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[Murphyx]

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Pete, so you actually like yourself now, huh? About fucking time dude! You're really likeable; I've liked you since you first posted. You're really funny; the funniest person on this site. Funnier than me you bastard.

At least my knob is much larger than yours could ever be. Hah!

[SlipperyPete]

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LL - It's great to hear you're doing good, too. That gratitude you mentioned is something that I feel is vitally important and something that I want to hold on to all the time forever.

Rudy - Here's a breakdown on my booze intake. When I started, I was able to cut it down by 25%, but it returned to normal levels a week later. Last week, there was a 5 day stretch where I was able to go AF 3 of those days, but have been drinking nightly since then. About 5 days ago, it actually started to worry me. Bleep says it's like the last calls of a dying beast, which I believe is, like everything he says, spot on. I know that if I tried, I could go a night without AL, which is something I couldn't say pre-bac. For me it seems that AL is all or nothing. I get some enjoyment out of drinking, but I mainly drink it as a sleeping pill, and to ensure no withdrawals, or to wake up next to a pasty white man. Drinking wakes me up, and then knocks me out.


As far as what I'm doing differently, sadly, it's not much, besides I've headed back to the gym. This is something that is going to be the greatest challenge for me. My past depression has made me perfectly content(...) in not doing anything. I literally have NO clue what to do with my time, and I certainly seem to have plenty of it these days. I really just don't know what I like. It's hard to imagine many people can relate to what that feels like.

And Murphy, thanks for the kind words dude. Your humor and wit make these boards very enjoyable. Not humour. Humor. I spell it like a normal human being.

Although you're wrong about the size of my member. A recent study in Amsterdam [Citation needed] proved that member size and age are directly correlated. According to its results, your member has receded inside of you, while mine has reached across the ocean to Japan. Their words, not mine.

And you guys will be seeing a lot of me this weekend. I'm stranded in the suburbs dog-sitting at my parent's house with no car.

[RudyB]

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hey pete, good about the gym. i suggest you find something to do that involves people and is physical. you know, running club, bike club, rowing, to name a few. i also think you and everyone should read, you guessed it, 'healing without freud or prozac'. fuckin great shit! you'll have time to visit amazon, sounds like. not to be a pusher or anything. but if you have struggled with depression, anxiety, addiction, anything not fun, you'll find a world of ideas therein.

okay, well i'm off to beddy bye. nite nite.

oh, and power on without the booze!

[bleep]

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That's great news Slippery!

There's 2 things causing it, in my experience. One is that with control over booze looming larger than ever before, you'll start feeling better about yourself, which makes relating to people a much pleasanter experience. The second one, the fun one, is that baclofen causes an increase in oxytocin, also known as the love hormone. Pregnant women get a flood of it right after birth, to assist with the bonding process between mother and child, and you're getting something similar. It's probably why some people report massive horniness as well.

Funnily enough, a chap names Murphy was involved in the testing, and found " Murphy et al. (1987), studying men, found that oxytocin levels were raised throughout sexual arousal and there was no acute increase at orgasm." Curious minds want to know Murph - how did you conduct the experiments?

Take a look, it's fiercely interesting stuff: Oxytocin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Murphyx]

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OK, the Dutch are famous liars, which you'd know if you were even vaguely aware of anything outside of OOOOOO S A, so you can happilly ignore their bullshit, so-called 'research'. The only good thing about the Dutch is the women, they're very tall. Mmmmmmm tall women............................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ....................................sorry, I just needed a few moments alone.

What dose are you on at the mo Pete? I'm sure you must have said but I got distracted by those lying bastard Dutch. Are you still upping it? Your attitude to booze is hugely promising. I'd say you're nearly there.

[SlipperyPete]

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Bleep - ugh, everything you said is wrong. I can't believe how wrong you are towards everything. Wrong, just...wrong. Everything....

Murphy - Thanks for pointing out that article from Wiki. And don't worry, take all the time you need.
Great, well I'm at around 120 mg/day. My doc (who is amazing for prescribing me this) has been wanting me to chill a bit before titrating up. I think I should email him and tell him that I need to move up.. . Just not sure how to word it.


