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[Ne/Neva Eva]

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RudyB;1158411 wrote: they can really color your whole life in a putrid hue. ergh. get rid of her!

I had to quote that because it makes me smile, but I also think it's spot on.

Depression, it seems, is enough of a theme around here that maybe someone should start a thread...

Suddenly sober and then depressed is not unusual in recovery. Overcoming the burden of life on life's terms is something that we all have to face.

What do we know? Exercise. Best way to ward it off and the research shows (I know, but they matter to me) that it's as or more effective than ADs. Are you playing soccer?

Hang in, Pete. It gets better. Quickly.

[RudyB]

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pete! i was just posting on my thread and found myself once again referring to that book, 'healing without freud or prozac'. have you gotten it yet? i bet your stupid roommate would do a double take to see that lying about. well, if she's not TOTALLY stupid she would. anyway, to remind, it's full of inspiring ideas of what to do about the kinds of things you're going through. a really fucking good read!

thinking of you today. hope you're picking yourself up and dusting yourself off. go out and be in the world. romp around with some upbeat people. kick a ball. row a boat. chat up a hot gal in a nice car, impreza or not. feel good. make it a good day.

and please check in when you can. i'm always looking forward to reading your updates.

xo rudy ru

[Murphyx]

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Ne/Neva Eva;1158455 wrote:
Suddenly sober and then depressed is not unusual in recovery. A-FUCKING-MEN to that sister!

Ne/Neva Eva;1158455 wrote: Hang in, Pete. It gets better. Quickly.

Don't know about 'quickly', but you'll work it out Pete.

[Bruunhilde]

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Yeah Pete, don't let the PIA make you feel bad about yourself and your life. Everyone is jobless now and then, and it can be very depressing, not knowing where your next paycheck will come from and for me, why the F was I laid off twice in less than two years, do I suck that much?

Ig (sorry Ig, calling you out again) was struggling with emptiness, after going AF.

Do you have any tryptophan or All-One powder? That can help if you don't want to buy 5-HTP. Also fish oil can help, you have to take 3-4 grams/day for ADD effects.

Give me your mailing address? I'll send some?

[redhead77]

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Maybe tell the PIA to pray for what's truly important in her world...a new place to live. It's hard enough to get sober, by any method, but having the negative energy in your living space, may make it even harder. She is clearly, as you say, a couple of pills shy of the medicine cabinet (I love that btw). I imagine you want someone to help with rent at this point. Maybe you could post an ad? Interview them at a coffee house if you don't want her to know? You could even ask them the questions you posed to her, and see what the response is. Although, a dude might be a little worried about the gay one. :H

I've noticed the vast majority of us, have either some blues, or downright depression after stop drinking. It seems many of us who actually become depressed, have had a hx of depression. It sounds like you have a hx too. I don't know if it's when we quit drinking our neurotransmitters get agitated and bounce around like pop rocks: snap, crackle, and pop. Maybe, we don't have enough to begin with, and the booze depletes them more. Maybe both? There's certainly nothing wrong with doing something about it SP. Natural or otherwise. Some of us have and do use a combo of both. In my opinion, depression is another thing that may make getting control of alcohol dependence difficult.

Have you ever had your vitamin D levels checked? I know you live in WA, and you folks don't get as much sun as some of the rest of us.

[LadyLush]

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SP,

If it's vitamin D you lack come on down to Texas or as Murph says "Texico".

114 yesterday. I believe we are over 100 going on day 42 now.

7 Day Forecast
Friday - 108
Saturday - 106
Sunday - 105
Monday - 106
Tuesday - 105
Wednesday - 105

And then the cold front hits:
Thursday - 103

LL

(Hi red!)

[redhead77]

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Hi Luscious.

This ones even better SP. Ask her if you can pray away getting kicked out. When she appears confused, and answers maybe, tell her WRONG! Get packing.

[bleep]

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For sure Slippery - I second all these posts, and we all know how wise I am - it's time to hoof the roomie.

The last thing you need or want now is a negative drag on your zen, or some such shit. You can use these posts of yours here as legal proof that she is dragging your karma through the mud, if it comes to a legal battle. With us to back you up in court, you can't lose, so gather up her belongings now.

As Murph is so fond of saying, video would be nice...

[bleep]

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Ha Red, we x-posted! I can't believe I forgot that one.

I'm on my knees for you Slippery. It didn't work for me in other matters, but maybe...

[RudyB]

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what's hx (red)?

[RudyB]

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and pete, what's fml? and where's the update? we're here. where are you? how are you?!!

[SlipperyPete]

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Thanks everyone :l
Your posts definitely put a smile on my face today.

I'm feeling much better today. I was listening to a song called "Live Your Life," by the same guy who sang what's in my sig. These lyrics hit me:

"Everybody right here, what you need to do is be thankful for the life you got. Stop lookin at what you ain't got, and start being thankful for what you do got."

I get terribly depressed when I see where other people are at, and I feel so far behind. But then I looked at what I do have, and it's a lot, and I still have my whole life ahead of me. I just can't ever compare myself to others, especially not the ones who have it together enough only to make it seem like they have it together...

Murphyx;1158369 wrote: Why tf not? You've used ADs in the past, did any of them work? If yes, get tf back on them. If no, then try some others.
I'm pretty sure I've been on 90% of the ADs out there at some point. What I really needed was baclofen the whole time, so I don't really have any fond memories of them. The thing I don't like about ADs is how unnatural they feel. The only drug I've taken that feels natural is bac.

bleep;1158333 wrote: Can't you get rid of the roomie? She sounds like a PITA. If there are lease issues, I'm sure it's nothing a midnight piss or two wouldn't resolve amicably.

