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applekat26;1123490 wrote: I'm glad it's working for you. It makes me feel soooo sick whenever I try it, even if I cut the dosage way down....trying bac now and looking into ibogaine.

Sorry you have that reaction, I do have the nausea but it's bearable. Last night I got it whilst drinking but I was drinking faster than usual.

Had a really horrid, motivationless day yesterday. Stayed in bed feeling tired, didn't have any commitments and so just moped. Don't know why but I know part of it was because I allowed myself to be that way. Then because I felt I'd wasted the best part of the day I really wanted to get spannered. Bought a load of booze, took the nal late but did wait a whole hour (70 minutes to be precise). Gulped down the first bottle, well actually left a bit in the bottom, then went upstairs with the second (something I haven't done in weeks). Couldn't finish that. Did start to feel sick right then, and woke in the night convinced I was going to start throwing up. I didn't but it was close. I am putting it down to the fact I drank quicker than usual.

Quick estimate of the damage and appears I only consumed 4 units. I'd really like an AF day today, I'm sure it'll lift me.

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Hey I've gotten 2 night AF under my belt now, quite pleased because I felt the drinking just a little bit every night was starting to become a new habit. Ok was only a few units but I was 'looking forward' to it each day. I did it one night at a time and got last night down, this evening I was tempted to go out see a gig but realised I had a better chance if I stopped in. So I did and got down to making my outfit for a fancy dress thing at weekend.

Feeling great, can't drink now until Sunday since I'm on driving duty. No overwhelming urges and so far this week looks like;

Monday 2 units
Tuesday 4 units
Weds 0
Thurs 0

It's starting to get scary, could I be fixed or is there something around the corner? Having heeded Lo0p's warnings I'm still peeking out, waiting to fall off the cliff but it hasn't happened and I'm in week 7. Sure there have been spikes but it's not been anywhere near as bad as pre-nal. Last two weeks have been pretty much in control. Would be interesting to know how/why/when you considered yourself successful with TSM.

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Hiya, Ukb!
I can't answer that question, as you know, but I can certainly suggest that you have the answer!
How about, um, it's a success? Week 7 and you're doing really well? Can't get drunk. Not drinking more than usual. Drinking significantly less? Sounds suspiciously like it's working. I'm so glad.

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You know UKb, even though you've privately suggested to me that you don't like my input I feel like I've got to weigh in here.

In my experience, I've never known anyone to have a honeymoon lasting 7 weeks. Especially with someone who HAS been drinking as often as you. Drinking almost nightly without a return of anything remotely like your previous habit for 7 weeks is, to put it bluntly, fuckin' awesome.

I don't recall anyone having an experience like yours...(ever?)...I wouldn't expect your drinking to get worse at this stage. I've got nothing to base that assumption on save the fact that in the (very) few cases that I've seen someone have such a positive response so quickly, it never got worse.

Honeymoons last 2 weeks, maybe 3.

:l

Keep it up. Just remember, never ever break the golden rule. :goodjob:

[kaza]

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Hi UK - congratulations on the Nal, I take it too, haven't had any problems and have been taking it since February so hang in there and WELL DONE. Love and Sunshine Kaza

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Lo0p

I actually value your input very much, what I meant was that sometimes the way in which you post isn't constructive for me. Gentle pointers and small bits of encouragement tend to work better, if I'm 'told' I just get defensive. Thank you for your reassurance, it does mean a lot.

Anyway here I am I don't feel competely in the clear, I do have to make some sort of effort the Nal doesn't do it all for me - I could have drunk and pushed it to 12 units last night, but I didn't want to drink and was able to make that decision without going through any sort of agonising process.

Next goal is/was to try and get this prescribed via the National Health Service(I'm getting it on private prescription from a Dr up in Edinburgh at the moment), if only to have support locally (Drs in this country have to see you in person periodically to prescribe)- then of course it'll be significantly cheaper too. This is more difficult than it seems since Naltrexone is only licenced here for use with drug addicts, although it is licenced for alcohol in other countries. So far I'm being bounced around between GP and the Drugs and Alcohol Team. Considering the recent press about the costs of rising alcohol-related hospital admissions, it would be a pretty good idea if the NHS would show some support with Naltrexone for me. I have been admitted to hospital many times as a result of things I've done under the influence of alcohol, and I've invested a lot of my own cash into solving this problem.

Oh and good to hear you are doing well too Kaza. Have you regained control yet?

