Does Baclofen‏ work on Heroin and Crack addiction - in particular CRAVINGS

[tiptronic_ct]

Does Baclofen work on Heroin and Crack addiction - in particular CRAVINGS

Good luck, Rich!

Good avice from Iggy and as NE said, keep posting about your progress and how you're experiencing it.

[bleep]

Does Baclofen work on Heroin and Crack addiction - in particular CRAVINGS

Good news Rich. Really hope it works out for you. This doctor sounds like a rare find, especially in the UK.

[RevoltingRich]

Does Baclofen work on Heroin and Crack addiction - in particular CRAVINGS

meant to say 60mgs after about 7days

[RevoltingRich]

Does Baclofen work on Heroin and Crack addiction - in particular CRAVINGS

dosage

Hi all,
up to 60ml now, feel like i'm made of jelly, must be the muscle relaxant thing, also getting quite lethargic and yesterday i even fell asleep a couple of times during the day.
no head exploding feelings yet Bleep!
more like head conking out
I guess this is pretty normal according to the side effects
going to the docs thursday and will try and get the dose put up.
think i'm craving a bit less and smoking less cigs, but definately still getting some cravings, used a bit over the weekend... :-(
cheers
rich

[bleep]

Does Baclofen work on Heroin and Crack addiction - in particular CRAVINGS

It's not head exploding feelings you have to watch out for, it's your brain melting that gets you.

I smoked like a chimney on baclofen, then I stopped, and it even helped the cravings there. Now I smoke like a chimney again. I don't crave, but there's not much time in the day to get a good craving going on with 40 smokes!

And who knows, maybe you are actually made out of jelly?

[RevoltingRich]

Does Baclofen work on Heroin and Crack addiction - in particular CRAVINGS

saw my doc on thursday and he has said i can go up to 100ml per day and to just titrate up as i feel necessary! presently on 70ml, going up 10ml per day.
Gave me a NHS prescription for 200tablets plus a re-ordering thing so i can just get em from the pharmacy as and when i need them. (although looking at it more closely it looks like that might be limited to once a month).
So I guess that leaves me 8/11 days per month to find the other 100 tablets plus the extra i will probly need to reach my 'switch'.
Does anyone have any particular experience regarding what dosage crack and heroin addicts are hitting their switch? I'm not currently physically addicted to the smack, but i am using both about two or three times a week - ! Playing with fire... :-(
Just be good to know how far I am likely to have to take this.
If anyone needs a NHS doctor to prescribe baclofen to them I am happy to help and recommend mine, but i think you have to have a local address.... Farnham, Surrey
Going through a weird cycle of elation and then lethargy. But going to the gym every morning to force through it. Know what that guy means on the other thread reg horniness, thought that it was just due to being clean(ish) and out of prison, but I started getting uncontrollable hard-on in the gym this morning! had to lie down and do some dorsal raises which was uncomfortable but at least it hid the 'tent' - coulda done 'plank' with no hands! havent had that kinda strong a reaction to lycra clad lovelies since I was a teenager!

[BacloTim]

Does Baclofen work on Heroin and Crack addiction - in particular CRAVINGS

Hey Rich,
Not sure how I missed this thread but I'm glad I read it. I too am a (sort of) ex heroin addict who used it along with crack, wasn't really addicted to that though, they just went nice together. I say "sort of" because I am just not in an area with some good cheap smack and on probation so using alcohol only. That's pretty good that your not physically addicted but you are playing with fire for sure! I guess you don't use 2 days in a row or something to hold off the dope sickness creeping in(it takes me only2-3 days of use).

Anyway I think we are sort of experiments for Baclofen on all addictions, you are more of one because you are currently using those substances and can see what it changes by taking this.
I was on methadone for a number of years and did ok on that as well but I think this stuff works totally different and is not just a replacement/maintenance drug like methadone.

Looking forward to seeing your progress!

[RevoltingRich]

Does Baclofen work on Heroin and Crack addiction - in particular CRAVINGS

yeah, I'm on probation too, but amazingly they arent drug testing me! even though it is well documented throughout all my records that my offending is all drug related! Think that someone somewhere didnt tick the right boxes for the right type of probation. But i dont mind as I dont want to get recalled back to prison or put on a more intensive probation due to a part time habit that will hopefully stop soon anyway.
Yeah I was on the green juice too on and off over the years. we can get it for free over here so it was always useful to stop myself going too 'desperado' and really doing something crazy. Detoxed off the methadone and benzos whilst in prison.
I didnt know there was anywhere left on the planet where you couldnt get smack? apart from isolated hamlets etc. I've always managed to find it on my travels around the Spain, former Yugoslavian countries and the UK in pretty much every little town and city.

