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**bleep** · May 29, 2011, 02:20 AM

Birdy02 Kelly mybaclofenstory.info Where are you?

I've checked through my history terry, but no joy unfortunately.

Don't quote me on this, but check with the administrator of Baclofen Forum - I seem to remember seeing it there, and my browser history supports this, but I couldn't find it when I looked. It's possible they posted it and then removed it, in which case they are likely to have a copy.

**tiptronic_ct** · May 29, 2011, 02:39 AM

Birdy02 Kelly mybaclofenstory.info Where are you?

Send her a PM, terry - many (if not most) of us receive an email notification when one is sent.

**tiptronic_ct** · May 29, 2011, 02:40 AM

Birdy02 Kelly mybaclofenstory.info Where are you?

There is the option of sending an email as well, if the user has made that option available.

**Ne/Neva Eva** · May 29, 2011, 05:54 AM

Birdy02 Kelly mybaclofenstory.info Where are you?

I've tried both. Starting last November. I wonder if someone knows her? Her last name, I mean?

**Zephra** · May 29, 2011, 06:49 AM

Birdy02 Kelly mybaclofenstory.info Where are you?

Hi Terry, they have a copy of Birdie's story on Baclofen Forum on the first page under addiction. z

**terryk** · May 29, 2011, 07:57 AM

Birdy02 Kelly mybaclofenstory.info Where are you?

Thanks Zephra!

Here is Birdy02's story, posted/preserved on MWO (Please contact me Birdy02 if you'd like it removed):

Hi Everyone! I want to start by thanking all of you on the My Way Out forum for your postings. Through reading all your postings I was encouraged and given the hope I needed to continue on the Baclofen path until reaching my "switch". There were many times when I felt real unsure and down but all I had to do was get on the forum and read about others difficulties and successes to get re-inspired. It was not easy but I finally made it. It took me about 5 months. I want to write my whole experience down in case it can help someone, somehow, in their own path to freedom through Baclofen. I certainly have no magic answers to all the difficulties but I can share my difficulties and the wonderful results of reaching the "switch".

I reached the switch at 270mg/day on April 11, 2010. I drank (minus a few days) the whole time until I reached the switch. I weigh 163 lbs (73.9Kg) so my switch occurred at 3.7 mg/Kg body weight.

First, some background. I am a 41 year old female. I worked all of my adult life until 2005 when I became a stay-at-home-Mom. I tell you this because I always thought once I had a nice family and kids I would quit drinking. I did quit (grudgingly) during my pregnancies and through most of the breastfeeding but once I was able to start drinking I went right back to my high levels every night (even though I didn't think I would). It wasn't until mid 2009 when I was finally able to call myself an "alcoholic". Prior to that I called my situation all the gentler names like alcohol abuse or an alcohol problem.

I was drinking about 9-12 light beers a night and sometimes the more potent micro-brews and sometimes wine was mixed in there. I usually started drinking around 4-5pm and drank until I went to bed. I started drinking every night when I was about 23 (right after college). The quantity was a lot less back then as my tolerance was lower and I may not have done it EVERY night at first but it was quite often and every time I would drink until I was intoxicated.

I have always had a problem with alcohol from the first time I ever tasted it - high school. I didn't have access to it so it was rare but when I did get the opportunity to drink I did so until I was wasted or the alcohol was gone. In college I didn't drink during the week but I drank like a fish on the weekends. In other words, I have never been a controlled drinker.

It wasn't until the late nineties when I admitted to myself that I had a problem. Then in mid 2009 I finally gave up the idea of quitting on my own devices. I admitted I was an alcoholic and started seeking help. To keep this shorter, I'll just say that I went to various doctors, tried Topomax, Antabuse, Campral, with no success, and then finally ended up on Baclofen. I am currently seeing a counselor who is an advanced practice registered nurse (APRN) so she can prescribe medicine. She entered the picture when I tried the Campral and she was the one that suggested it and prescribed it for me.

I read about Baclofen on this forum then told her about using Baclofen to control cravings (but not about the high doses). She was not familiar with it being used that way but she had no problem prescribing it up to 80mg and said she uses it all the time on her pain patients. She said it is very safe (she was referring to the levels up to 80mg) and that it is non-addictive. She started me out on 30 mg in mid-November 2009. I stayed at 30 mg for a month. In mid-December when I saw her again she prescribed 60mg and at that time I went on up to 60mg and I ordered extra online and started ramping up.

