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    #31
    God help me I'm on a bender

    Thanks, JC! I had a moment of, "Oh, No!"
    Yay for her! (It amazes me how you peeps jump around from country to country like it's nothin'!)
    :l
    Ne

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      #32
      God help me I'm on a bender

      I am confused .... Is heal thyself and the cure for alcoholism the exact same book is that what you mean ne? I thought one was about naltrexone and one was about baclofen?? I was going to read before i went to my doctor tomorrow but instead i have just spent the entire day reading things on this site and forums posts. I have read some really good stuff, still confused about what i want my plan to be though.

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        #33
        God help me I'm on a bender

        oops. Heal Thyself and The End of My Addiction are the same books. Sorry 'bout that. After awhile they all sound the same don't they? :H

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          #34
          God help me I'm on a bender

          I believe it's also called "The Last Glass." All the same book. All worth reading. The Last Glass is the best title, imo.

          There are a few drugs out there with which to combat alcohol. Like Ne, I only tried baclofen, so I can't compare them. I will say that baclofen did the job, and it did it perfectly. I was a bit of an anomaly, and enjoyed my side effects for the most part. I had three fun-filled, trippy weeks, then indifference came along, and I've had 6 months of it so far. I think that in years to come, it will become THE treatment for alcoholism.

          Don't be afraid of the SE's. They are what they are, and none of them is as bad as a bad hangover, so are doable.

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            #35
            God help me I'm on a bender

            bleep;1137188 wrote:
            Don't be afraid of the SE's. They are what they are, and none of them is as bad as a bad hangover, so are doable.
            That's really good to know thank you.

            Ok i am really thinking i might try and get the bac. Did you guys have to do jobs that required you to be alert when you started?

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              #36
              God help me I'm on a bender

              I did, and do. I titrated like a loon, and still managed to work. Over the course of the three weeks, I took 5 days off, and if I look back, they coincided with big sessions the night before. Baclofen gives me fierce hangovers if I tie one on, and I tied a few beauties on on my way up. It makes the SE's much more fierce and real for me.

              Saying that, I looked quite stoned at times. I simply told people I was on medication that was affecting my eyes, and that it would pass, and left it at that. People are too polite to ask any questions, and not everyone gets this SE. Although I felt stoned, it didn't affect my decisions.

              If you are a surgeon or something like that, you'll have to come up with another plan though. A very slow titration, or a leave of absence or something. I think the best way to take baclofen is probably take a month off work and go balls-to-the-wall, but that's not always an option.

              Now, after indifference, I am a new man, and achieving more at work in a day than I did in a month.

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                #37
                God help me I'm on a bender

                Hi, Jo.

                I have Dr A's book--The End Of My Addiction. If you send me a pm, I'll send it to you. i got it on ebay--and it is brans new. I read it very quickly, and am sure you'll be able to, as well!

                TDN
                "One day at a time."

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                  #38
                  God help me I'm on a bender

                  jo, you are contributing more than you can imagine. firstly, to yourself, which is the best way to get anywhere, including a feeling of making a more 'active' contribution to these threads. but your questions are also probably in many folks heads, including those who don't feel to post. and their answers are definitely widely helpful.

                  i took campral for a few months. it was too subtle for me, as i wasn't fully committed to losing al. nal made me angry (only when i took it, which i think was twice). as i understand it, campral works on the cravings in your brain, and works for about 50% of the people who use it. nal has been very helpful to some, like uk blonde. you could check out her thread for tons of answers. btw, i have a full bottle fo campral that's still good and i am not planning to use it. can't remember if you said whether you have insurance or not (are you the one who doesn't?), but i'd be happy to send it to you if you pm me. i hear it's quite expensive.

                  good luck. keep inquiring.

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                    #39
                    God help me I'm on a bender

                    yeah, the job factor is a doozie. but it's good to have one, right? i teach middle schoolers, so the stoned and sleepy i often felt twd the end of the year fit right in w my students' state of being. and the administration is very hands-off (give thanks!), so i never got in trouble for being on drugs at work. in fact, i found a dark closet in the library where i'd go and steal long naps which were incredibly restorative.

                    like the good people tell it, the se's are managable if you're thoughtful about your process of titration. and nothing is as bad as a throbbing hangover. at least the bac doesn't give you remorse and self-loathing. quite the opposite, actually.

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