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[Lo0p]

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spuddleduck;1113872 wrote: LOOP. IM NOT SURE WHY YOU ARE SHOUTING AT US,,,, IS IT AN SE FROM BAC.
Yes.

STFU

spuddleduck;1113872 wrote: no insults, no personal references please
Seriously? In the same post?

Here, one more time:

spuddleduck;1113872 wrote: LOOP. IM NOT SURE WHY YOU ARE SHOUTING AT US,,,, IS IT AN SE FROM BAC.

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spuddleduck;1113872 wrote: no insults, no personal references please....

Do you understand now? Should I put in construction paper with crayon in big letters? Would that help?

Oh and, I like your quote too.

[Noelle]

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Lo0p;1113840 wrote: blah, blah, blah.

Honestly Lo0p, I can barely read your posts because I'm always looking at your avatar!!! :H

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[airam]

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UK please keep posting. I am very interested.
I m starting Naltrexone (along with topiramate) too, and I am having very good results. I certainly know this may be the honeymoon, but anyway, I m glad to have cravings reduced so significantly.
I m very happy for you.

[eight days a week]

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I can absolutely see both sides* here.

I don't think Loop's been rude at all - he's posting out of genuine concern for UK and others like her who are using Naltrexone, and may or may not be following TSM with it. He's passionate about helping people out of this hole, and I too was often perplexed at the way UK used Baclofen, drank on it, and expected it to work when I dropped in (I hope you don't mind me saying that I think you had the wrong expectations perhaps UK, and as Loop says didn't inform yourself).

Against that we simply have the fact that different horses suit different courses. It was obvious to me pretty early on that Bac while still drinking didn't suit UK and never would, but bless her she still tried her hardest to stick it out (that says a lot for your determination UK!)

Now UK's found something which works for her tremendously well so far (great stuff )

Loop's just concerned because of all the experience he has with people using Naltrexone and is doing his best (as always) to help as he thinks he can best. Good stuff! At the same time, I can say that I love Loop to bits, and like to think I know him pretty well (in a forum sense) but I still struggle to follow him from time to time. Not because I doubt him at all, ever, just because he's such a unique fella (in the best sense ) and has such an active mind.

Loop and I have very different ideas about Naltrexone and TSM I'm pretty sure. One day I'll start a VERY big debate on here and on the TSM forum about it (no doubt the debate will 'take off' more over there than here though because they have so much more invested in it). But I only want it to be helpful, and it's a discussion that needs to take place.

Basically. I tried TSM for seven months. I had the strong initial reaction and the 'honeymoon'. Both were meant to be good indicators that Nal worked for me and that I should stick with it because it would eventually work. I stuck with it, almost killing myself in the process, and it never worked. I accept that it may have needed more than seven months for me, but that's too long a timeframe for people who are so far gone. So I found Bac, which helped within just a few months (very slow titration due to horrendous SEs and no-one to help me through it).

ANYWAY, my main point is that I got friendly privately with up to about thirty people from the TSM forum, and so I was able to follow their stories. Only one or two were possibly 'cured' as per the book and forum - that is, they were doing increasingly better the last I heard from them, but then completely disappeared, and are now uncontactable.

The largest group, (other than those who gave up on Naltrexone and/or TSM completely eventually - I would say 20 out of 30 - and none of them less than seven or eight months into it, and many up to a year or well over that), were those who had effects like UK. For them Nal made an immediate impact, and kept them there for a good while. I've lost touch with most of those guys now because they just drifted away into a 'normal' life, and so they had no more need to speak to me (I was still struggling at that point!) I guess but I of course wish them well

Right, well, absolutely exhausted here after being woken all last night thanks to a broken smoke alarm (I may just as well have been smoking my ciggies in bed rather than going outside :H) Hope my post made some sense!!







* But there are, actually, no sides here. Everyone is posting because they care so much about the subject, want to help themselves and others, and so we're all in the same boat

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I'm sorry but I actually know I will still need help and support in this journey, but it's posts like some of those I've seen here that really put me off asking for that help. Which is pretty sad.