I used two different online pharmacies and I did not have any problems with either one. I used 4RX.COM: Your Online Source For Affordable Generic Medications which has Baclofen called Lioresal. I bought the 100 tabs of 25 mg. I also used http://www.inhousepharmacy.com where they sell Pacifen in 10 mg tablets. I'm not entirely certain why I chose these two. I believe I thought the price was right and these were two that most people from the MWO forum spoke well of. I only ordered once or twice from Inhouse because I just didn't use tons of 10 mg pills but I ordered MANY times from 4rx. I'm not sure but I think it is 4rx that has a stamp on the outside of the packaging stating that there is Baclofen inside. To me that wasn't a big deal because Baclofen can be used for many other things and it, unfortunately, is not well known for its use with alcoholism.

Then, of course, I also had my prescription Baclofen. I also believe, like many others on the forum, that the prescription Baclofen (20 mg tablets) is stronger than the overseas (more on that later). I did not see any difference between 4rx and Inhouse but I never did a side-by-side comparison. I also did not see any variation in consistency from one order to the next. I have every reason to believe that the online Baclofen was effective and consistent in my experience.

I went quickly from 30mg/day to 60mg/day in a week or so. I stayed at 60 for about 5 days then went to 80. When I was at 30 and 60 I divided it into 3 even doses. I when I went to 80 on Dec 21st I went to 4 doses of 20 each. I chose to spread mine out starting out (as opposed to taking all the doses in the afternoon/evenings) because I suffer from depression and anxiety. Depression more so than anxiety and my depression is treated right now with Celexa which I took all through this.

My records are not perfect but pretty good. My increases were either 10 or 20mg when I went up and I tried to do it every 3 days or so but it varied based on what I was feeling and what I had going on that day. For example, if I was scheduled to go up on a certain day but I had some longer distance driving to do for some reason then I would wait an extra day. If I was having bad side effects (SE's) then I would wait before increasing. If I was feeling decent then I may only go 1 or 2 days before an increase. I have a record of my total dose and what each individual dose was for nearly every day and I will be glad to post it if anyone is interested.

From Jan 15 to Jan 19 I went from 150 to 190. This was too quick. At 190 I had was very light-headed, some nausea, tired and uncomfortable. On Jan 20th I went down to 180. At this time I was still taking 4 doses a day and they looked like this:

35mg in the morning (around 7-8 am)
60mg around noon
55mg in the late afternoon
30mg at bedtime

January 24 I started to become worried about drinking while taking Bac. I sometimes felt like I was not breathing enough when I slept. I call it a kind of "shallow" breathing. Kind of like you are half awake and you sort of have to remind yourself to breathe. It wasn't uncomfortable (like I had later) but just a little unnerving. So, at this time I decided I would back down and "white-knuckle" going AF then go back up to hit the switch.

On Jan 30th I was down to 160mg/day and I tried a little bit of antabuse because I was having no luck quitting on my own. Antabuse did the same thing it has done to me in the past - it kept me from drinking but made me SEVERELY depressed so I did not stay on it. I came on down to 140mg a day then on Feb 9th I decided to go to a three times a day dosing and take my third and last dose of the day in the late afternoon so I was not taking one at bedtime. I was still drinking but I thought this would help with the breathing stuff.

As a side note, in early February I saw my APRN Counselor again and I gave her a copy of the book. I told her what I was doing by ordering online Bac and that I was drinking less but had not reached the switch. She was excited about the progress but she could not prescribe more than 80mg. So she gave me the 80 mg and said she would read the book and share it with the doctors in her practice. (I see her again in early May and can't wait to tell her about it - she is one of those that will help spread the news.

I then proceeded back up and by Feb 26th I was up to 210. Then, on March 2nd, still at 210mg, I had a huge setback. I had an overdose. I was extremely dizzy, light-headed, nauseous, and kind of seeing light-pattern hallucinations. I made a really incredibly stupid decision (probably as a result of the Bac and took my third dose a little later than normal and a little less. That put me over the edge and I was throwing up and so tired but scared to go to bed because I was afraid I would die. I felt absolutely awful, terribly drugged and scared. I was alone with the kids, my husband was travelling and it was all I could do to get them ready for bed.

