. He did not. The only one wrong here is YOU.

Man! Look at what you wrote: "hysterical nonsense," "cargo cultists" and incredibly arrogant, really stupid, judgmental talk about the "narcissism" of someone who was merely asking for help and support (ya know - the purpose of this forum). Add in accusations of paranoia - where do you get off talking to people that way?

You come across as crazy evangelical. Hmmm. Something to ponder. If you are deeming yourself as sheriff of MWO, one determined to stamp out any talk of anything negative to do with BAC, I think you're going to find that the grand majority of us much prefer honest exchange.

I also think you will find that being a self-proclaimed "sheriff" here will make you unhappy. If you, personally (this is all about your personal preferences) find that this forum is "unhelpful" to you, please don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Just sayin'

[Longshot]

Baclofen bollocks?! WTF!!!

Cinders;1088832 wrote: And angry, vituperous posts really help.

Glad you are here,
Cindi

I'm not here. I'm explaining these kind of thread is why I'm not.

[Longshot]

Baclofen bollocks?! WTF!!!

TracyA;1088836 wrote: NO - there is no "important work" done by this forum, aside from the mutual support it provides. This is not a marketing agency for BAC. Nothing about BAC has anything to do with MWO.




It's about people who are using meds SUPPORTING each other. This is not an easy trail to blaze - the SE's can suck - the protocol is unproven - the long-term results are unproven, so support is important. You came out with all guns blazing as if the OP did something wrong. He did not. The only one wrong here is YOU.

Considering how you started on this forum I'd really stop right here.

This isn't about SE etc....This is about Charlie making a load of claims about Baclofen and the dangerous of Baclofen and then not supporting it. Nothing to do with SE.

Man! Look at what you wrote: "hysterical nonsense," "cargo cultists" and incredibly arrogant, really stupid, judgmental talk about the "narcissism" of someone who was merely asking for help and support (ya know - the purpose of this forum). Add in accusations of paranoia - where do you get off talking to people that way?

Okay Tracy Do you remember your alter ego, and how bad you got?

You come across as crazy evangelical. Hmmm. Something to ponder. If you are deeming yourself as sheriff of MWO, one determined to stamp out any talk of anything negative to do with BAC, I think you're going to find that the grand majority of us much prefer honest exchange.

I'm not a self proclaimed sheriff. Infact my issue is with someone making a wild list of dangerous issues with Baclofen and informing us that this list was supported with a medical professionals.


I also think you will find that being a self-proclaimed "sheriff" here will make you unhappy.

I never proclaimed myself sheriff.


If you, personally (this is all about your personal preferences) find that this forum is "unhelpful" to you, please don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Just sayin'

In case you missed the point (and I think you did, by a country mile)

I was angry with the OP making a list of dangerous side effects and proclaiming a list a medical professionals who supported this list.

Thats it.

[Charlieboy]

Baclofen bollocks?! WTF!!!

Jeez, just checked in to find ww3. This is giving me a headache...oh hang on...
Longshot - I cannot apologise again. Totally get your point about your newcomers though, shall I just delete the thread?

[Longshot]

Baclofen bollocks?! WTF!!!

Charlieboy;1088863 wrote: Jeez, just checked in to find ww3. This is giving me a headache...oh hang on...
Longshot - I cannot apologise again. Totally get your point about your newcomers though, shall I just delete the thread?

If you could. Then Yes.

[TracyA]

Baclofen bollocks?! WTF!!!

Man! Look at what you wrote: "hysterical nonsense," "cargo cultists" and incredibly arrogant, really stupid, judgmental talk about the "narcissism" of someone who was merely asking for help and support (ya know - the purpose of this forum). Add in accusations of paranoia - where do you get off talking to people that way?
Longshot;1088845 wrote: Okay Tracy Do you remember your alter ego, and how bad you got?

I guess my remembrance differs from yours, by a damn sight more than a mile.

But I do not see at all how the paragraph you were responding to had anything to do with your response regarding: "Where do you get off talking to people that way?"

And, Charlie, I do not think it's possible to delete a thread. You can delete your own posts within a thread. I could be wrong about that . . . if this post disappears, then I was.