Abstinence, Moderation and Indifference
Dave.
I had the same questions a couple of months ago and before I switched. Here is what I did: periodically, I would drink, but I found that after two beers or glasses of wine, my desire for the booze would go away. Plus, it made my head feel really thick, like cold molasses. On the rare occasion that I would have three drinks, I would usually fall asleep till the next morning.
But here's how I knew when I reached indifference (at 300mg): I would go to the market where they sold beer and wine and just look at the bottles. If you still feel like buying, then you haven't reached indifference. But when you do reach it, you will have no feelings at all regarding the booze. None. In fact, you will likely not even like the taste.
SE's are the same as you are experiencing now. The week before I switched I was at 240mg for a week and, initially, I was having a hard time with the SE's. By the end of the week I was feeling better and I decided to go for it, to get it over with. On a Friday, I went up 50mg to 300mg. I did this so I would have the weekend to adjust. I was pretty stoned that weekend and my short term memory was terrible. I also had some terrible insomnia. But, I knew by the second day that I had reached the goal. Even without looking at the bottles, I just knew that I had no interest in drinking. And that, was a liberating experience. I knew that I had conquered alcoholism.
Beware of going down. I went down to fast and had some of the worst SE's that I had come across. I thought that since I had already been there, at a lower dose, that I could just go down quickly. No, no, no. Use the same caution of going down as you do going up, maybe even a little more caution. Currently, I am at 180-200mg and am taking 30mg every three hours. This dosage seems to work well for me, as it has for NE. I have had a beer on occasion, but again, one or two is all I can drink. And forget the wine. It used to be my drink of choice, but now, I can't even stand the smell of it.
Cool, huh!
I say, go ahead and test yourself. See how you feel. Plan ahead and set some goals. You will know when you switch. It could happen anywhere between 200 on up, so keep an eye on your feelings toward the booze. If you get to 300mg and you still have a desire, move a head slowly. That high dose can be...challenging.
Best wishes
Dave_;1161657 wrote: I was 6 months al free then I relapsed. I was on 30 mg of Bac for that period to help with cravings. I went to my doctors after spending some time here and asked if I could increase my doses of bac. He had never taken someone past 100mg before but having read alot about it he was willing to try with a suitable candidate which is luckily me. I have been going up 20 mg a week and am currently at 120mg a day. The se's are ok but I fall alseep at all hours of the day in a snap which is not good but I hope that passes. I also get dizzy from time to time but all in all the se's are manageable.
My question being how do I know if i reach indifference if I am not currently drinking? Do I have to drink to know if I crave it or not? Am I going to have to remain at high doses forever? What are the common se's at really high doses like 250+mgs? Do you just fall asleep everywhere?
My question being how do I know if i reach indifference if I am not currently drinking? Do I have to drink to know if I crave it or not? Am I going to have to remain at high doses forever? What are the common se's at really high doses like 250+mgs? Do you just fall asleep everywhere?
I had the same questions a couple of months ago and before I switched. Here is what I did: periodically, I would drink, but I found that after two beers or glasses of wine, my desire for the booze would go away. Plus, it made my head feel really thick, like cold molasses. On the rare occasion that I would have three drinks, I would usually fall asleep till the next morning.
But here's how I knew when I reached indifference (at 300mg): I would go to the market where they sold beer and wine and just look at the bottles. If you still feel like buying, then you haven't reached indifference. But when you do reach it, you will have no feelings at all regarding the booze. None. In fact, you will likely not even like the taste.
SE's are the same as you are experiencing now. The week before I switched I was at 240mg for a week and, initially, I was having a hard time with the SE's. By the end of the week I was feeling better and I decided to go for it, to get it over with. On a Friday, I went up 50mg to 300mg. I did this so I would have the weekend to adjust. I was pretty stoned that weekend and my short term memory was terrible. I also had some terrible insomnia. But, I knew by the second day that I had reached the goal. Even without looking at the bottles, I just knew that I had no interest in drinking. And that, was a liberating experience. I knew that I had conquered alcoholism.
Beware of going down. I went down to fast and had some of the worst SE's that I had come across. I thought that since I had already been there, at a lower dose, that I could just go down quickly. No, no, no. Use the same caution of going down as you do going up, maybe even a little more caution. Currently, I am at 180-200mg and am taking 30mg every three hours. This dosage seems to work well for me, as it has for NE. I have had a beer on occasion, but again, one or two is all I can drink. And forget the wine. It used to be my drink of choice, but now, I can't even stand the smell of it.
Cool, huh!
I say, go ahead and test yourself. See how you feel. Plan ahead and set some goals. You will know when you switch. It could happen anywhere between 200 on up, so keep an eye on your feelings toward the booze. If you get to 300mg and you still have a desire, move a head slowly. That high dose can be...challenging.
Best wishes
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