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    #31
    Does Baclofen‏ work on Heroin and Crack addiction - in particular CRAVINGS

    hmmm. Yes. Well, I enjoy/employ good nutrition, exercise and all the rest. The only thing that did anything to resolve my addiction was a little medicine called baclofen.

    I hope you're still around, Rich, and that the suggestions to read around did not indicate that you shouldn't continue to post and ask questions.

    I guess I did indicate that, on some level, didn't I? good intentions pave annoying roads...

    :l
    Ne

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      #32
      Does Baclofen‏ work on Heroin and Crack addiction - in particular CRAVINGS

      Theodore;1129068 wrote: In the meantime you may want to try a synergsitic (combined) program of yoga, exercise, diet and acupuncture, if you can afford it. These methods would probably have proved next to useless while you were using, but you may find they bring you at least some relief now your are clean. I met a former heroin addict in an alleyway of Montreal, and he said exactly that- he also seemed very happy and healthy, despite the alleway.
      Theodore, enough already. The joke is starting to wear a little thin.

      The unexamined life is not worth living

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        #33
        Does Baclofen‏ work on Heroin and Crack addiction - in particular CRAVINGS

        Rich,

        Let us know how you are doing!!!

        Please keep posting and asking questions~~~

        We are here for you!
        "What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us." Ralph Waldo Emerson

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          #34
          Does Baclofen‏ work on Heroin and Crack addiction - in particular CRAVINGS

          Welcome

          You certainly do ask a lot of questions! If you search through the threads here you will find most of the answers you need. You also probably should get the book End of My Addiction, By the doctor who stirred all the interest in baclofen as a treatment.

          It sounds to me that you are concerned about safety and probably would prefer to get treatment officially. In that case, I suggest you consider the generic naltrexone. Naltrexone is an approved treatment for opioid abuse and alcoholism. It's cheap as a pill. In the UK, you can also get implants of it. That takes your choice away so you won't skip your pills and slip. From what I read, this won't take your craving away, but if you do mess up and give in to your cravings, you will not be able to get high. So in your vulnerable state, just out of prison, this I think would be very good for you maybe to try this for 3-6 months. A shot of naltrexone is also now available and it's called Vivitrol. This would be a good option for you to consider if your main goal is to not screw up your life again and if you would prefer to have professionals manage this and not pay too much for it.

          Good luck,
          Nancy

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            #35
            Does Baclofen‏ work on Heroin and Crack addiction - in particular CRAVINGS

            nancy;1129272 wrote: You certainly do ask a lot of questions! If you search through the threads here you will find most of the answers you need. You also probably should get the book End of My Addiction, By the doctor who stirred all the interest in baclofen as a treatment.

            It sounds to me that you are concerned about safety and probably would prefer to get treatment officially. In that case, I suggest you consider the generic naltrexone. Naltrexone is an approved treatment for opioid abuse and alcoholism. It's cheap as a pill. In the UK, you can also get implants of it. That takes your choice away so you won't skip your pills and slip. From what I read, this won't take your craving away, but if you do mess up and give in to your cravings, you will not be able to get high. So in your vulnerable state, just out of prison, this I think would be very good for you maybe to try this for 3-6 months. A shot of naltrexone is also now available and it's called Vivitrol. This would be a good option for you to consider if your main goal is to not screw up your life again and if you would prefer to have professionals manage this and not pay too much for it.

            Good luck,
            Nancy
            Nancy

            Good post but I'm afraid he's already ruled out Naltrexone after I referred to it earlier in the thread. He posted knows other addicts use it, but that they still suffered from terrible cravings - and he's looking for something to prevent the cravings in the first place. Hence interest in Baclofen. By the way Naltrexone doesn't appear licenced for use with Alcohol in the UK (or so I'm being told!), much to my annoyance - but that's an aside!

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              #36
              Does Baclofen‏ work on Heroin and Crack addiction - in particular CRAVINGS

              Rich, I read your posts and know right where you are coming from. I am a recovering crack smoker and I feel your frustration. Only someone who has truly experienced the cravings can understand what an overwhelming pull it can be.

              Baclofen definitely works on crack cravings. The video that Murph posted comes from a research center at the Univerisity of Pennsylvania. Those dramatic results in the video were achieved on 60 mgs per day.

              I have been on bac for six months, and been clean the whole time. I went the route of the alcoholics and went up to 280 mgs per day. I don't think I ever hit the switch like the alkies, but my cravings were greatly reduced.