The next day I immediately went down to 160mg. I stayed there for a few days then I went back up and hovered around 190-200mg until the end of March. I really didn't know what to do. I managed five days in a row of AF during that time but I still had to force it and it didn't last. I did some reading and thinking and made some changes. First of all I realized how stupid it was to take another dose while I was OD. I did it because I thought Bac was only supposed to stay around for 4 hours or so and I was then afraid of withdrawal (which makes no sense in that OD situation). I had made a poor decision while I was drugged out on Bac. I also realized during that time that taking my doses about 4-5 hours apart were too close together for me. I will talk more about this in the notes at the end.

So, around the end of March I decided to go for it again. In my research I could not find where anyone has ever died of a Baclofen overdose and in fact I believe there was a lady that tried to kill herself with 2000mg in one dose but she was unsuccessful. Also there were a bunch of high school students who took some doses in the hundreds of mg at one time and they all lived. So, I decided a little shallow breathing at night was not going to stop me and I switched my dosing to 3 times a day but with at least 6 hours apart; one around 8am, one in the mid-afternoon (2-3pm) and one in the middle of the evening or at bedtime.

By April 3 I was at 230, April 6: 240, April 7:250, April 9: 260, April 10: 270, and on April 11th at 270mg I had my second serious overdose AND I hit the switch. This overdose was very bad also but in a slightly different way. Again, I had all the same symptoms as before but I did not get sick this time. I had more "light shows" when I closed my eyes than the last time and even when they were open I would see some light shows on walls. I felt terribly drugged. But the worst thing of all was that I was so tired but when I tried to sleep I would stop breathing and jerk awake and sit straight up with a panicky/suffocated feeling. This was something completely different than the "shallow breathing". It was terrible. I got practically no sleep that night.

Anyway, I have not wanted a drink since then. I immediately came down to 240 mg and have been bobbling around 240-260mg to try and keep a high dose for a week before starting to dose down. The "switch" is so real and is totally amazing.

I was pretty sure I had hit the switch on April 12th following the overdose. I had NO interest in alcohol or in drinking. I was very hopeful but I had a few days feeling like this while dosing up but it never lasted more than a day at the most. After feeling the same way on April 13th I started to feel elated and knew it was the real switch. When you reach it you will know. If you flash a picture of your favorite drink in your mind and imagine yourself going to get one, you will just think, "no thanks". One night I came home from an evening coupon class and normally I would have been dying for a beer after a long day of no drinking, instead I actually WANTED some popcorn and a diet root beer OVER a beer. It was absolutely incredible.

One thing I have noticed in this week since reaching the switch is that although the cravings are gone, the triggers are still rampant. But, I guess that is to be expected. After almost 20 years of basically drinking every day I guess it is not strange that it pops in my brain many times during the day. The difference is that it leaves instead of producing a craving.

Here's how it happens. Kids are whining, throwing tantrums, having a bad day and in a split second my brain says,"I need a drink!" Then I tell myself that there is beer in the refrigerator and I imagine going to get one and I say "no thanks". Or, what happened this morning was that I overheard my husband and daughter talking about her T-ball game tonight and the thought popped instantly into my mind that I would not be able to drink tonight until after the game. Then I was like, "oh-yeah, I don't drink!!!!" This type of thing happens to me all the time. I also find that I have a little more irritation around my old witching hour each day. It's like I am looking for some kind of relaxing escape. But now, instead of focusing on alcohol I am searching for something like a snack, time on the computer, my husband to watch the kids for a little while, etc. I still have to learn new ways of relaxing since all I have really ever known is to drown myself in alcohol every night.

One of the greatest things about the switch is that I really feel like a new person. My confidence is starting to come back. I am feeling like I can reach goals that I have wanted for so long but haven't been able to. I have a lot more productive time in the evenings. If I choose to relax in the later evening it is more enjoyable and I have a lot more activities I can choose from now that I am not drunk. It is a dream come true. I always wondered what the switch would feel like and it is every bit as wonderful as Dr. Ameisen and others say it is.

So, that's the general story. Here's a bunch of notes about different aspects of it (sleep, anxiety, side effects, dosing, drinking patterns while on Bac, etc). Please note that I have no medical background and no Doctors advice so take all of this as my opinion/experiences only and NOT medical advice.

