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    #76
    TimberTim is in the House!

    murph, it does H. (i had to think hard about that acronym. or is it only an acronym if it spells a word. beatle?). it's really good to know that i will, someday, be getting laid.

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      #77
      TimberTim is in the House!

      I think it's an acronym regardless.

      That going to bed thing? I can't do it if I'm not tired. It feels all wrong. I lie in bed thinking of all the cool things I could be doing.

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        #78
        TimberTim is in the House!

        thanks bleep, for clearing that up. the same question came up at school the other day, as i wondered if i was mis-informing a student. no shocker: i sneak english vocab and grammar lessons into my spanish class.

        i never have the not-tired thing at night. i sit up with my head lolling at the computer, eyes with toothpicks and rolling around, but i don't have the reasonableness to fall into bed. in the morning, though, after one of those too-late nights, i can lose my tired (today is a case in point). unfortunately, this seldom happens on a day that i have to go to work.

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          #79
          TimberTim is in the House!

          Murphyx;1129704 wrote: Here's the rule: You can't lay yourself, someone else has to do it.

          So someone else could lay you down and lay you. Or you lie down and get laid. Either way, you're gonna get laid.

          IHTH
          What the hell, dude? Get your mind out of the gutter. How about you clean it up a bit?

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            #80
            TimberTim is in the House!

            RudyB;1129717 wrote: murph, it does H. (i had to think hard about that acronym. or is it only an acronym if it spells a word. beatle?). it's really good to know that i will, someday, be getting laid.
            You too, RudyB. I don't need to hear about your sex life. Sorry, another side effect of the bac for me is that I am Mr. Cranky pants sometimes, especially when I am titrating up.

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              #81
              TimberTim is in the House!

              No worries.

              The unexamined life is not worth living

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                #82
                TimberTim is in the House!

                sorry, tim. i'll keep my gutter talk to my own thread (and mabye a couple of others'). but i'll leave it out of yours. please forgive.

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                  #83
                  TimberTim is in the House!

                  Morning, Tim. There is often frank and bawdy discussion in these here threads. Unfortunately it's hard to filter, sometimes. I hope your wish will be respected.

                  That said, there are some threads where you will be really appalled and uncomfortable.

                  Bac to the point. How did you sleep?

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                    #84
                    TimberTim is in the House!

                    Ne/Neva Eva;1129664 wrote: Morning, Tim. Hope you slept well! There will be a time, and soon, I suspect that you will lament that you have to sleep at all. And tomorrow (which is today now) may be better than yesterday... I'll wait to hear.

                    But the tomorrows that follow? Yowza, Tim. They rock. I'm really glad you're a part of it for me.

                    xxoo, my friend,
                    Ne
                    Yo, NE.

                    Feel pretty good today. I had that frickin' bac brain mind trip this morning where I would have sworn it was 6:30 am only to find out when I turned on the coffee machine that it was 5:30am. Arrgh. Well, I did sleep well between 11:30pm and 5:30 am. So, 6 hours is pretty good, eh? (that's a Minnesota term, and certainly a Canadian term; sounds like "A". I guess because the Stanley Cup is on I find myself using it more often)

                    Any who...I forgot where I was....Oh yeah (bac brain), I did 300mg again yesterday. I need to test myself today to see if I switched. I stopped by a gas station yesterday to buy a diet coke, and I stopped by the beer section to see if I had any cravings. Nothing! But then, I'm not a beer guy much. You all should know that I'm a red wine guy. Or I used to be... and it large quantities. When I was bad, I used to by those cheap 1.5 liter bottles that cost about $6. Of course, I would get the one with the highest alcohol content. At that point, before bac and several years ago, it wasn't even about the taste; it was all about the drunk.

                    So, today I may see how I may see how I feel about buying some wine (man, I'm all over the place with my thoughts...bac brain. 8:30mg and I have already pounded 80mg)

                    To rap this up before I sound like a rambling idiot; I slept well, I need to test my desire for wine, and I'm going for 300mg for the 3rd day in a row.
                    Over and out.

                    ps: Sorry again to you guys for being a bit cranky. I guess I'd like to keep this a bit more...clean?

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                      #85
                      TimberTim is in the House!

                      no worries tim. i get it.

                      wow, 300! walking right up to the booze and feeling nothing sounds good to me! something is working, huh? beer, wine, whatever it was, for people like us i think it's always mostly about the alcohol.

                      don't worry about the 'rambling idiot' factor; as you can see, you'd be in good company here. and, btw, you don't sound rambling or idiotic. keep sharing.

                      i'm happy to hear about your good night's sleep.
                      zzzzz

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                        #86
                        TimberTim is in the House!

                        Morning Tim

                        I haven't gone back over your thread in detail but I do remember you asking at some point how to recognise the switch. I would say that what you are experiencing sounds pretty much like it!

                        How many days have you had AF or was that the first one yesterday? By all means 'test yourself' on the wine but remember there are more reasons to drink than just craving. Habit, triggers and habit, bloody mindedness and habit are some. Baclofen gives you back the power to make a sensible, logical decision about alcohol but the switch is not about feeling repulsed by alcohol though that can happen at6 very high doses. If you decide not to drink today, I think that that decision will become easier as your brain catches up with the 300mg that you've been taking.

                        Congratulations for where you've got to atm and lets hope this is the point of no return!
                        Started Baclofen 3/9/10 Hit my switch at 250mg on 21/11/10 Present maintenance dose of 50mg : started drinking after 1 year, upped dose to 80mg and stopped: Tapered to 30mg, started 6 months of drinking, upped dose to 240mg to stop 12/7/12

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                          #87
                          TimberTim is in the House!

                          Hey....I think I switched. I'm pretty sure of it, in fact.

                          After 3 days of choking down 300mg, I'm pretty sure that my feelings toward alcohol are...well I don't have any feelings for it anymore.

                          That's pretty amazing!

                          Okay everyone: What now?
                          mgHow do I get down from here?

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                            #88
                            TimberTim is in the House!

                            good news, tim! i'll leave it to the veterans to help you with the titration down, and i'll be keeping up with it cause i will need to know this too someday, soon i hope.

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                              #89
                              TimberTim is in the House!

                              RudyB;1129990 wrote: good news, tim! i'll leave it to the veterans to help you with the titration down, and i'll be keeping up with it cause i will need to know this too someday, soon i hope.
                              Thank you! Kind of anticlimactic really. The sleep has made all the difference. 300mg was a piece of cake compared to where I was last week.

                              Shouldn't you be sleeping?

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                                #90
                                TimberTim is in the House!

                                Morning, Tim!

                                WOOOOOHOOOOOOOO! That's fantastic news.

                                Tapering down? hmmmm. Cautiously and with forethought and a plan. Trust those of us that have gone down, only to have to go up again. It's only slightly less onerous the second time around.

                                If 300mg/day isn't giving you any real problems, why not stay there for a few? Days...Weeks... I can't say for sure, because now you've joined the group that is uncharted territory. Literally uncharted. What we have records of, in abundance, are people who went down too much or too quickly and relapsed.

                                I'm taking that anecdotal evidence to heart, myself. I'm currently staying at 220-200mg, down from 340mg, up from ~100mg, where I went post-indifference.

                                If 300mg is simply too much, the current suggestion in the French forum, last I heard, was to go down 10mg/week. This is the method I'll use when I go down. Some around here suggest staying at the "switch-dose" forever. :H That's just funny. At least to me.

                                Bottom line? The medicine is there when you need it. If you go down too far, you can go bac up. Simple solution for a complex problem.

                                Congrats, Tim. And good job! You rock!

                                L, Karen

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