Dear Baclofiends and Nal'ers

[Murphyx]

Dear Baclofiends and Nal'ers

Rightyo Tip, that told me.

[KatieSmiles]

Dear Baclofiends and Nal'ers

Yep Tip I agree. Taking up valuable real estate....I like that.

I guess in a way, that is what I am trying to say by posting this thread, I should have put more thought into it but I wanted to prompt discussion and maybe come up with a solution. The meds forum is inundated with Bac chat, not that it's a bad thing, BUT and its a big BUT the chatter dominates and some really good information/incite on Meds other than Baclofen gets lost in all of the personal threads, even Bac info gets lost in the shuffle. I have one on my Nal journey and I try to keep it always on topic and do my chattering elsewhere.

It's too bad MWO dioesn't have a weekly progress forum then all could post away to their hearts content about their progress and leave the Meds forum for ON TOPIC discussion/information about Meds such as SE's, dosing, methods, what works and what doesn't etc. I see lots of questions left unanswered because of the chatter moving to the forefront and the question left behind in the dust.

[SlipperyPete]

Dear Baclofiends and Nal'ers

tiptronic_ct;1140255 wrote: You can get the same level of support, or let your voice be heard as effectively in a more communal environment than what we're experiencing here. We're all special and unique. But not that special.

Hey now! My mom says I'm special!

Kidding, I think a consolidated thread would be great. Only problem I could see with that is that people's individual issues that need addressing might get lost in the fray.

[RudyB]

Dear Baclofiends and Nal'ers

wow, trip. tell it like it is in your world! (that's what we do here, isn't it?)

i think there's plenty of real estate here. and you can avoid all the noise if you want to. just don't read it. fad schmad. if it's helping people, why knock it? if it's not helping you, don't read it. we're maybe not all special in your mind, but we each have a path to walk and for some of us that includes hashing shit out. you're a bit of a grump, aren't you?

i'd say this is a pretty wonderful communal environment, much more effective for me than any couch or traditional recovery scene i've been to, and there have been many. i can't think of a more positive source for people like me, and there are many of those, too. why knock it?

yeah, we'll carry on. but your emoticon should be a big frown with its tongue out. that would be more honest.

[RudyB]

Dear Baclofiends and Nal'ers

individual threads are for whatever chatter needs expressing. people get a lot out of sharing and joking and filling thier lives with words. avoid the threads that don't appeal, and leave them be. consolidated threads are places to escape that. loOp has a good one going on bac. why not start one on nal, and then you can avoid all the chatter you find to be cluttersome?

i get your points, but rather than complain about what is, create what is missing. be a part of the solution.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Dear Baclofiends and Nal'ers

KatieSmiles;1140313 wrote:
...dioesn't have a weekly progress forum then all could post away to their hearts content about their progress
Someone could start one.

KatieSmiles;1140313 wrote: leave the Meds forum for ON TOPIC discussion/information about Meds such as SE's, dosing, methods, what works and what doesn't etc.

Bac has consolidated threads for those things where we can direct people if it comes up in their bloggy threads.
Plus I feel like much of what we discuss in the bloggy type threads is relevant and on topic. Alcoholism is a many-headed beast.
My response to this is not in the least defensive, ftr. As a devout blogger for time out of mind, I think I am in a good position to say it's not very effective, in terms of communication. About anything.
I/We have tried to get consolidated things started. The only way it's going to work is if people get on board. It doesn't seem to work very well, yet. But it may and probably will.

That said, the only way Nal or any of the other meds are going to get attention that they are not getting now, is if there are as many people interested in those options as there are in say, baclofen, for instance.

KatieSmiles;1140313 wrote: I see lots of questions left unanswered because of the chatter moving to the forefront and the question left behind in the dust.

I hope we're all doing our best to make sure that unanswered questions get answered and that new people are welcomed! It can be a daunting thing to keep up with for sure. That's one of the reasons that there have been new threads started to try to keep up with the introductions. Also why the Consolidated Thread, that carries all the information relevant to the science/thought behind baclofen is so important to anyone thinking about that as an option. (Thanks again, Lo0p. Much appreciated.)

Maybe someone can grab the information off of the TSM website and bring it over? I know that I just go there when I want to find out something about TSM or Naltrexone, but it could certainly be useful here as well. And there have been many, many times that I have wished that we had info at-hand about the other options, because I would love to encourage people read about those before they commit to them. That's just based on my own research, though, and I didn't find it here.

I'm not really sure what the whole point of the exercise is, though. If a thread gets interest it gets read and responded to. It's a popularity contest. Not of my making, or yours for that matter. If the bac-bloggers stopped bac-blogging there wouldn't be more space for anything else, there would just be the same tired things on page 1. Right?

Remember, I am a proponent of anything that works, actively avoid participating where I'm likely to be misunderstood, and support EOM (equal opportunity in meds.) The rest? well...just sayin.

[Ne/Neva Eva]

Dear Baclofiends and Nal'ers

hmmm. taking up valuable real estate from what?
The sudden insurgence of people interested in ... say, aspirin?

Someone recently started a thread about a medication with which I was unfamiliar. Apparently a lot of people are unfamiliar with it. Not many responded. It went away. The person will have to find answers elsewhere. It's not sad. We can't know everything. Google Knows Everything.

Threads do not take up limited real estate. That's just silly. Funny, but silly.

They don't get lost or deleted, either. (except when someone does that, ahem! you know who you are!!!) It is all here.

If we extrapolate the suggestion that all meds should have equal real estate should I start my morning bumping threads that haven't had any update? Or respond to the ones where a person has posted something?

just askin'