A meta-discussion is a discussion once-removed from the topic. It is a discussion about the discussion, if you will. So, the discussion in this thread is off-topic, not about baclofen. It is about the discussion of baclofen.
Baclofen is the only medication I?ve seen discussed on MWO that has been accompanied by decidedly hyper, curiously fervent, and sometimes dishonest behavior in order to promote that medication. What other meds have led to people pretending to be doctors? Have led to the creation of idols and enemies (even within the ranks: thinking of OA and his ?evil? designation of Levin here)? Have led to ?urgent? warnings about all the other meds? Have led to people posting here for the SOLE purpose of promoting that medication? Have led to a panacea mindset and crazy claims? Have led some people to feel suicidal? Have led others to feel abundantly powerful (not sobriety, the medication itself)? Have led to people OD?ing, withdrawing, and flat-lining in ER? Have resulted in people force-feeding other people that medication? Have led to people getting harmed and criminal and civil court cases ensuing? Not one. No other med ever discussed here has ever resulted in that kind of craziness.
I do not know what it is, but something here just is not right. I am starting this discussion in the hopes that people might want to explore what that something(s) is. How much of it (the discussion itself), if any, is a physical reaction to baclofen itself? How much of it, if any, is due to an outside influence (not the average Joe trying to get sober ? something else)? How much of it is due to desperation feeding ardency? What all else might it be due to? Is there anything we can do to curb the dark side of this?
So, to reiterate, this is NOT intended to be a discussion about baclofen itself. I am hoping that it will be a discussion about the discussion, about how and why the discussion presents as it does, and leads to the things that it leads to, if that makes any sense.
Baclofen is the only medication I?ve seen discussed on MWO that has been accompanied by decidedly hyper, curiously fervent, and sometimes dishonest behavior in order to promote that medication. What other meds have led to people pretending to be doctors? Have led to the creation of idols and enemies (even within the ranks: thinking of OA and his ?evil? designation of Levin here)? Have led to ?urgent? warnings about all the other meds? Have led to people posting here for the SOLE purpose of promoting that medication? Have led to a panacea mindset and crazy claims? Have led some people to feel suicidal? Have led others to feel abundantly powerful (not sobriety, the medication itself)? Have led to people OD?ing, withdrawing, and flat-lining in ER? Have resulted in people force-feeding other people that medication? Have led to people getting harmed and criminal and civil court cases ensuing? Not one. No other med ever discussed here has ever resulted in that kind of craziness.
I do not know what it is, but something here just is not right. I am starting this discussion in the hopes that people might want to explore what that something(s) is. How much of it (the discussion itself), if any, is a physical reaction to baclofen itself? How much of it, if any, is due to an outside influence (not the average Joe trying to get sober ? something else)? How much of it is due to desperation feeding ardency? What all else might it be due to? Is there anything we can do to curb the dark side of this?
So, to reiterate, this is NOT intended to be a discussion about baclofen itself. I am hoping that it will be a discussion about the discussion, about how and why the discussion presents as it does, and leads to the things that it leads to, if that makes any sense.
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