[tiptronic_ct]

Does Baclofen work on Heroin and Crack addiction - in particular CRAVINGS

RevoltingRich;1136225 wrote: Does anyone have any particular experience regarding what dosage crack and heroin addicts are hitting their switch? I'm not currently physically addicted to the smack, but i am using both about two or three times a week - ! Playing with fire... :-(
Just be good to know how far I am likely to have to take this.

Have you had a look at the Baclofen Forum? They have sections for different addictions and conditions for which bac might be helpful.

Have a look at this thread in particular: How Baclofen took all my addictions away : Addiction

In case someone else posted this info earlier in this thread, :new:

[bleep]

Does Baclofen work on Heroin and Crack addiction - in particular CRAVINGS

Hey Rich,

Glad to hear you're still ploughing through with this. I think you'll find that indifference, which is what we are all after, is the same, whether it be booze, crack or aspirin that we are seeking relief for. It's the addictive pathway that baclofen is erasing, as such, it's an individual effect. You can only hope that yours is low.

How are you finding it so far? I think everyone is pretty interested in your progress, you are one of the few amongst us who isn't just a pisshead.

[RevoltingRich]

Does Baclofen work on Heroin and Crack addiction - in particular CRAVINGS

I'm ok, apart from alot of lethargy.
Started nodding off at work again yesterday afternoon, which was embarassing. really uncontrollable nodding. worried what they will think.
Going through a weird cycle of lots of energy and enthusiasm through to lethargic. Some nights I dont really sleep cos Im so full of energy, other days I struggle to get up.
Have had some dizziness and slightly unbalanced wobble, and sometimes feel a little thick.
Generally its not too much to bear, although the lethargy is annoying and the nodding at work is something I really have to keep in check.
although its hard to know whether its the baclofen or the occasional using that is causing the above effects (or more likely, a combination of the two).
Does anyone think that going up 10ml per day is too much? could i go up more?

[bleep]

Does Baclofen work on Heroin and Crack addiction - in particular CRAVINGS

What I would do is take a break between going up, but go up by more than 10mg's at a time. Maybe 30mg's every few days. This will give the baclofen time to soak into your brain, and still allows you to go up pretty quickly.

The nodding off can be painful, especially if you are stuck behind a desk. A couple of minutes of activity helps, but you can only hop off to the loo so often before it looks weird! A lot of people have used Piracetam to help with this, apparently it works a treat.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Does Baclofen work on Heroin and Crack addiction - in particular CRAVINGS

bleep;1136655 wrote: What I would do is take a break between going up, but go up by more than 10mg's at a time. Maybe 30mg's every few days. This will give the baclofen time to soak into your brain, and still allows you to go up pretty quickly.

The nodding off can be painful, especially if you are stuck behind a desk. A couple of minutes of activity helps, but you can only hop off to the loo so often before it looks weird! A lot of people have used Piracetam to help with this, apparently it works a treat.

What he said.

I am on a mission to figure out how to deal with the nodding off when I'm sitting very still in a lecture that is as boring as watching golf. I don't know how much of it is bac-related for me, anymore, but the bac can't be helping!

Piracetam is not in the cards for me, atm, so I'm looking for other solutions. Inordinate amounts of coffee helps, a lot more than you would think. Still. Suggestions?

[BacloTim]

Does Baclofen work on Heroin and Crack addiction - in particular CRAVINGS

RevoltingRich;1136634 wrote:
the nodding at work is something I really have to keep in check.
although its hard to know whether its the baclofen or the occasional using that is causing the above effects (or more likely, a combination of the two).

I'm not using heroin right now but am using another opiate that is very mild and bac and opiates really combine to make you nod/tired I noticed. I guess since it's a GABA agonist like the benzos are they they sort of have that same potentiating effect together. Strangely I used to mix benzos and heroin/methadone for that exact effect (very deadly btw i'm sure you know that already) but now I don't enjoy nodding out so much.

Also I don't think many people know that the nod is a easy sign that someone is using heroin. Unless they know your history I bet they don't think that.

[RevoltingRich]

Does Baclofen work on Heroin and Crack addiction - in particular CRAVINGS

Up to 90ml now, had another Monday off of work again this week(yesterday) due to me being so fucking knackered. Slept all day!
Today I Nodded a little bit today after lunch, but drank a couple of coffees and got through it ok.
Been having some weird dreams myself. I dreamt I was looking for a place to live in a really ancient and run down spainish city which was called Santiago in my dream. Very bizarree and haunting. Will look it up.