SLEEP

I have always had problems with insomnia. In the past I have used antihistamines, Trazadone, Ambien, and of course, alcohol to treat it. Since starting Bac my insomnia has gone away. Of course, I was still drinking through most of this too. However, it was not always as much and the few days I was AF (and since I reached the switch) I do not require any sleep aid to go to sleep. I also can lay down just about any time and get sleepy enough to sleep. So, Bac worked well for me in that respect. I would be very careful using Ambien but Trazadone may work with Bac because it was originally used as an anti-depressant but it didn't work for that because it put all the patients to sleep! I don't know though, be sure to do a drug interaction search if you do not have a doctor to ask. You might also call a pharmacy and ask them.

Trazadone requires a prescription but most doctors will prescribe it easily for sleep. I would be real careful with Ambien or antihistamines. It seems like I've read somewhere that these two are not good with Bac - not sure though. Ambien has worked fantastically for me in the past if you're not taking Bac.

When I am sleeping on Bac, I wake up more often but I go right back to sleep. I also found that I wake up in the morning feeling rather refreshed even if I got less sleep than normal - this has been especially true after hitting the switch.

ANXIETY

I have always had anxiety and depression. I had panic attacks back in 1996 or so and that is when I finally got help for my lifelong depression. Getting help for the depression cured the panic attacks but anxiety has always been present. Early on with the Bac the anxiety was helped somewhat. In general I would say I have been more relaxed throughout this journey but not like a benzo would do for me. At higher doses of Bac I would become somewhat agitated or irritable during the spike after taking each dose. I guess I better talk about that next!

BAC DOSING

I started going up above 80mg/day with a 4/day dosing. My original plan was to do a smaller dose in the morning then more in the early and late afternoon then smaller again at bedtime. The second thing I tried was three times a day with the last one in late afternoon. I finally ended with 3 per day pretty evenly dosed out (i.e. 70, 70, 70) at about 6 or more hours apart. What I found was if I did it much closer than 6 hours then I was compounding what was already in my system and it was more than I could handle at the larger doses. It is beyond me how some people can do mega doses so close together in the afternoon/evening. That would never have worked for me.

I also felt like I needed to constantly wash my body in this stuff for the best effect so I went for spreading it out through the entire day. Even though I don't drink in the mornings, I can usually tell by the latter morning how strong my cravings are going to be later in the day so I thought all-day Bac would be the best for me. That is how Dr Ameisen did it and that is eventually how I made it. Everybody is different though so if you are having problems with the Bac you may want to play with your dosing schedule.

I found that after I took each dose my response was as follows. The first hour after the dose I didn't feel much. From 1-2 hours after the dose I started feeling it more and more. From 2-4 hours after the dose I peaked and felt it a great deal. From 4-6 hours after the dose, it started fading. Once I got above about 60mg/day or so I started feeling each dose quite distinctly. Once I got into the higher levels (150+ or so) I clearly felt each and every rise and fall of the dose. When I was in the higher levels, the peaks of the dose (2-4 hours after dose) were not pleasant. I was tired, kind of dizzy feeling, light-headed, couldn't concentrate very well. It is a drugged feeling without the "high" like from alcohol. Bac certainly does not "replace" alcohol for me! I didn't like it but I had the goal in mind and I knew that once I reached the switch and backed down then the drugged feeling would be gone along with the cravings!

In the peaks of the dose, I also often (not always) felt an increase in anxiety and irritability basically because I didn't feel good. Ironically, before I hit the switch, that yucky, anxious, feeling was sometimes a trigger to start drinking in order to feel better.

SIDE EFFECTS

Wow! What a bunch of side effects! I had several of them but I decided I was going to plow through unless it was physically impossible or extremely dangerous. I wanted that switch really bad. I knew that if the switch was like everyone and Dr Ameisen said, then it was going to be life changing and any side effects would disappear after dosing back down and life would be grand. So far, so good!

I am so saddened to see some of the severe side effects that people get from Baclofen. I have had most of them but not as severe. I can't wait for the medical establishment to run with this. Dr Ameisen had an easy journey through Bac and apparently there is a doctor in Chicago that is doing this successfully for his patients. I'll bet that all the doctors out there also have more meds available to them to help their patients combat the side effects if they would just get on board with this! If I owned a pharmaceutical company I would be sinking a bunch of research into making a pill that does what baclofen does with less side-effects. It is so frustrating to me that so many more people could be cured with Bac and my journey could have been much easier if Doctors would get their heads out of the sand and start helping. Imagine the implications of wiping out alcoholism as a disease!

