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    #31
    Indiffrence or Resistance?

    I'm another one who has had anxiety since I was a kid, especially social anxiety but also general worrying tendencies. Later on in life the social thing caused loneliness, which caused depression. Then came the alcohol, since one thing it did reliably was WORK. I could not say the same for prescription medications I had tried, although most were antidepressants rather than benzodiazepines.

    I did find that benzos like Xanax and Valium helped my anxiety, although tolerance set in and reduced the efficacy of Xanax over time. I also now find that baclofen helps my anxiety, as did phenibut (a related but somewhat more hazardous drug) during experiments.

    In the end, I was drinking both for relief (of anxiety and especially depression) and for pleasure. I can't deny that I looked forward to alcohol's buzz, and even now still think about it despite not drinking for over a year. My use of a few other drugs may have kept me in the mental state of wanting a buzz or hit, whatever you will call it, long after I stopped drinking, although I am now finding a reduced desire to get high/drunk due to taking baclofen.

    I'm also considering naltrexone if I ever need another medication that addresses the buzz part of alcoholism/addiction.

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      #32
      Indiffrence or Resistance?

      gratitude;1139916 wrote: for those of you who had relief from anxiety because of BAC...
      at what dose did you find relief? what dose are you on now? did you continue to go up to alleviate cravings?
      great thread. I almost lost my sobriety a couple of days ago because of terrific anxiety. finally went away. grat.
      Hey Grat,

      I did a trial run with bac, before I was sure I was going to take it. I tried 5 mg QID for 3-4 days, I believe. I felt almost instant relief when I took it, even at 5 mg. I absolutely knew the drug was going to do well by me, for anxiety. I had a darn good idea, it was going to do well for my drinking too.
      This Princess Saved Herself

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        #33
        Indiffrence or Resistance?

        Love the game,

        So idiotic?

        Please see what I am seeing.....Ridiculous.
        The hardest arithmetic to master is that which enables us to count our blessings.

        *Don't look where you fall, look why you slipped*

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          #34
          Indiffrence or Resistance?

          Lushy, it looks like your thread has really caught the board's imagination; everyone is talking about anxiety now, how it's the cause of many people's alcoholism and how it can be treated by bac.

          Well done you for bringing this important subject to the fore.:l

          The unexamined life is not worth living

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            #35
            Indiffrence or Resistance?

            lushy and red,
            thanks for responding with doses for anxiety. I am not currently taking BAC. sober 4years through the usual methods... but kinda falling away from AA. still meditate, exercise religiously, isolate. not a fully integrated life but better than the hell I was living before.
            would like to try BAC to alleviate the sporadic crippling makes you want to drink anxiety. just grabbing doses from you folks of what has worked for you. thanks again.
            weeklong hike and then call dr. L.? it's time. grat

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              #36
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              LadyLush;1140438 wrote: Love the game,

              So idiotic?

              Please see what I am seeing.....Ridiculous.
              Luscious,

              Did I post something wrong? Other than my usual grammatical errors and the fact that I probably shouldn't have scored some (took that part out). This statement came right after my post. I'm beginning to develop a complex about posting here. I really only do it in a few places I consider safe already.

              This Princess Saved Herself

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                #37
                Indiffrence or Resistance?

                Red,

                Not at you my friend and I am so sorry. You know I believe I saw the relief of anxiety from the first 5 to 10mg's too. I wanted to say that but it sounded way too easy after all these years of fighting. I know 30 I definitely saw the results..

                Sorry that post was made for another aggravating thread I should have stayed away from; damn this Pisces personality of mine!

                All is well in LushLand

                Have a great weekend!
                LL:l
                The hardest arithmetic to master is that which enables us to count our blessings.

                *Don't look where you fall, look why you slipped*

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                  #38
                  Indiffrence or Resistance?

                  yeah, shout out to you, lushy, for a great thread. wonderful, really. i just love ya! that's all i got at the mo, but it's enough.

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                    #39
                    Indiffrence or Resistance?

                    Hey Grat, nice to see you around, and sorry to hear you are having a bad time of it at the moment. Give it a try - it seems to hit different people at different levels, the anxiety thing, and maybe you'll be lucky and hit it low. Can't hurt, is my thinking.

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                      #40
                      Indiffrence or Resistance?

                      Hi LL,

                      How are things going after the reunion?
                      Are you back on the wagon? It is my 2nd AL free day.

                      cheers,

                      Brian

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                        #41
                        Indiffrence or Resistance?