              Last month I went to Mexico and took Ibogaine. It completely erased whatever cravings remained. This would have an added bonus for you. Ibogaine works wonders on the opiate addict. I under went the treatment with a heroin addict who was shooting up for 10 years. He simply could not bear the pain of withdrawal. After taking Ibogaine, he was completely detoxed and was swimming in the Pacific Ocean 48 hours later.

              If you ever want to talk, or have any questions, PM me and I will give you my e-mail address. I will help you anyway I can. My prayers are with you.
              Look at a stone cutter hammering away at his rock, perhaps a hundred times without as much as a crack showing in it. Yet at the hundred-and-first blow it will split in two, and I know it was not the last blow that did it, but all that had gone before.
              - Jacob August Riis

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                #37
                Does Baclofen‏ work on Heroin and Crack addiction - in particular CRAVINGS

                BTW ibogaine is legal in the UK. Legal to possess, but not supply. However, there are some good people here who have experience of this drug, who will help you if you decide to take that path.

                The unexamined life is not worth living

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                  #38
                  Does Baclofen‏ work on Heroin and Crack addiction - in particular CRAVINGS

                  Is Rich gone???

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                    #39
                    Does Baclofen‏ work on Heroin and Crack addiction - in particular CRAVINGS

                    Hopefull he wasn't put off by the idiotic suggestions of the new kid.

                    The unexamined life is not worth living

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                      #40
                      Does Baclofen‏ work on Heroin and Crack addiction - in particular CRAVINGS

                      or the guy who can't resist a good bollocks jokes. or the know it all (Ne) or the thought of joining such a group as we.

                      Nah. He's here. Just noticed him. (I have my ways, Rich! It's called the active users list on the main forum page. and there you were! yay!) and no, we're not always quite so insistent, and no we're not a cult. We just like it here. :h
                      Fair warning.

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                        #41
                        Does Baclofen‏ work on Heroin and Crack addiction - in particular CRAVINGS

                        yeah, i'm back, spent yesterday at a reggae all day event that my mates put on. My dads been hogging the computer this morning, i cant exactly kick him off as it is his... despite how much i wanted to!
                        I spoke via email to that professor Chick in Edinburgh, he doesnt seem to know how useful Baclofen would be to me.
                        Cant see that link that was mentioned regarding Murphys video?
                        Interesting comments from all though, thank you.
                        The Ibogaine treatment, how does it actually work? Whats it like? I heard that it made u puke n shit yourself and trip so hard that after three days of it you never want to take another drug again!

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                          #42
                          Does Baclofen‏ work on Heroin and Crack addiction - in particular CRAVINGS

                          Ibogaine.co.uk

                          Chick doesn't think much of bac. He doesn't even agree with high dose baclofen for alcoholism. 'Nuff said.

                          The unexamined life is not worth living

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                            #43
                            Does Baclofen‏ work on Heroin and Crack addiction - in particular CRAVINGS

                            Murph, thanks for the info on Ibogaine being legal in the UK. That is good to know!

                            Rich, here is a post I put up shortly after doing it - The Trip of a Lifetime

                            If you can find out where to get it, you will never hold another crack pipe again. And baclofen is great for the cravings too.
                            Look at a stone cutter hammering away at his rock, perhaps a hundred times without as much as a crack showing in it. Yet at the hundred-and-first blow it will split in two, and I know it was not the last blow that did it, but all that had gone before.
                            - Jacob August Riis

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                              #44
                              Does Baclofen‏ work on Heroin and Crack addiction - in particular CRAVINGS

                              No. He asbsoutelty hates the stuff and wants us all to die. That's why he precribes it to most of his new patients, reguarly advices Gps on its use, and has tried, on seveal occasions to start a trial to demostrate its effectivity.

                              Oh, and don't let get started on that new that new kid- couldn't agree more. He is absoltely fulll of shit and probably has problems proccessing infromation and understanding the severity of alcohol and drug addiction. It's all a game to him. In this case, his suggestion just happens to consicide with the advice outlined in a recent World Health Organisation report, written by an expert in the area from UCLA. But that was begginers luck I suspect. Thank god there are more open minded and considerate people around here.

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                                #45
                                Does Baclofen‏ work on Heroin and Crack addiction - in particular CRAVINGS

                                Good luck with the Baclofen rich.

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