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    Baclofen Observations...

    I haven't really posted in awhile. I have been taking Baclofen since late November, but haven't gotten above 100mg a day. I just ran out again. The delays at Goldpharma have absolutely ruined everything for me. I guess it takes 6 weeks or 8 weeks or 12 weeks, I don't even know anymore. Anyways, it has completely screwed everything up for me. I am waiting on two orders that I put in an eternity ago. Whatever.

    Here is what I have to say about Baclofen thus far. It stops benders and out of control drinking behavior in its tracks - BUT - at the levels I have been at, I drink like a total fish. No real side effects to complain about, but it has done nothing to reduce my intake, thus far, or at least recently.

    Something pretty amazing did happen in December, however. I was away from home for 19 DAYS visiting family over the holidays and didn't have ONE drink. Which was absolutely incredible for me. I actually can't believe that happened.

    When I got back home, however, where it is just me and my GF and I don't know anyone, I started drinking HEAVILY again. Some strange things have happened, however. I drink as much as I want and don't go on benders. That is a major difference.

    Once, not too long ago when my GF was out of town, I drank a fifth of whiskey in maybe 4 or 5 hours, went to bed and got up 5 hours later and worked (I work from home). Normally, if I did that, I might not draw a sober breath for days. I used to have bad binges.

    That doesn't happen anymore. I had one incident since I started taking BAC, and that occurred recently in Steamboat Springs. I was alone and ended up drinking for two days and nights on the weekend. I also used some drugs, which kind of exacerbated the drinking session.

    That was not a good situation, but I was sane enough and lucid enough and in enough control not to drive and to stay an extra night to sober up. Not pleasant, but not fully out of control, even though it normally would have headed there in a hurry. It has to be the BAC.

    Can someone offer me a solution to the delivery problem. This is absolutely ridiculous.

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    I just wanted to elaborate on the last post, because it might seem kind of confusing. I drink as much, and as frequently as ever. But the drinking never spirals into a loss of control, meaning I don't drink in the morning, I don't hardly ever drink during the day, and I don't have non-stop binges that last for days. That never happens anymore.

    I wake up, without much of a hangover, try to be semi-productive working (that needs significant improvement) and then I begin drinking very late in the day, usually never before 8 p.m. I then stay up late, get drunk, sleep some, and then wake up surprisingly coherent with maybe 6 hours of sleep most nights. It is very heavy drinking, but without the loss of control. My goal is no drinking at all. Alcohol is totally disgusting.

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      #3
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      FFA, great news, the bac is obviously working its magic and it's just a matter of increasing the dose to get more benefit from it. But you obviously know that already.

      RE the Goldpharma thing: What country are you in? Is there any particular reason why you have to use Goldpharma? If not, contact your credit card company, cancel the payments and tell Goldpharma you've cancelled the order because they're a useless bunch of dicks. Go to one of the pharmacies regularly used by members without problems: unitedpharmacies.com and 4rx.com are two that I have used without problems and there are others other people also recommend. You can order an expedited shipment from 4rx, my last one took about 4 days to arrive in the UK from India.

      Once you get your stock sorted you'll be able to knock this disgusting alcohol thing on the head.

      The unexamined life is not worth living

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        I am in America. I have not investigated this as much as I should. What I was told by Goldpharma is that due to new restrictions on air freight into America, shipments have been significantly delayed (which has been more than borne out by my experience).

        I am more than willing to order from somewhere else, but if it is not from N. America, I am not sure it would make a bit of difference. I am sure this has been discussed somewhere else on MWO? I guess I need to search. This issue has really screwed everything up for me.

        Baclofen is doing something for me. I don't have withdrawal symptoms. I don't CRAVE alcohol. I have to talk myself into drinking sometimes (out of habit I suppose). But I still drink a frightening amount. I know the higher doses are important, but I need a source I can rely on.

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          #5
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          I've read other people complaining about Goldpharma delays, but I wasn't aware it was affecting other pharmacies as well. I'm sure some Americans will be along, once they wake up, to share their experiences.

          The unexamined life is not worth living

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            #6
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            Hi Far, been a while. You are definitely making progress, I remember that stage as well. No hangovers, surprising lucidity on very little sleep after drinking quite a bit.

            Investigate the other options, find one that works, and try and order a sufficient quantity to see this through. Once you have all the necessary baclofen at your fingertips, then I would start going up in earnest. There are several members here from the same part of the world as you, so sourcing baclofen won't be an issue.

            Good luck.