And Dutch? Are they from the west coast or east coast of America?

[bleep]

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How so?

[RudyB]

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oh, slippery, that thing you said about the gym being hardest and depression always kept you from doing things, well, you know, in that book he writes about how people quickly pull themselves out of depression by running a little a few times a week. i bet that the more you go to the gym, the less depression will be an issue.

[SlipperyPete]

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Bleep, I'm kidding you see. Sorry for not being funny.

Rudy - Exercise is amazing. Last week I was stuck with some bad thoughts, went to the gym, and they were gone by the time I left. I will check that book out from the library once I go home.

[RudyB]

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if they don't have it at the libe, buy it!

yeah, the guy says that when people run, their bad thoughts just can't get in. they just can't. there's usually a slight smile on a runner's face, unless s/he is struggling so hard to keep those legs moving, then it's more likely a grimace, which is kind of a smile.

[Cassander]

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SlipperyPete;1148608 wrote: Bleep, I'm kidding you see. Sorry for not being funny.

Rudy - Exercise is amazing. Last week I was stuck with some bad thoughts, went to the gym, and they were gone by the time I left. I will check that book out from the library once I go home.

Rudy and Pete

Two books that have helped me alot with exercise and mental health and also in figuring out how to incorporate exercise into my daily routine are:

Spark, by Dr John Ratey
Younger Next Year, by Crowley and Lodge

I can't remember how old you guys are but don't be put off by YNY being for retirement. Its really the right way to live our whole lives.

Pete, I am so happy for your progress.

Cassander

[bleep]

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Going to the gym is for me a bad thought. Hard as I try, I'm not getting these endorphins to rush. I'm still convinced the whole thing is a myth created by people who go to the gym. They don't want to suffer alone, so they spin fairy tales of how nice it feels. Much like drug dealers do, in fact.

[Bruunhilde]

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Pete, I so relate to the extra time. Instead of laying around recovering all day from a hangover, I am doing laundry, gardening, chores. It sucks! I need something fun! Luckily next weekend I have plans both days. That means I need to get the plants in the ground and the laundry done and folded today. Mind you, that's about six loads. I found two giant hampers of dirty clothes in my closet when I got sober. WTF? Who has been a lazy ass? I dislike chores sober or hungover, but I sure love the effects of cleanliness.

[SlipperyPete]

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Rudy - I will obtain a copy of that book some way. If you come across a news article about some crazy guy in WA throwing a rolled up ball of McDonald's wrappers through a Barnes & Noble and stealing one book, well, just know it wasn't me!

Cassander - thanks, I will look into those books.

Bleep - what kind of exercise are you doing? I have terrible memories about going jogging randomly 4 years ago, and thinking that this must be what it's like to die from a horrible case of syphillis. However, running while playing sports is much better, because you're not incredibly bored, and your mind can't drift to "this is so godamn boring, why am I doing this, kill me now, please, someone kill me now." However, for me, the absolute best is weight lifting. I'm not sure why this exercise gets me so high, but tricep pulldowns are seriously orgasmic.

B, I agree chores suck and I definitely need something fun, too.

Bruunhilde;1148706 wrote: Pete, I so relate to the extra time. Instead of laying around recovering all day from a hangover, I am doing laundry, gardening, chores. It sucks! I need something fun!

I've made a few posts about gratitude recently. Perhaps instead of thinking that you have to do chores, maybe tell yourself that it's awesome that you can harvest your tomates sober, and can now appreciate the smell of your fabric softener?

I'd completely understand if you tell me it's much easier said than done. The past couple days I've been lifted to cloud nine by a baclofen bubble, so am not really part of this universe at the moment. My thinking towards people has done a complete 180. Instead of thinking that everyone owed me something, I now feel that it's a privilege for me when people share thoughts and opinions. To further drive home how insane I am currently, I felt grateful that my DOG was able to let me get a glimpse of his life for the weekend. My DOG! He's super old and doesn't do much besides lie down all day. I'm losing my mind, but it's awesome.

[RudyB]

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that's so cool, pete!