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    #76
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    Hey guys. So last night I drank about 70% of what I normally drink, and I woke up feeling a little better today. What's interesting is that once I start drinking, I'm not getting that uncomfortable feeling that I NEED to drink more. I didn't even drink enough last night to make myself pass out, which normally would be very nerve wracking. I'm hoping I can get my sleep back on track, because I've always used alcohol as a sleeping aid.
    Murphyx;1135387 wrote: Pete, I think you're pushing it too much. You're an alkie. Alkies get drunk. The bac will do its thing, it won't take long. In the meantime stop beating yourself up for drinking. Soon drunkeness will no longer be an issue. Chillax dude! :H
    Yeah I hear ya man. It's my damn alcoholic mind wanting instant gratification. Ironically, I want the instant gratification of wanting to always not want to be instantly gratified. (Well that made sense in my mind)
    Isolde;1135605 wrote: South FL people are unfortunately notorious for being fair weather fans, but when their teams are winning, they turn out and show support in a BIG way.Yeah definitely. Mark Cuban, the owner of the Mavs took a shot at the Miami fans after the Mavs won. But he talks a LOT
    BacloTim;1135701 wrote:





    Oh and I also wanted to add that I think our "group" Is you Pete, AverageJoe, and Me. Is there anyone i'm missing that started within 2 weeks of each other? I love reading everyone's threads but I think they are far ahead of us in healing so I don't relate just yet. We'll get there though!
    Yeah I think you nailed it. Now we just gotta come up with a sweet name for our crew

    RudyB;1135745 wrote:
    howdy folks.

    i'm worried about average joe. hope you're okay, dude! please check in. it is good to have a posse w whom you can connect and share the ride up, for sure.
    Yeah Joe, we need you for crew name brainstorming!

    Wow I just realized I started every sentence almost with Yeah :goodjob:
    Knowledge of what is possible is the beginning of happiness.
    George Santayana

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      #77
      Seeing the doc tomorrow

      yeah, man! go hockey!

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        #78
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        I'm worried about joe/craig as well. I was thinking about posting on his thread but don't want to be too pushy. He was posting like mad for a bit and then disappeared. He could just be busy with life and doing well so we never know.

        Oh and Isolde. I agree with the people living in SFL being totally self absorbed. I did meet some cool people(and as you said they were long timers there) but I was there to make money so dealt with those business types who think they run the world or something. I'm sure you know the type I'm talking about. I may go back down there since I have a lot of good business connections there and I loved the great sushi joints too! If I had to go there again I would just get a week long hotel and do the work and eat the great food and then come back home. SFL is a GREAT place to make money that is for sure!
        Check out my Baclofen journey at http://baclofen4addiction.blogspot.com

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          #79
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          nothin pushy about posting on someone's thread. shows that you care. i'm guessing he's not doing well, based on his last posts. whenever someone disappears i worry. but we all have our own paths to walk, huh?

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            #80
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            RudyB;1135856 wrote: nothin pushy about posting on someone's thread. shows that you care. i'm guessing he's not doing well, based on his last posts. whenever someone disappears i worry. but we all have our own paths to walk, huh?
            The Matrix is one of my favorite movies, and I think this quote is very relevant here:
            "I'm trying to free your mind, Neo. But I can only show you the door. You're the one that has to walk through it."

            I know it seems sad to be proud of this, but I was actually able to carry on a conversation today with a complete stranger. Normally I'd be too anxious to think...baclowhat!
            Knowledge of what is possible is the beginning of happiness.
            George Santayana

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              #81
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              The reason you're so friendly with strangers, and will probably soon be grinning from ear to ear is that baclofen promotes the production of oxytocin, otherwise known as the love-hormone. It's a fantastic feeling, sometimes you walk around feeling like you are coming down off a good E. I only got mine quite a bit higher, so you're lucky! Enjoy it!

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                #82
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                Bleep, in your experience, how long has that lovey feeling lasted? I ask this because I am rather anti-social at the moment, and I'm hoping I'll get lasting effects regarding feelings for other human beings.
                Knowledge of what is possible is the beginning of happiness.
                George Santayana

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                  #83
                  Seeing the doc tomorrow

                  Hey guys -

                  Just wanted to throw out a quick update. Today is day 7, and I'm increasing to 45 mg's per day today. Before bac, I had been been drinking 21 UK units of alcohol per night. The first night on bac I drank the same amount, but after that I had cut it down to 15.7 units per night. Last night was my best, drinking 14.3 units. So my drinking is down by 1/3. I almost made it AF last night, but I couldn't sleep, so I did what I always do to pass out.