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              #7
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              Far, Far, Away...;1089269 wrote: I haven't really posted in awhile. I have been taking Baclofen since late November, but haven't gotten above 100mg a day. I just ran out again. The delays at Goldpharma have absolutely ruined everything for me. I guess it takes 6 weeks or 8 weeks or 12 weeks, I don't even know anymore. Anyways, it has completely screwed everything up for me. I am waiting on two orders that I put in an eternity ago. Whatever.

              I live in California and am extremely familiar with Goldpharma.

              Change your brand!!!
              I'm assuming you're ordering lioresal, which comes from Spain (or maybe another one I'm not familiar with). Shipping on that one is bizarre. Order Aliud (from Germany, 25mg tabs), you'll have a package in less than 10 days (4/5 times).
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                #8
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                I have never had any problems with Goldpharma, in fact I once ordered from 4rx to compare deliveries. Goldpharma still arrived first.

                I have heard however that there have been delays to other countries, as a result of tightenened customs security.

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                  #9
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                  I think Ireland was the problem. I got my Baclofen through ok. Ally B got one shipment seized but then got others through. I don't know about Goldpharma and other countries though.
                  I am a sobriety tart. AA/Smart/RR philosophy, meds/diet/exercise/prayer,rabbbits feet/four leaf clovers/horseshoes. Yes please.I will have them all thank you very much.Bring them on


                  There is no way the bottle is going to be stronger than I am.

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                    #10
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                    I live in the US, I have placed two orders from goldpharma. One was for lioresal, which took 8 days, I ordered that in February. The last order was for Viordorin, which took about 10 days and arrived 3 weeks ago. I haven't heard anywhere on any delays or restrictions being imposed on shipments into America. Do you mind telling if you had any noticeable effects from not taking the bac. Did you feel unwell at all?

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                      #11
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                      Hi Far Away,

                      I am just going to pick up on something else you wrote which is similar to my experience, not baclofen..........I don't take it. I spent some time with my family over the last holiday period..i.e.my sisters, my sons, daughter in law, grandchildren and all their friends and family etc. None of them have a drinking problem and I never even thought of drinking at all over a 10 day period.

                      Totally amazing to me! And I wasn't even taking Campral then. Drinking just was not on my agenda at all. Came back home and wow was straight back into it.

                      Don't know if this resounds with you at all..........but the similarity was worth mentioning.

                      Missy x

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                        #12
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                        It sounds like you do better when you are with people MA and have a change of routine.
                        I am a sobriety tart. AA/Smart/RR philosophy, meds/diet/exercise/prayer,rabbbits feet/four leaf clovers/horseshoes. Yes please.I will have them all thank you very much.Bring them on


                        There is no way the bottle is going to be stronger than I am.

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                          #13
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                          Lo0p;1089350 wrote: I live in California and am extremely familiar with Goldpharma.

                          Change your brand!!!
                          I'm assuming you're ordering lioresal, which comes from Spain (or maybe another one I'm not familiar with). Shipping on that one is bizarre. Order Aliud (from Germany, 25mg tabs), you'll have a package in less than 10 days (4/5 times).
                          I'd have to agree here. I've ordered German Baclofen (Neurax Pharma.) from Goldpharma (which is based in Germany?) . High quality baclofen, and lightning quick shipping. Those Germans sure are efficient and meticulous. -tk
                          TerryK celebrates 6 years of sobriety and indifference to alcohol thanks to baclofen

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                            #14
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                            Loop and terryk, Thanks so much. That is exactly what I am going to do from now on to see if there is a difference. The other brands are a little more expensive but not too bad. I ordered last on Feb 21 and then again on March 3. Still no pills. Loop you have been a real inspiration, I have read many of your threads. Thank you.

                            As far as how I feel coming off the Baclofen, I think I am just fine. When I realized I was going to run out again, I just took 50mg one day and 50mg the next day and that was it. I never had bad side effects or anything either.

                            Abby, yes when I was able to stay sober for those 19 days it was pretty effortless. Maybe it is just being around family, I am not sure. I actually think it was more the Baclofen and not wanting to upset my family.

                            I know the Baclofen played a part, however, because the year prior I was home for awhile and would drink late at night and just hide it from everyone. I was drunk quite a few times actually. My GF even called me out in front of my parents, saying that my breath smelled like liquor in the morning (not good, played that one off).

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                              #15
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                              FFA,

                              I sympathise, right now I'm unemployed and very very bored, and my usual MO during long term unemployment would be to work part time three or four days, and stay drunk off my ass during this period.

                              Without even this structure I'm finding it so hard to maintain sobriety. But Balcofen makes it a hellavalot easier.

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