Sprat's baclofun journey

[Lo0p]

Sprat's baclofun journey

So you'll be on it for 27 days when you might run out. My advice: Titrate down now. lease:

If you have to rely on shipments for your baclofen a good rule of thumb to follow is to have a backup of several weeks and order as though you don't have it.

If it does come early or on time please still follow this general rule at least until you become VERY familiar with your shipment times from India to wherever you're at.

PS: I really am a nice guy (in general :H)

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Sprat's baclofun journey

:H
Dear Sprat,
Meet Lo0p. He's fun and funny. He's apparently on a tear.

I won't speak for him, but I think his um, suggestion, that you plan ahead might be a good one. And that you go down a bit until you have a bac-up.

You're in Japan, right? Do you know Edostan by any chance? I miss him. I'm sure you'll know him, Japan being so small and everything, right? and :H

Anyway, Edo was able to get a script from a doc and have it filled enviously inexpensively because of your wonderful national healthcare system. I wonder if you can't do the same?

[Lo0p]

Sprat's baclofun journey

Others will tell you (I'm sure) that I am the last person to be a worry wart about baclofen stuff. We've had a couple people come off from high doses after 14 days and been fine (me being one of them), so you'd probably be fine going to zero right now. 4 weeks is unfamiliar territory for me. You could be absolutely fine, but I think I'm the only person that could/should hazard a guess around here and mine is: I don't know.

[Lo0p]

Sprat's baclofun journey

Oh and yes...Hi, I'm Lo0p :nutso:

[Isolde]

Sprat's baclofun journey

I absolutely concur with everything Lo0p said. And this is speaking from personal experience. I miscalculated the time frame on my VERY FIRST reorder and had to titrate down to zero before it showed up (which fortunately was only a couple of days later). I just assumed it would take as long to come in as my first order had. Ha! :H It actually still came in within the time frame that the website stated though, and luckily that was my only mishap when I was ordering from overseas. Even if any of the other shipments HAD taken an inordinately long amount of time, I learned from my first screw up and ordered COPIOUS amounts of bac up bac! I've been getting a script from my doc since December and I still have leftover international bac, and I'll hang onto it, JUST IN CASE!!
Luckily I'd done tons of reading on this site prior to realizing that I probably wasn't going to have enough bac to last me at the dose I was on before my next shipment came through. So I knew to start titrating down early enough so that I could safely get down to zero mgs if need be, which I did have to do.

Here are words you are going to need to live by going forward - YOU CAN NEVER HAVE TOO MUCH BAC UP BAC!!

And yes, Lo0p's a great guy, as you should be able to tell by his genuine concern.

[tiptronic_ct]

Sprat's baclofun journey

Sprat,

I also ran out at my 1st attempt. Just wanted to confirm what the others have said: don't let it happen.

Having had to taper down rapidly fairly recently (again because of international supply problems and very limited local prescription-based supply), the early signs of baclofen withdrawal for me was irritability and muscle stiffness. I handled it in a similar way one would when tapering off alcohol. Thank fuck I didn't have to taper to zero, because I think it would have been a nasty ride. As Lo0p pointed out, you haven't been on it for long so you should be OK, but one cannot be too careful.

Oh... and good luck

[Sprat]

Sprat's baclofun journey

Thanks everyone for the advice/ warnings. I knew i joined here for something. :thanks: Very true the packages have come smoothly but it is wrong to assume it will be.

I don't have much time before work but just want to say

1. I will titrate down a bit to extend my stash

2. I will seek some local bac up. I don't go this route at first cause i'm fairly certain I could never get anyone to prescribe it for this off-use reason and could get at most 30 mg a day.
But that's better then 0 if India's postal union goes on strike or something.

3. Order more than i need, lots more.

Thanks again. I'd love to post lots of cool smilies but I get lost in the 100s so i'll just stick to the ones on the right. :thanks: :new:

To end on a positive, i woke up 5 minutes before my alarm today and that is a beautiful thing.

Sprat

[eight days a week]

Sprat's baclofun journey

Sprat;1110395 wrote:

1. I will titrate down a bit to extend my stash

2. I will seek some local bac up. I don't go this route at first cause i'm fairly certain I could never get anyone to prescribe it for this off-use reason and could get at most 30 mg a day.
But that's better then 0 if India's postal union goes on strike or something.

I would say:

1. Plan now to titrate down to almost nothing by the time your next delivery is due.

2. If you're an expat in Japan just get yourself to see a decent Doctor and tell him/her you're on 100mgs Baclofen daily, prescribed from home, and your prescription has been interrupted, so it's an emergency. Simply explain withdrawals can be very serious, get them to look it up if needed. You'll get a prescription.

[Sprat]

Sprat's baclofun journey

Great idea. You have experience with this? You think he'll say, "Well why are you on 100mgs of bac?" And i can say, TMJ or anxiety?

I was going to ask Ne if her friend in Japan got bac for off use or found a sympathic dr.