[ik1966]

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:goodjob::goodjob::goodjob:

i am proud of you congrats!!!
you don't know me yet buti've been reading your posts and i am glad you 've such a success with the nal...

hugs irini

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Hi UKB
Not quite sure what you mean by have I regained control yet - if you mean AF, then I guess I have so far because I haven't had a drink since February, when I first started Nal and came to MWO, and with the support of both all my friends here and the Nal, I have come this far AF. However, I am always aware of what I was and what could happen, so on the other hand maybe control is not the word. The cost for Nal here is $34.00 per month, I also have great support from my Doctor. I think you are doing BRILLIANTLY and you will succeed in your goals, I just know it. So CONGRATULATIONS. We are all human and I have never met a perfect one yet, I don't think we were ever built to be that way, so I know that I could/may/probably will fail in the future (and if I do I will just try again harder) so all I can do is keep trying to attain what I started out to do. I think if we take one day at a time then things will work out, and the old saying is, if at first you don't succeed then try, try and try again. So Love and Sunshine Always Kaza

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kaza;1125469 wrote: Hi UKB
Not quite sure what you mean by have I regained control yet - if you mean AF, then I guess I have so far because I haven't had a drink since February, when I first started Nal and came to MWO, and with the support of both all my friends here and the Nal, I have come this far AF. However, I am always aware of what I was and what could happen, so on the other hand maybe control is not the word. The cost for Nal here is $34.00 per month, I also have great support from my Doctor. I think you are doing BRILLIANTLY and you will succeed in your goals, I just know it. So CONGRATULATIONS. We are all human and I have never met a perfect one yet, I don't think we were ever built to be that way, so I know that I could/may/probably will fail in the future (and if I do I will just try again harder) so all I can do is keep trying to attain what I started out to do. I think if we take one day at a time then things will work out, and the old saying is, if at first you don't succeed then try, try and try again. So Love and Sunshine Always Kaza

Oh ok, so you haven't drank on the naltrexone?This would mean you haven't gone down the pharmacological extinction route, which is the mechanism via which you regain control - meaning you can drink if you wish, or decide not to drink based on the reprogramming of your reward systems.

My ultimate aim is to be AF, but also to have that choice via using the Sinclair Method, as a result resetting the link beween drinking and having a high. Following the Sinclair method you do have to drink in order to remove the reward system link for alcohol (which is release of endorphins). At some point most people find they regain control over alcohol via this method, this usually seems to take between 6 - 9 months of combining Nal with drinking.

I know I'm not there yet, but I feel not far away. I am having urges and cravings but they aren't that bad at all. When I do drink it's only a few units at a time, but I do know when I drink it is still driving some cravings to drink the next day. Ultimately I'll feel 'fixed' when I only drink occasionally (perhaps once week or even less), and do not think about it at all.

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Hi UKB
No I haven't had a drink on Naltrexone, so I guess I haven't done the pharmacological extinction route you have mentioned, sorry but I have no desire to drink, maybe my mindset was working for me when I started Nal, but hey this is working for me, so I will just keep doing what I'm doing I think. Good Luck in your quest, you will get there I am sure, in fact I know you will. Kaza

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kaza;1125941 wrote: Hi UKB
No I haven't had a drink on Naltrexone, so I guess I haven't done the pharmacological extinction route you have mentioned, sorry but I have no desire to drink, maybe my mindset was working for me when I started Nal, but hey this is working for me, so I will just keep doing what I'm doing I think. Good Luck in your quest, you will get there I am sure, in fact I know you will. Kaza

Hey no problems, just interested whatever works is all good. I didn't feel like a drink for the first week, and can have AF days anyway but wanted to get rid of the drive to drink - which plagues me whenever I abstain. I went out clubbing/to a music event last night, drank more than I wanted to since a friend kept buying rounds and shoving bottles in my hand. I got sick of it and stopped at 4 drinks (1.1 units each), I just couldn't see or feel any point in continuing so had to say "No thanks". Went home pretty soon after that since I was just feeling tired, and the evening had lost it's sparkle at that point. Funny how that happens these days.

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stopping at 4 drinks. wow. i could never do that and i suspect you couldnt have done in the past either so thats great.

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spuddleduck;1126047 wrote: stopping at 4 drinks. wow. i could never do that and i suspect you couldnt have done in the past either so thats great.

Yes I was a right party-pooper, in years gone by I would have been the last person on the dance floor, as well as at the bar. Never mind roaming around looking for anything else to get trollied on. Did have some booze back in my hotel room, but I didn't touch it and proudly brought it back home this morning.

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An AF Sunday over, was considering having a drink but then something came up that took up my time - and required being sober for. No problems at all, no cravings and was even offered some wine but said "No thanks".

This weeks stats are;

10.5 units across
3 drinking sessions (2,4 & 4.5)
4 days AF

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:goodjob::goodjob::goodjob:
yes!!!!!!!!!!