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    #16
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    Pete

    If the doc won't go high dose (and very rarely will they) then you'll just have to supplement the quantity he lets you have, by buying it online. Most people do that and without any problems.

    As a matter of interest, the "WA" in your location is that Washington, Western Australia or somewhere completely different?

    The unexamined life is not worth living

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      #17
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      Well, I just got back from the Dr. and from the pharmacy. Initially he had some doubts about the lack of studies on baclofen, and was leaning more towards naltrexone or campral, but I walked out with a script for baclofen, and he'll take me up to 120mg/day for now. So I'm feeling really optimistic! I'm starting out at 15 mg/day and increasing by 15 mg every 3 days.

      So now I'm just waiting for it to kick in...
      Knowledge of what is possible is the beginning of happiness.
      George Santayana

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        #18
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        Oh and Murphy - The WA stands for Washington. We all know there's no world outside of the U.S.
        Knowledge of what is possible is the beginning of happiness.
        George Santayana

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          #19
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          WOOOHOOOO! Pete!

          That's great. Did you know your doc beforehand or is this a new doc? And what'd you do? I ask because there are a lot of us who have a really difficult time with that situation.

          And, um, Murphy was just being silly, I'm sure. Western Australia? Who ever heard of that?

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            #20
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            Thanks Neva!

            That was my first time meeting that doctor. I just called a bunch of local addiction specialists and asked them if they were familiar with baclofen in the context of addiction, and I got lucky

            So about 45 minutes after I popped the 5mg, I got really tired for a little bit, but that passed in about 20 mins. I had one leftover beer in my fridge from last night, and it was starting to call to me, so I opened it and took a couple sips. However, after I opened it, it seemed to lose its appeal, and is now just sitting next to me. If that's the baclofen talking, then I'm really impressed, however I'm sure it's all just in my head.
            Knowledge of what is possible is the beginning of happiness.
            George Santayana

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              #21
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              Hi Pete,

              Congrats on getting the bac, hope its the answer for you :-) im on nal and campral but the more i read i think bac might be the way to go.

              And by the way, i'm from Western Australia!!!!

              All the best.

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                #22
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                Whatever it is Timpete, run with it. There have been accounts of people reaching indifference really low. Ya' never know, brother. And there are plenty of people who take it and never drink again. Wish that'd been my story!

                Anyhoo. After you've been around for awhile and you figure out I'm not particularly nuts, would you pm me the name of your doc for my file? Or you could put it here, if you're comfortable with that:

                https://www.mywayout.org/community/f2...ion-47247.html

                You don't have to put her/his number. Just the lowdown in case anyone else comes along from WA. State. lol

                :l Pete. Looking forward to hearing all about it!
                Ne

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                  #23
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                  Jo80;1134050 wrote: And by the way, i'm from Western Australia!!!!
                  :blush:

                  Sorry, mate. You know I was kidding right? I know where Western Australia is. Near Madagascar, right? It is on the Risk board anyway...

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                    #24
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                    Good result there! If he's prepared to do 120mg's straight off the bat, he's likely convinceable for a little higher, I would think, especially if you are seeing results. As Ne says, people have seen results at very low doses, so you never know.

                    Even if 120mg's is his limit, it's a great start to the show.

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                      #25
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                      Ne/Neva Eva;1134055 wrote: :blush:

                      Near Madagascar, right? It is on the Risk board anyway...
                      Not sure about that, i have heard of Washington though...all my geographical knowledge comes from Alex Trebek!!!!

                      If you do ever come accross anyone looking for an open minded doc in my WA I have a great recommendation.

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                        #26
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                        SlipperyPete;1134025 wrote: Well, I just got back from the Dr. and from the pharmacy. Initially he had some doubts about the lack of studies on baclofen, and was leaning more towards naltrexone or campral, but I walked out with a script for baclofen, and he'll take me up to 120mg/day for now. So I'm feeling really optimistic! I'm starting out at 15 mg/day and increasing by 15 mg every 3 days.

                        So now I'm just waiting for it to kick in...
                        Great news Pete. When you say "120mg/day for now", does that mean he may be willing to go higher later on? Was that discussed at all? If he's willing to go to 120 it's a really good sign. It means that he's not feeling constrained by the usual prescribing regulations. Even if he won't go higher, you can always get further supplies on your own.