                        Hey Brian,

                        Think I got you on Paul's thread too!
                        Yes back to stringing days together as well. The depression sucks after drinking on Baclofen for me! I am sure guilt adds to that.
                        I personally would rather not drink because I do not believe I could actually moderate.
                        It is amazing though how Bac can lift me back up after a couple days sober. Baclofen is good with me like that. It is a miracle drug for me.
                        Let's keep going and have a sober weekend! Labor day is just around the corner! A day I have always spent out at the lake drinking, YIKES! I Have to get back on track!


                        LL:l
                        The hardest arithmetic to master is that which enables us to count our blessings.

                        *Don't look where you fall, look why you slipped*

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                          #42
                          Indiffrence or Resistance?

                          Hey LL,

                          I am glad to hear that you are in good mood too after a couple days of being sober.
                          I have the same feeling on L-Glutamine.
                          It looks like it works for me as Baclofen works for you.
                          I am also questioning that I could be moderate drinker after this weekend.
                          Though there was one thing that was pulling me toward drinking last weekend.
                          My birthday was earlier this month and I got a big bottle of Jose Cuervo from someone.
                          I actually had that bottle at home unopened for almost a week. Which is unheard of.
                          Also this was my first sober birthday in my adult life. These are baby steps, but they still worth to remember.
                          What was your longest abstinence on Bac?

                          Cheers,

                          Brian

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                            #43
                            Indiffrence or Resistance?

                            Brian,
                            Without a drink 2 weeks here and there. If we are talking staying sober, I can have a couple drinks and walk away. If I drink any more it sucks and I feel like crap the next day. It's just not fun like it use to be. I don't have a drop of alcohol in the house anymore.
                            Before Bac, wine had total control of me. I use to hit different stores so they wouldn't realize the lush I tried to hide from everyone including myself.
                            What I began to really hate about myself in the last couple years was how terribly mean and beligerent (sp?) I became. I hurt many people I love with words of venom. I saw on a church sign one time "hurt people hurt people"....how very, very, true.
                            There's hope now that I can get past all that and actually have a future without alcohol in it. Was it you or Pete that wrote if we told all the trouble we got in or caused with alcohol there would have to be an additional server involved (or something like that:-)?
                            I believe that's true for many of us.

                            Any way...YIPPEE, The Rangers just tied the game with the Angels! We are 6 games ahead of them in the division!!!
                            Gotta go watch the game - alcohol free and happy!

                            Talk atcha soon!

                            LL:l
                            The hardest arithmetic to master is that which enables us to count our blessings.

                            *Don't look where you fall, look why you slipped*

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                              #44
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                              Hi LL,

                              LadyLush;1165067 wrote: Brian,
                              Without a drink 2 weeks here and there. If we are talking staying sober, I can have a couple drinks and walk away. If I drink any more it sucks and I feel like crap the next day. It's just not fun like it use to be. I don't have a drop of alcohol in the house anymore.
                              Before Bac, wine had total control of me. I use to hit different stores so they wouldn't realize the lush I tried to hide from everyone including myself.
                              What I began to really hate about myself in the last couple years was how terribly mean and beligerent (sp?) I became. I hurt many people I love with words of venom. I saw on a church sign one time "hurt people hurt people"....how very, very, true.
                              There's hope now that I can get past all that and actually have a future without alcohol in it. Was it you or Pete that wrote if we told all the trouble we got in or caused with alcohol there would have to be an additional server involved (or something like that:-)?
                              I believe that's true for many of us.

                              Any way...YIPPEE, The Rangers just tied the game with the Angels! We are 6 games ahead of them in the division!!!
                              Gotta go watch the game - alcohol free and happy!

                              Talk atcha soon!

                              LL:l
                              The quoted text in red resonated with me so much. I was ashamed to go into the liquor store and buy my stuff everyday more than once, so they could think "here he goes again".
                              so I went to different places if I needed more. It is funny how similar feelings we all have
                              about alcoholism.

                              :goodjob:

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                                #45
                                Indiffrence or Resistance?

                                I too thought I was completely unique in those kinds of thoughts (OMG! what will the clerk THINK of me??!!) and behaviors (shopping different stores). LOL I used to regularly comment to complete strangers about the "big party we are having this weekend!" :H:H:H

                                What a shocker it was to find MWO and read posts and realize that we ALL think like that! Eventually it was a huge relief to realize that I am not alone in any of this. The insanity nor the recovery.

                                DG
                                Sobriety Date = 5/22/08
                                Nicotine Free Date = 2/27/07


                                One day at a time.

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