**terryk** · May 29, 2011, 07:58 AM

Birdy02 Kelly mybaclofenstory.info Where are you?

Anyway, these are the side effects I had:

Sleepiness. I have had some level of sleepiness throughout the whole time. It was better or worse at times but always there to some extent. I don't have enough notes to correlate to anything but if I was too sleepy I stayed at the same dose for a while. I used caffeine but not very much because it is a drinking trigger for me. It raises my anxiety which used to make me want to drink. I also just got up and did something instead of lying around. In church I always sat at the outside of the row so I could slip out and walk around if I got too sleepy. I think getting more sleep at night helps. You may want to try going to bed a little earlier. I accepted the fact that I would be sleepy and just set out to combat it the best I could.

Nausea. I had some nausea earlier in the dosing - this actually got better as I got higher and higher (except for the overdose episodes). It really disappeared for me past somewhere in the 100mgs.

Vertigo. Vertigo is something I had through the whole experience. Not too bad, but rather annoying sometimes. You know, like bumping into a doorway when leaving a room or having to move your foot a little to catch yourself from falling when standing around. In church when standing to pray I better be holding on to something if my head is bowed and eyes are closed! The vertigo was worse during the "peak" 2-4 hours after each dose. The only hazard I had with it was driving. If I turned my head to holler at the kids in the backseat I would find myself wandering off the road. If I took my eyes off the road I was more likely to get off course quicker so once I realized this I could compensate by just paying attention and not looking away much.

Lack of concentration/drugged feeling. This was definitely dose dependent and got worse as the dose increased. This also definitely comes and goes with the "peak" period (2-4 hours after each dose). This was an annoyance to me. I had things I wanted and needed to accomplish and it was harder during this time. I managed to get by but this is one of those things that I can't wait to get rid of as I dose back down to the maintenance level.

Vivid dreams. I did not have any more bad dreams than normal with Bac but they sure were vivid - which was kind of cool sometimes! I only had two dreams where I couldn't wake up and they occurred somewhere in the 100 and something mgs. In both cases I dreamed my daughter had come into the room and I was trying desperately to wake up. Once I finally did, she wasn't there. However, I've have had those dreams before but rarely. I was telling my Mom about it and she said she has had them before too so I don't know if that had anything to do with Bac in my case. However, if I was having scary dreams, the vividness and lack of waking up would be really bad. I do think the dreams have become less vivid over time, or maybe I've just gotten used to them.

Light-headed, dizziness. I kind of lump this in with vertigo and the drugged feeling. Again, this is considerably worse during the "peak" time after the dose.

Shallow breathing. This one had me worried for a while. It was like an incredibly deep state of relaxation where you just go a few seconds without breathing and you kind of say, "oh-yeah, it's time to breathe". It was not uncomfortable - just weird. It made me wonder if I was going to just stop breathing. At first I likened it to sleep apnea but my husband has bad sleep apnea and he goes for long times without breathing. It is terrible. It is probably what I was experiencing when I overdosed. I just finally accepted it as a deep state of relaxation and if it didn't get worse I was going to keep going. It didn't get worse. It may have actually gotten better as I went along - even though I was taking a pretty big Bac dose at bedtime.

Weight gain. I gained about 8-10 pounds in 5 months while on Baclofen. I don't believe that the Bac increased my appetite; I think it just slowed my metabolism down. This does not concern me because I know that now that I am no longer drinking tons of extra calories and now that I am dosing down on the Bac, the weight will come off easily. I'll take a little extra weight to be free of the horrid cravings!

Forgetfulness. This has been annoying and one that I really look forward to getting rid of as I dose down (and not drinking). For me it has not been forgetting words (like I did with Topomax) but I am always forgetting what I was doing or what I am supposed to be doing. For example, my child's registration for preschool was due. I forgot - turned out not to be a problem - but still. My friend asked me to walk with her while our kids were in preschool. I forgot until 30 minutes later when I called and apologized. I am always walking into a room and wondering what I came in for, reaching into a cabinet then realizing what I was looking for was in the one right next to where I was looking. I don't have any blackout memory loss (like drinking can do), just forgetfulness. I have tried to combat it by writing everything down. It helps but this is just one of those things that I realized I had to get through short-term to get the gold at the end of the rainbow.