                        15/day and 15 increase every 3 days is a fairly fast titration. Who came up with that? You or him? I'm not saying it's too fast (I went much faster as did a lot of other people here), but it may increase the chances of some minor side effects such as daytime somnolence, fuzzy headedness, testicle loss (you were warned that sometimes baclofen makes your testicles drop off right?).

                        Anyway, great news mate.

                        BTW, which Washington? The city where half the population are drug dealing mudery types (and the other half aren't politicians) or the boring, cold, wet state?
                        Oh I love talking shit about things I know nothing.

                        The unexamined life is not worth living

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                          #27
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                          Murphyx;1134070 wrote: Great news Pete. When you say "120mg/day for now", does that mean he may be willing to go higher later on? Was that discussed at all? If he's willing to go to 120 it's a really good sign. It means that he's not feeling constrained by the usual prescribing regulations. Even if he won't go higher, you can always get further supplies on your own.

                          15/day and 15 increase every 3 days is a fairly fast titration. Who came up with that? You or him? I'm not saying it's too fast (I went much faster as did a lot of other people here), but it may increase the chances of some minor side effects such as daytime somnolence, fuzzy headedness, testicle loss (you were warned that sometimes baclofen makes your testicles drop off right?).

                          Anyway, great news mate.

                          BTW, which Washington? The city where half the population are drug dealing mudery types (and the other half aren't politicians) or the boring, cold, wet state?
                          Oh I love talking shit about things I know nothing.
                          I'm from the boring, cold, wet Washington. Earlier today I wanted to go outside because I was bored, but when I went out it was too cold, and was just about to rain. Man I hate it here.

                          I say 120mg for now because he wasn't sure what the normal safe limit or whatever is, but he thought it was 120, and I'm fairly confident that if I'm getting a lot of progress he will increase that ceiling. He came up with the titration schedule, which works for me. I wanted to do it fast and hard anyways.

                          And I'm glad FINALLY I'll have some relief from all my extra testicles!
                          Knowledge of what is possible is the beginning of happiness.
                          George Santayana

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                            #28
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                            That's great news. The testicle bit, I mean. Other good news is that the doc seems to play a little fast and loose. The recommended safe limit is 80mg's, but what that's based on is anybody's guess. If he fired from the hip like that, he's bound to go higher.

                            And there's nothing wrong with that titration in the beginning. I kinda like it. What you do want to do a little later, maybe once you get around 200mg's (if necessary) is start giving yourself about 5 days at each level. This is about how long it takes the increase to seep into your brain, so any quicker is pointless. What you can do to counter this is go up by 25mg's at a time, so your speed of titration isn't really affected.

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                              #29
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                              Thanks for all the support guys - every comment is appreciated.

                              Quick update, and this is insane! I'm feeling this is too good to be true, and I'm trying to stay as level-headed and cautious as possible. After I took my 2nd dose today and went to the supermarket, I had a sudden realization that I was more relaxed than normal, which is of course great. But while I'm drinking sake now, (sake it to me baby!) I found a big resistance to drink, and I feel that I'm drinking more out of habit than necessity. This could be psychosomatic, since I've pumped myself up so much for this, but I'm really hoping that it's the real deal. Time will tell. Side note - is it gay to watch The Bachlorette?
                              Knowledge of what is possible is the beginning of happiness.
                              George Santayana

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                                #30
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                                Scratch what I said about your titration being too fast. Bleep is right, every 3 days is fine to begin with. However I would disagree about waiting till you get up to 200 before you swap to every 5 days. I think that should happen at around 100.

                                The resistance to drinking is probably not psychosomatic. Many people get an instant relief of craving. Not complete indifference, but a detectable reduction. You seem like a good fit for bac.

                                RE The Bachelorette: I've never seen it so I can't comment. Oh wait, hang on a minute, the fact that I've never seen it means that it must be gay. It's essential you go and do something manly immediately before you start craving arse. Play Rugby, pick a fight or have raw meaningless sex. Just don't do all three at the same time.

                                The unexamined life is not worth living

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