                  My thinking on AL is changing a bit. When I think of actually drinking it, I feel a little repulsed. Beer or liquor just sounds disgusting, taste wise, but it seems to be getting me a little higher when I'm drunk. I don't think that'll be a problem though, because it still feels more appealing to try to be AF. I just gotta break the habit and find a way to fall asleep at night.

                  No bad SE's really, just some drowsiness and I'm having a harder time typing the right words when I write. I guess that's just general fogginess. And today at the gym I had a couple of random painful leg cramps, which I never get.

                  I'm also feeling a little less creative, but I think that'll pass. I'm trying to find a way to make this post interesting, but I can't for the life of me think of any way to add some humor at the moment haha.

                  Overall though I'm very pleased with the results I've gotten from bac.
                  Knowledge of what is possible is the beginning of happiness.
                  George Santayana

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                    #84
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                    how great, pete! sounds like bac is working its magic on you already. phew, huh?

                    i'm sure you're aware of the myriad ways to get to sleep. why not explore some of those? if you want to avoid more chemicals, you could try melatonin (a hormone? very natural), or valerian (an herb), or chammomile tea. i have found that if i work out later in the day, it can be very hard to get to sleep. food for thought.

                    stay strong, soldier!

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                      #85
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                      It's looking good Pete!

                      Don't worry about trying to make your updates any more interesting. The update itself is what counts. Besides, considering the dreadful, dreary, soul-sucking, fun-desert you live in, no one will expect interesting.

                      And wtf is that emoticon? A ghost? A sheep?

                      The unexamined life is not worth living

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                        #86
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                        Hey, sorry Pete, somehow missed your previous post. The feeling comes and goes, in my experience. No real telling when it'll be around or not. The thing is, is to just take whatever comes. Enjoy the good SE's, put up with the not so good ones.

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                          #87
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                          Thanks guys.

                          Rudy, there was something I saw at Walgreen's that interested me that I might get. It had valerian root, melatonin, and 1 other thing that helped you sleep.

                          And Murph, first off, you're the one that lives in the desert, and 2nd, that emoticon is something I made myself. I call it "The Murphy"
                          Knowledge of what is possible is the beginning of happiness.
                          George Santayana

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                            #88
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                            Murphyx;1137495 wrote:

                            And wtf is that emoticon? A ghost? A sheep?
                            Looks like the Michelin Man and the Stay Puft Marshmallow man from Ghostbusters had a baby! :H

                            And Pete, congrats! It sounds like you are so far doing really well at a low level of bac! I didn't get the feeling of alcohol sounding somewhat disgusting to me until much higher.

                            After you switch, you can kind of play around with your dose to optimize the good SEs. That's what I do, and it's why I've been grinning from ear to ear lately and chatting up strangers (completely our of my pre-baclofen character). Sometimes it seems like it doesn't matter if I go up or down, but that it's just the change of dose that makes it kick in. Bac's so fickle though. 120mgs for me at one point was very easy and I seriously felt like I was rolling for about 2 weeks straight. The next time I stayed at 120 for awhile, it felt like I was on 160mgs - I was having a terrible time sleeping, I was grinding my teeth like a mofo and feeling anxious a lot, so I ended up titrating back down. Anyway, the good thing about bac is that it's customizable and adjustable. You don't build up a tolerance, it doesn't just stop working, etc. There's room for trial and error.
                            Better Living Through Chemistry

                            Switched at 180mgs of Baclofen on 1/31/11, and again on 10/8/11 at 200mgs.

                            Could've been a swan on a glassy lake, could've been a gull in a clipper's wake. Could've been a ladybug on a windchime, but she was born a dragonfly.
                            ~Clutch

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                              #89
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                              yeah, petey, try that walgreens stuff. can't hurt.

                              and murph, i think it's an unshaved sheep ghost. good work w your computer skills, pete. keep 'em coming. maybe one day i'll learn how to do quotes and post you tube videos...

                              keep posting, it's never boring.

                              rb

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                                #90
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                                RudyB;1137568 wrote: good work w your computer skills, pete. keep 'em coming. maybe one day i'll learn how to do quotes and post you tube videos...
                                Don't tell Murph, but I didn't actually make that sheep ghost.

                                And let's not go crazy with the youtube videos. First things first, finding that shift key
                                Knowledge of what is possible is the beginning of happiness.
                                George Santayana

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