Sorry to hear that seems like it's turned to shit. I hate to say it, but have you considered going up a level? Has this been all at one level? If you've gone up through it and it hasn't helped, then going up again probably won't help it, but it's something to consider.
Sadly, I haven't dumped water on the floor in weeks. It's only happened 3 times, AFAIK. I have been playing around with my dose a bit. I went up from 120 to 160 for a few days, but my supply wouldn't sustain if I kept raising it.
RudyB;1158411 wrote:

i just looked into 5htp, and i don't think it's very expensive at all. if i remember correctly, it's about thirteen dollars a bottle. seems some of you here have had great success with it.

Rudy - glad to see you mosey on over to these here parts. I just went to the store and bought some 5-HTP, and it was actually only $12.99

Ne/Neva Eva;1158455 wrote:
Suddenly sober and then depressed is not unusual in recovery. Overcoming the burden of life on life's terms is something that we all have to face.
What do we know? Exercise. Best way to ward it off and the research shows (I know, but they matter to me) that it's as or more effective than ADs. Are you playing soccer?

I wish someone would've told me that life is tough! :H I'm not sure how many times I've heard that actually, however after having been living in my own little bubble for so long, I can finally see that people know what they're talking about.
And exercise is awesome. I always feel amazing coming out of the gym, and my soccer games are always my favorite time of the week. I wish I could play every day.

RudyB;1158595 wrote: pete! i was just posting on my thread and found myself once again referring to that book, 'healing without freud or prozac'. have you gotten it yet? i bet your stupid roommate would do a double take to see that lying about. well, if she's not TOTALLY stupid she would. anyway, to remind, it's full of inspiring ideas of what to do about the kinds of things you're going through. a really fucking good read!

thinking of you today. hope you're picking yourself up and dusting yourself off. go out and be in the world. romp around with some upbeat people. kick a ball. row a boat. chat up a hot gal in a nice car, impreza or not. feel good. make it a good day.

and please check in when you can. i'm always looking forward to reading your updates.

xo rudy ruI'm sure she would say some shit, but I don't care anymore. I looked it up on the library website, and they don't carry it. However, it's on my Amazon wish list for when I get employed.
And I think you're absolutely right. I really just need to go out and have some fun.

Bruunhilde;1158648 wrote:
Do you have any tryptophan or All-One powder? That can help if you don't want to buy 5-HTP. Also fish oil can help, you have to take 3-4 grams/day for ADD effects.

Give me your mailing address? I'll send some?Appreciate the offer, B, but I went out and got some 5-HTP today. Bac has already robbed me of my appetite, so I'm hoping the 5-htp doesn't make me completely unable to eat!

LadyLush;1158766 wrote: SP,

If it's vitamin D you lack come on down to Texas or as Murph says "Texico".

114 yesterday. I believe we are over 100 going on day 42 now.
I'd make a joke about Texas, but I was warned "don't mess with Texas." I read in the news that a football coach died because of the heat in TX. A coach!
redhead77;1158773 wrote: Hi Luscious.

This ones even better SP. Ask her if you can pray away getting kicked out. When she appears confused, and answers maybe, tell her WRONG! Get packing.

OMG that's awesome!! :H:HYou guys would be able to appreciate it, but I'm sure this would be the response I'd get (and have been getting constantly)
*blank look*...ugh...your sense of humor is so stupid!

bleep;1158775 wrote:
The last thing you need or want now is a negative drag on your zen, or some such shit. You can use these posts of yours here as legal proof that she is dragging your karma through the mud, if it comes to a legal battle. With us to back you up in court, you can't lose, so gather up her belongings now.

As Murph is so fond of saying, video would be nice...

I love it. I guess with this thread as legal evidence, I have free reign to piss all over her at night. Complete immunity!

[RudyB]

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pete, who's the guy in your sig, the one you didn't quote. (and have you listened to any of my songs, btw?)

ok, back to your post...

[RudyB]

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pete. hi! i still haven't read through your post, but i was listening to the following song as i began to. it's called 'hilo y aguja', and it's by -you guessed it- macaco. it means 'thread and needle'. here are the intro lyrics. below them is posted the you tube link. (aren't i getting good at this computer thing?!)

hilo y aguja

Ser?, ser?, ser?, se, lo que busque y lo que encuentre
y al salir de mi escondite no sabr? si fui o si vine
mientras griten las sirenas, un futuro incierto llega.

ok, pete, i know you of anyone can interpret those lyrics. but if not, here is my quick translation:

i will be, will be, will be, i know, that which i look for and find
and upon leaving my hiding places i won't know if i've gone or if i came
while the sirens scream, an uncertain future arrives.

is this not a very accurate description of what we're all going through?! (like i said, i'm going to start my own site of this nature, in spanish.) i could post these lyrics on just about any thread and be understood for their relevance and the common experience that they describe. ain't it cool?! seems each book i read and each song i listen to has just the best message possible embedded in its beautiful expression. this ain't no accident, folks!

Macaco - Hilo Y Aguja Lyrics

let me know what you think PELASE!

by accident, i found myself listening to the following song. well by golly! i think i've just found meself a new possibility in music. i'm off to explore it, and to read pete's post...

go, pete!

xoxoxoxox y con amor del corazon,
rudy b

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YVXNhz87bo&feature=related[/video]]‪Bajo el mismo sol‬‏ - YouTube

[RudyB]

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pete. poking my way through your post here. please pm your addy so i can send you that book!~ i mean right now, please.