Whilst I know everyone here does want to help each other, I'm afraid that I find the personal piss-taking/jousting/jabbing type humour (whatever it is) very difficult - and some of that is coming from those I would require the help, support and information from.

Eight days that isn't quite correct, whilst I did start to drink daily(something quite unusual for me, and a reaction to how I felt on bac) when I first started baclofen, after a couple of weeks this stopped and had many AF periods(4, 5 and 6 days at a time even)- most of the time I actually wasn't drinking, but was suffering horrendously. Then when I hit 180mgs I manage to stop drinking completely for 3 weeks, and held myself there hoping the side effects would subside they didn't. I think at one point I only drank on two occasions in a 4 week time period, after giving in eventually - I basically felt so awful I either wanted to die or drink. All the time I was doing this others were saying it was rubbish that you couldn't drink whilst on Baclofen, that you could carry on. Needless to say I did put in AF time whilst on baclofen, and only drank constantly in the initial stages.

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I don't understand the science behind the TSM and nor am I particularly concerned with it, at this point.

I will say, however, that suddenly you are a breath of fresh air UK. All the best with your way out. I'll be behind you every step, if that's what you'd like.

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bleep;1113912 wrote: I don't understand the science behind the TSM and nor am I particularly concerned with it, at this point.

I will say, however, that suddenly you are a breath of fresh air UK. All the best with your way out. I'll be behind you every step, if that's what you'd like.

All I want to do is beat this, and be happy and healthy. I'm prepared to give this a go and if there are bumps, then there are bumps. I've been trying to sort this out for 8 long years, and have been drinking for the best part of 20 years. Yes I am on my guard, I shall just have to wait and see what happens. I've been prepared for the return of raging drinking for a while now, I have woken up every day in the last few weeks wondering when this nice period is going to end - when it is I'll drink and not be able to stop, but it's not happened yet. It might do but who knows.

Your support is most appreciated Bleep. I did once get a bit cross regards an innocent comment you made on one of my old postings. One day we'll have a great laugh about it, but not quite yet!

[Lo0p]

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Ukblonde;1113904 wrote: I'm sorry but I actually know I will still need help and support in this journey, but it's posts like some of those I've seen here that really put me off asking for that help. Which is pretty sad.

Whilst I know everyone here does want to help each other, I'm afraid that I find the personal piss-taking/jousting/jabbing type humour (whatever it is) very difficult - and some of that is coming from those I would require the help, support and information from.

Could you explain this more concisely please and use quotes?

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I'm so happy for you Uk! It's wonderful to hear that Naltrexone is working for you.

Keep fighting the good fight

K

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Loop, I understand what you were trying to say and I appreciate your passion in trying to get your message across to those trying TSM. I hear ya.

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Well I appear to have drunk more since I opened this thread. It obviously doesn't work, and as Loop predicts I will not have the commitment to follow this through best give up now.

[Guitarista]

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UK,

Keep it going and give yourself a chance. You deserve it.

Re-jig your plan if you need to. Now go for it.

Best wishes, G-bloke.

[spuddleduck]

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ukb, good on ya for being positive about this. im sure you have done plenty of research on it. im very interested as i intend trying nal.
loop i hear what you are saying and i presume you wouldnt take the time to post unless you were trying to help, but it does come across as a bit negative. it is great to have the information and thanks for putting it out here. call me a bit dumb/sensitive but if i had just started nal and read some of that i would have thrown in the towel and thought f7ck it, its not gonna work.
thanks for this thread and please keep all the info coming...... i hope it keeps working uk

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Ta Spuds

Did have a situation last night were I thought I was going on a proper bender, and I was a bit scared but once again I stopped at a fraction(around 1/3) of the amount I could put away before I started Nal almost 4 weeks ago. I'd even gone back to the off-licence and bought in more supplies, thinking I was carrying on but couldn't even finish what I already had off!Bottles now in cupboard, just like the others that have sat there for days this week.

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Uk can you not get rid of the bottles in the house, just saying,it might help a bit.