And loop, i have to say that now that you mentioned it, it is fucking insane to time my dosage to the day it arrives. I don't want to have to keep hitting refresh on the Mail Tracking Page website. Glad i posted the details and you read/ responded.

Along with everyone else. Ok, off to work, will check back tonite.

[eight days a week]

Sprat's baclofun journey

I'll send a PM

[Sprat]

Sprat's baclofun journey

Hi people,

I feel weird to keep posting about myself but its what others have done and it helped so quick update:
dropped down to 70mg today, felt great, no SEs besides feeling mildly pleasant, great gym workout and 30 minute run (6.5km!). And AF for the 3rd night in 4.

Time for the weekend... have to keep my hands busy! Devil and all.

Have a fantastic day everyone.

Btw, i pm'd 8 days for more doc info. Will let you know next week. I'm still blown away that so many people who got what they needed from this forum still hang around and help people. *grateful*

[tiptronic_ct]

Sprat's baclofun journey

Hiya Sprat

Be patient - reach a high enough dose, and posting about yourself will seem like the most natural thing in the world :H

Good going on the AF days :goodjob:

Good luck for the weekend. It sounds like you're fairly well-prepared, though.

[Sprat]

Sprat's baclofun journey

Sprat's TMI post

Well the hands couldn't keep busy enough and after a full day of activities I gave in to the drink in the late afternoon. At that point I'd had 62.5 mgs in me. By the end I had a pint of whiskey in me.

I may be here awhile so I might as well introduce myself better. I'm a 40 yr old American man. My first time drunk was 9th grade graduation. My friend came to my place before the party and we hit the p's liquor cabinet. They hardly drank but kept supplies. There was no peer pressure, don't know who suggested it. We poured a little of each bottle in glasses so they wouldn't notice. So my first drink was a long island iced tea, without the coke or the ice. Tasted nasty. That night I got drunk, got lucky and threw up. And i fell in love with being a binge drinking slut. I have never had a normal relationship with sex or alcohol.

I continued to binge drink and drug but during my 20s I had roommates and didn't start the hooch til the evening. I moved out on my own in my 30s and sometimes on the weekends would start early. Then I got married, had a child and things have progressed. I still drink more and faster then everyone else when I go out. My beef is at home I don't feel comfortable in my own skin. I have a great family. But when I am home at 6 for dinner and I am not drinking I feel awkward. Like I am not doing anything. Drinking at home gives me the weird feeling that I am doing something. Like progressing towards getting drunk, I guess.
Hungover day (weekday)...
Wake up: no way am I drinking today 0%,
12pm: feeling better but shouldn't drink tonight 25%
2pm: well that wasn't too bad but better not to drink 50%
4pm: true, i don't go in to work til 9 and I have beers in the fridge 75%
5pm: dammit, hurry up 6pm i can't wait 100%.

Its a ping feeling. All day: should I? no, should I? no, should I? no, should I? maybe not... what?, a crack in the wall. Much easier to say that I will and get on with it.

So 5 or 6 days a week i grab a pint of something and 4 beers before going home. I don't want alcohol in the house because then i don't have a choice, instead I make myself choose every afternoon, going through the 'ping' scenario all day. Great waste of mental energy.

Anyway, the bac will support my wall. I've felt good recently, I feel good now. But I'm off tomorrow too, got to keep busy!

Cheers everyone. Thanks for letting my unburden my soul,
Sprat

[Isolde]

Sprat's baclofun journey

Sprat;1110995 wrote:
Hungover day (weekday)...
Wake up: not drinking today for sure 0%,
12pm: feeling better but shouldn't drink tonight 25%
2pm: well that wasn't too bad but better not to drink 50%
4pm: true, i don't go in to work til 9 and I have beers in the fridge 75%
5pm: dammit, hurry up 6pm i can't wait 100%.

I can completely relate. As I'm sure just about everybody else here can, too! You're gonna :h bac! It completely removes that waffling "should I or shouldn't I?" mentality. And that is incredibly freeing.

Because of the psychological aspect and all of the things that we've associated with having a drink over the years, you may still consider having a drink on occasion, even after reaching indifference. But bac gives you the ability to make a CHOICE, to say, "Yeah, I'll go ahead and have one" or "Nah, I'm good" and think no more about it. It's not the whole body craving that really leaves you no choice. Bac gives you your power bac.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Sprat's baclofun journey

tiptronic_ct;1110666 wrote:
Be patient - reach a high enough dose, and posting about yourself will seem like the most natural thing in the world :H
What he said.

Sprat;1110995 wrote: Its a ping feeling. All day: should I? no, should I? no, should I? no, should I? maybe not... what?, a crack in the wall. Much easier to say that I will and get on with it.

Loved your whole post, but THAT is a great description of my experience over the last couple of years.

Isolde;1111028 wrote: It's not the whole body craving that really leaves you no choice. Bac gives you your power bac.

What she said.