Restless Leg Syndrome. I'm not sure this is related to Baclofen because I have had this on and off in my life. It has been a little more frequent here recently. It is mostly in my left leg and it will keep me up at night with kind of a moving crampy pain that makes me want to move my legs or get up and walk around - simple solution for me is Ibuprofen.

I have NOT had facial drooping, extra wrinkles, gray hairs or hair loss. I'm 41, some of that is starting anyway but no changes after 5 months on Baclofen.

ABOUT OVER DOSES

The first over dose occurred at 210mg/day after I had been on 210 for several days. Instead of making up my 80mg early afternoon dose out of my usual 2 - 25mg(from 4rx) and 1 - 20mg(from prescription) and 1 - 10mg(from Inhouse), I used 4 of the 20 mg prescription pills. That is why I said earlier that I believe the prescription med is stronger than the online. I would suggest that we be very careful when changing our sources and always err to the safe side (I should have taken 3 instead of 4 of the prescription pills since I had heard others say they were stronger). With the second OD I don't really know what happened, it may be that I was dosing up too quickly at those high doses. In any case of an OD, all I know to do is ride it out. Whatever you do, I would wait at least 12 hours before taking another dose of Bac and I would drop back to 75-80% of what you were taking for a day or two then start back up when you are ready. That's just a suggestion - based on my experience - no hard data.

DEPRESSION

I have a history of severe depression since childhood. I finally got treated for it in the mid-1990's. I have been on and off various anti-depressants since then - mostly on. It is very well controlled by anti-depressants. Right now I am using Celexa. I have not altered my medication throughout the baclofen journey and have not had any problems or changes.

DRINKING PATTERNS WHILE ON BACLOFEN

When I started taking Bac I noticed a decrease in cravings. There were a few days that I was AF or nearly AF because I just didn't want to drink. Those were very encouraging days as they gave me a "taste" of what the switch was like. Many days I drank like normal but often I just didn't want to drink until well into the evening. It was kind of sporadic. However, I was not a sporadic drinker in the past so that always gave me hope. I would say that over all I probably drank about 25% less than normal for the 5 months while I was on Baclofen.

I don't know if drinking while taking Baclofen had any negative effects. If I had waited until I was able to stop drinking before taking the Bac I wouldn't be where I am now - no cravings and not drinking. I don't hear any doctors jumping up and down about problems with giving Baclofen to drinkers so I'm assuming there is not some horrible complication.

It is possible that side-effects would have been better or the switch would have been lower but who can say. I no-doubt have a screwed up chemistry and a very long history with drinking and at no time was a moderate, controlled drinker. So, I'm not surprised my switch was as high as it was. It was the same as Dr. Ameisen's and since we weigh pretty much the same the mg/Kg level is basically the same.

FINALLY

Okay, I think I'm done rambling on. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask me on the forum. Before I go I would like to thank my God, and my Savior, Jesus Christ, for bringing me to this point and staying by my side for the journey. I would also like to thank my husband for his patience. He was not close to this process as I think it made him feel uncomfortable but he allowed me to follow this path to freedom. I am grateful to my parents for their open-mindedness and support. And, of course I am so grateful to Dr Ameisen for his discovery and his endless efforts to spread the word about this cure. I also want to once again thank this forum and all the people who post to it. It was from reading all the posts that I first learned about Baclofen and was able to keep my hope alive while I was dosing up to finally see this day. I want to stay in the forum a few times a week for several years if necessary to give back what was given to me. I hope the medical establishment and the pharmaceutical industry will grab this and run with it. I plan to write a personal letter and make copies and get a few copies of Dr Ameisen's book and send it with a copy of my personal letter to several doctors I have come in contact with and encourage them to share it with others. I hope if you have reached the switch and have the means that you will consider doing the same so we can get the word out quicker.

If you ever have a need to share this link with others, feel free to. I hope this somehow will help others.

Good Luck to All, I pray for the medical establishment to start supporting this cure to this terrible disease and for everyone who is making this journey on their own.
Birdy02

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